Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:32:25 -0800
Reply-To: Davidson <wdavidson@JPS.NET>
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From: Davidson <wdavidson@JPS.NET>
Subject: Re: square headlight upgrade kit
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Helmut,
I'm really not quite sure what you are trying to say. It seems that there is
a small translation problem for me.
In any case, our idea is that we are NOT happy with the standard square
H4's. That's why I referred to this as an upgrade: because Randy's solution
is supposed to be better than the standard square H4's that came with our
late model vanagons. As for price, there is no doubt in my mind that the
cost of the parts that Randy is offering will be substantially less than
what he is proposing to charge. Since he has already put in the engineering
time and will put in more fabrication time, I would expect him to make a
profit. Take your van to a good mechanic here in the US and you will pay
from $50 to $75 or more per hour. I'm sure it would take me much more than 4
hours to do the research and get all the materials together and do the
fabrication of this upgrade kit. If it's as good as Randy claims (and we are
going to check that out), then I think it is worth the $200 to me.
Thanks for you input.
Bill
90 Westy Syncro
Lake Tahoe
-----Original Message-----
From: Helmut Zeidler <Helmut_Zeidler@NOTESMAIL.NOKIA.COM>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: square headlight upgrade kit
>Mmh, I got no details on that upgrade kit. But just to
>compare prices:
>
>H1 5x7 High Beams Hella 57.50 DM = 35.00 USD
>H1 5x7 High Beams Bosch 63.00 DM = 38.00 USD
>H4 5x7 Dual Beams Hella 57.50 DM = 35.00 USD
>DE 5x7 Low Beams Bosch 135.00 DM = 81.00 USD
>DE 5x7 Foglights Bosch 245.00 DM = 147.00 USD
>
>Today I checked the sizes, if the 5x7 will fit into the
>Vanagon framework and rectangular grille. The Bosch DE
>will fit into the outer corners, as the H1 will fit into
>the inner position to replace the standard H1 high beams.
>About a half to one inch have to be cut at the inner edges
>of the square headlights grille. But there are still
>a one inch gap in top and bottom of the 5x7 headlights,
>which could be closed by a modified Audi 5000 headlight
>mask.
>
>I don't think, that replacing the standard DOT square
>headlights against the 5x7 H4 will improve the lights
>more than replacing against the standard Vanagon H4
>squares, which are bigger. The Vanagon standard H4s you
>will get for a price of 192.00 DM (115.00 USD) each. No
>modifications or new brackets are needed in this case.
>
>Regards
>Helmut
>'80 Vanagaudi
>
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