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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:39:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Joseph Liasse <jliasse@TOAST.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joseph Liasse <jliasse@TOAST.NET>
Subject:      Re: Need info on head leak.
Comments: To: Peter Noto <peter_noto@BIGFOOT.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <199902160554.FAA101132@out5.ibm.net>
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You have a fatal problem. Weather or not it is immideatly fatal is entirely up to the leak. It may stay as is for the whole 3000 miles, in which case you may make it if you watch the coolant level closly OR the dam may bust wide open in the middle if nowhere, in which case you will be paying for repairs (assuming the mechanic in "nowhere" can do it), AND motel rooms, AND a tow, AND exta meals, AND Lord knows what else. There being no way to tell just when the dam will bust wide open it is a question of how lucky you feel. You may try some of these "stop leak" products I trust NONE of them. DO THE REPAIRS NOW! Or if you absolutely cannot due to your schedual, at least BUY THE PARTS NOW and take them with you so Irving the mechanic at the "Nowhere" corner filling station will have them if disaster strikes. The good news is that, if you decide to do the repairs now they will not take more than a couple of days of dedicated work. It is a big job but not all that complex. I did mine and I assure you I am NO mechanic. Step one: Get a Bentley.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Peter Noto Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 11:45 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject:

Hi all,

I'm new to the list and vanagons in general. I just bought a 86 westy with 82,000 on her. Of course I had to find this list and learn about the head gasket problems after I plopped down my $.

I've read all the info under the problems section of the site and I know I have the ability to swap out heads if I have to.

I bought the van because I am moving from the Florida Keys to San Francisco, and needed transportation that could get me, the dog and all my junk to the west coast.

The van runs great, and always well within the center of the temp gauge after worm up. I have had it for about 3 weeks. I checked the cooling fluid after reading about the head gasket problem last week. The fluid was about 3/4 of an inch bellow minimum. I was in a hurry and at a gas station which wanted $10 for a very small bottle of anti-freeze so i topped it off to just below the maximum line with water. Within a day i started to notice a sickening sweet smell when I got out of the van after a drive which got the van to mid temp gauge reading (I make a lot of very small trips, I live on an island).

At first I thought it might be burning out the clutch or something, but after some sniffing around I found a wet spot on the top of the forward left cylinder right at the seal of the head. I ran the van until it warmed up an left it idol. I could see a very small amount of fluid escaping at this point and cooking off, hence the sick sweet smell.

Now obviously I have a problem, my main question is this. Is it fatal and if so, is it immediately fatal? I need to move soon and I want to know if I can make this 3,000 mile drive without killing my engine. The van does not run hot, if I leave it to idol after a good hard run, it runs with the needle just about above the bulb of the warning light, if I am driving any speed, it stays pegged dead center of the heat gauge. It does not leak any fluid parked with the engine off. I am wondering if the addition of water lowered the boiling point of the coolant fluid, allowing it to boil and create steam pressure forcing the leak?

Any thoughts, comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Peter Noto Westy 86 peter_noto@bigfoot.com 305-292-1484


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