Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:42:33 -0500
Reply-To: DSTEVENS <DSTEVENS@LAUBACH.ORG>
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From: DSTEVENS <DSTEVENS@LAUBACH.ORG>
Subject: Re: [VWDIESEL] Slow starter(s)...
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just a thought david would be to inspect the starter pilot bushing? they
do eventually wear ( some don't diesel oil/fuel is slick) and some may
collect the dust off the clutch(high friction) but in my case a
previously bad starter armeture had mauled the small amount of brass.
Just a thought that is often overlooked, also check the resistance in
the Key circut to the starter solenoid as excessive current draw (
prolonged cranking) will muss up contacts over time. To check is to find
the wire to the solenoid from the key and give it live + ( be in
neutral) and see if its any faster if not then ? if so check resistance
in ign switch.
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>From: David Raistrick[SMTP:xi8940@FREENET.TLH.FL.US]
>Sent: Saturday, November 21, 1998 5:21 PM
>To: VWDIESEL@PAS-NT.PAS.ROCHESTER.EDU
>Subject: [VWDIESEL] Slow starter(s)...
>
>Yep. Me again. First, a thanks for all ya'lls help so far, I dont often
>get a chance to respond to your help...*sigh*
>
>84 Jetta TD, as usual. Now that I've gotten to work with this car, I'm
>finding lots of things that prolly caused the no-start-when-hot bit.
>Looks like we have at least one externally leaking injector. Leaks from
>between the injector halves.
>
>Also, during almost all circumstances, the bastard is just slow turning
>over. Relativly new battery (Yeah, the oversized big'n our dealer decided
>"fits fine"...pletty of CCA and CA though..) (battery is probably about
>6-8 months old at the most..)
>
>We presently have our 3rd starter in it. (the first, though it appeared to
>be a recently replaced Bosch NEW unit, was pulled because of this same
>problem...except to the extent the car just wouldnt turn over much of the
>time, cold, hot, whatever. Just a vrp, and thats it..) Pulled the
>starter out of my truck, and out in. Worked better. Then it started
>having all this hot-start trouble.
>
>So now I pulled the starter off my brothers Rabbit (all diesel, btw..),
>since I know damn well that starter is good. Same thing. Exactly.
>
>So. Not the starter. Replaced the positive lead, as well as the
>3-position ground cable. (Body, tranny hanger thingie, and strut tower)
>
>No change. I have NOT yet put another battery in it, as this battery
>checks out fine. (Presently has 12.582 volts in it...)
>
>So. I'm looking for ideas here...If anyone has any, please let me
>know...(well, ideas in re: to the slow to turn over..I know how to fix the
>injectors...39 bucks eahc..*sigh*)
>
>thanks...david
>
>(oh. one other thing. What would cause one of these things to be slow to
>return to idle? Tap the throttle, it revs fine, take your foot off, it
>takes 2-3 seconds to return to idle...or at least, longer than I recall
>them ever taking...and it's NOT the running-on-due-to-blowby problem,
>either..that's my brothers car...and why he doestn drive it...:)
>
>TIA...d
>
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