Date:         Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:20:43 -0800
Reply-To:     Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
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From:         Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Subject:      Fw:      Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!
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Sorry to re-post these 3 proposed 'rules', but I just wanted to ask:
As a basic starting point, is there anyone who could not agree with these
rules as a solution to our vendor controversy?
Thanks
Bill
90 Westy Syncro
Lake Tahoe
-----Original Message-----
From: Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!


>In my experience most rules just create more problems. So I suggest we keep
>it simple....
>1.    Make Saturday the Vendor Specials day.
>2.    The other 6 days Vendors may post freely to answer specific questions
>that have been posted to the list about products. Vendors are encouraged to
>include more education than just price and availability.
>3.    If you feel the need to complain, do it nicely by pmail to the
>offender. If they continue, then file a complaint with the list
>administrator. (The list administrator may elect to have complaints handled
>by a committee.) Don't post complaints to the list.
>Bill
>90 Westy Syncro
>Lake Tahoe
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 10:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!
>
>
>>Dear Readers:
>>
>>I suggest the following solutions for your consideration:
>>
>>1.    Commercial enterprises must incorporate the word "advert" as the
very
>>first word in the subject line of each ad;
>>
>>2.    Seek cooperation from commercial advertisers to not make multiple
>>promotions on the same day, and to group all their promotions into one
>>message per enterprise per day;
>>
>>3.    Do not discourage commercial enterprises from responding with
answers
>>to Listee's postings where that response also carries technical
information
>>that the individual list poster may find useful, or is generally
>informative
>>to the other potential readers, even if the commercial enterprise also may
>>benefit;
>>
>>4. Listee's are to use the list administrator's mailbox as a destination
>for
>>all complaints regarding commercial vendors use of, or alleged abuse of
the
>>list.
>>
>>5.    Form a committee of list members, who can act as independant
>>arbitrators of the above point #5, in the case of "serious" disputes. The
>>committee will not have legal responsibility, just the trust and good-will
>>of all list participants.
>>
>>6. Reporting to the list of the findings of said committee, including
>>statistics, on a "regular basis".
>>
>>Marshall Ruskin
>>84 Westy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
>>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 11:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: Bus Depot SPAM, again! - Note from the List Admin!
>>
>>
>>>List members -
>>>
>>>After reading most of the follow up posts to Tim's comment, I must admit
>>>there is almost an even split amongst people who are for vendor
>>>"advertising" as there are people who are against vendor "advertising".
>>>We'll personally I think, at TIMES there is too much advertising on the
>>>list.  On the other hand, I would hate to see it totally leave the list
as
>>>Ron, Ken and others (including myself) do provide the list with valuable
>>>information, tips and can offer a lot of advice to the less knowledgeable
>>>list members.  The occasional advertisement isn't totally out of line as
I
>>>am sure most of us will agree.
>>>
>>>So this leaves suggestions on what we should do.  I don't want to dictate
>>>what goes on this list because it isn't my list - I like to consider
>myself
>>>as a referee of sorts.  I guess we have the following options:
>>>
>>>- ban advertising
>>>- limit OUTRIGHT adverting to ( for example) Saturdays and Mondays
>>>- leave things as it
>>>
>>>I am quite interested personally in the outcome of this because I have my
>>>own business that deals with Volkswagen parts and accessories.  I have
>kept
>>>my business activities to a minimum in order not to conflict with my
>duties
>>>as a list administrator.
>>>
>>>As always I am open to comments or suggestions both openly or via pmail.
>>>
>>>David Marshall - vangon list administrator
>>>David's Volkswagen Home Page - david@volkswagen.org
>>>Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning - sales@volkswagen.org
>>>
>>
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