Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:20:54 -0800
Reply-To:     Doug Jones <duge4wd@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@vanagon.com>
From:         Doug Jones <duge4wd@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Lurkers and other species of list members
Comments: To: vanagon@VANAGON.COM

Budd Premack wrote:

<snip>>>>However, an issue that I have not seen raised here is whether there
are any other quasi-official designations.  Do we have any List Gurus,
Honored Contributors, Venerable Vanagoneers, or are we all simply Members?
Do we have a hierarchy?  Should we? If so, how does one achieve the various
levels?  Who should make these critical decisions?  Do we need rules or
bylaws?  Should we have elected delegates or hold a town meeting?  How is
the ruling class to be held responsible to the masses?  What about
discipline?  Should there be virtual police? Fellow Listees, what are your
thoughts? <<<<

Hello, my name is Douglas Jones, and I was a lurker (ala AA). Although, I
have posted previous to this message; I felt moved to respond. I, in fact,
do not own a vanagon<<gasps from the crowd>>I am hear simply to learn. I
have owned many VWs, presently I own two '74 Supers. I look to gain a higher
knowledge of the mighty Syncro. I wish to obtain it's drivetrain and train
it to serve my purpose. I intend to harness it to the rightful power of the
aircooled engine<<more gasps>>and bring my beetles into a new era! But,
Hierarchies? Me hopes you jest! I hoped the list could become the purer form
of communism, ala Rousseau; Where we are all equal, and equally share the
knowledge of our collective VW experiences.

Per wrote:
Of course, Syncro drivers, like me, are Syncronauts,     if you have a
Westy, maybe a Westfalian,     a Multivan owner, maybe a
multi-personality???     Weekender owner, the guy that is always looking for
the weekend,      Adventurewagen, adventure-sick owners,     D'cab, carry
both family and loot,       S'cab, carry loot only (maybe Santa would want a
Audi 5 powered S'cab???),      16", dont start that little brain of yours,
As you can see, The list is endless. What would be on top? Well, what about
a Syncro 16" Westy Adwenturewagen Doublecab with an Audi 5T, SA built and
goldplated????

Per seeks not to establish hierarchies, or class structures; but, he seeks
to scientifically classify the Vanagon Genus. To identify it's species and
subspecies, and perhaps to establish lineage back to the great original Type
2. Vanagon phylogeny is a noble pursuit.

My friends, I implore you. Do not go down the road that will give us a
"chain of command," instead let us seek to find a higher form of
association. The family Vanagon within the greater Volkswagen universe.

Transmission ended, drugs have worn off.
Doug