Date:         Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:41:01 -0800
Reply-To:     Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Subject:      Re: Bus Depot SPERM, again!
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Volks... Please....

"It was also self-serving, profit motivated, free advertising from a vendor
who has actually threatened a list member with a legal action for
criticizing his mis-use of the list.  As a vendor, you have no right to
criticize anyone for any opinion expressed here regarding spam."

This thread is getting out of hand. It sounds like anger and blame and
whining.
And it is becoming destructive to our good will to each other. After all, we
are here to learn and the have fun aren't we? Did we join this list to bitch
at each other? Of course not. So let's show each other a little civility and
respect.

Is ANYONE not here on this list for some type of gain? If you like cheaper
parts you are here for gain. If you want to learn you are here for gain. If
you are here to help others you are here to gain because that is what you
enjoy. If you are here just for the fun of it you are here to gain. I don't
think our motives are all that different from Ron's or any of the vendors.
We are all here to profit from this list. So let's be nice to each other
okay?

Is this question of how vendors on the list should act important enough to
stop us from what we came to this list for? If so, there is no need to
attack vendors or anyone else. There are simple and civil solutions. Like:
Let's ask the list administrator to decide. Or.....
Let's take a vote.

I suggest people stop, count to ten, take a few deep breaths, take a walk in
the woods, think about how you would like someone else to speak to you, and
scratch the dog's belly before you post a response to these hot topics.
Thanks for listening....
Bill
90 Westy Syncro
Lake Tahoe
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven X. Schwenk <SXS@Concentric.net>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPERM, again!


>Date:    Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:46:33 -0500
>From:    The Bus Depot <ron@NETCARRIER.COM>
>Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again!
>
>Tim is, unfortunately, misinformed. <snip>
>My post directly responded to a question about whether there
>was a
>cheaper-than-dealer source for genuine oil filters.  It was
>accurate,
>informative, appropriate, and brief.  None of these could be
>said about
>Tim's response.
>
>- Ron Salmon
> The Bus Depot
> http://www.busdepot.com
>
>It was also self-serving, profit motivated, free advertising
>from a vendor who has actually threatened a list member with
>a legal action for criticizing his mis-use of the list.  As
>a vendor, you have no right to criticize anyone for any
>opinion expressed here regarding spam.  Do an archive search
>on bus depot anybody and then tell me how much it would cost
>to target 800 narrowly targeted customers so
>frequently...and then tell me what this enterprize has
>returned to the list...a $20 contribution last year or
>something....not much!
>Nothing personal, Ron.  Take a PR course or something.
>Don't trash listmembers, please.
>steve
>