Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:46:19 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
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From: Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
Subject: Re: square headlight upgrade kit
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From what I've been able to find out from reputable importers: the US
Vanagon square high-beam H4's <underline>ARE THE SAME AS THE EUROPEAN
ONES</underline>!!!! What is different are the rectanglar US high/low
beams (which really suck).
Cheers,
MJS
At 07:32 PM 1/10/99 -0800, Davidson wrote:
>Helmut,
>I'm really not quite sure what you are trying to say. It seems that
there is
>a small translation problem for me.
>In any case, our idea is that we are NOT happy with the standard
square
>H4's. That's why I referred to this as an upgrade: because Randy's
solution
>is supposed to be better than the standard square H4's that came with
our
>late model vanagons. As for price, there is no doubt in my mind that
the
>cost of the parts that Randy is offering will be substantially less
than
>what he is proposing to charge. Since he has already put in the
engineering
>time and will put in more fabrication time, I would expect him to make
a
>profit. Take your van to a good mechanic here in the US and you will
pay
>from $50 to $75 or more per hour. I'm sure it would take me much more
than 4
>hours to do the research and get all the materials together and do the
>fabrication of this upgrade kit. If it's as good as Randy claims (and we
are
>going to check that out), then I think it is worth the $200 to me.
>Thanks for you input.
>Bill
>90 Westy Syncro
>Lake Tahoe
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Helmut Zeidler <<Helmut_Zeidler@NOTESMAIL.NOKIA.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 2:41 PM
>Subject: Re: square headlight upgrade kit
>
>
>>Mmh, I got no details on that upgrade kit. But just to
>>compare prices:
>>
>>H1 5x7 High Beams Hella 57.50 DM = 35.00 USD
>>H1 5x7 High Beams Bosch 63.00 DM = 38.00 USD
>>H4 5x7 Dual Beams Hella 57.50 DM = 35.00 USD
>>DE 5x7 Low Beams Bosch 135.00 DM = 81.00 USD
>>DE 5x7 Foglights Bosch 245.00 DM = 147.00 USD
>>
>>Today I checked the sizes, if the 5x7 will fit into the
>>Vanagon framework and rectangular grille. The Bosch DE
>>will fit into the outer corners, as the H1 will fit into
>>the inner position to replace the standard H1 high beams.
>>About a half to one inch have to be cut at the inner edges
>>of the square headlights grille. But there are still
>>a one inch gap in top and bottom of the 5x7 headlights,
>>which could be closed by a modified Audi 5000 headlight
>>mask.
>>
>>I don't think, that replacing the standard DOT square
>>headlights against the 5x7 H4 will improve the lights
>>more than replacing against the standard Vanagon H4
>>squares, which are bigger. The Vanagon standard H4s you
>>will get for a price of 192.00 DM (115.00 USD) each. No
>>modifications or new brackets are needed in this case.
>>
>>Regards
>>Helmut
>>'80 Vanagaudi
>>
>
<bold>
Michael J. Sullivan
</bold><italic>Director of Catalog Design
Open Market, Inc.
</italic>
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