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Date:         Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:52:03 -0500
Reply-To:     Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
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From:         Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
Subject:      Re: LINUX will double gerry's speed
In-Reply-To:  <001001be59d2$a5e2c8e0$4775b9d1@coyote.Andromedia.com>
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Dear List,

Ron has a VERY good point. It won't do if the setup/maintenance of any mail system is any more difficult than it already is. What needs to be done is to totally automate the operation/maintenance/updating/etc. of the mail server. If this can be done with NT (and get good performance/reliability) and it is cheap then sure, NT is fine. However if it cannot, and if it can be done more easily in Linux (and get good performance/reliability) and it is cheap (which it is) then, fine, Linux should be considered.

The key point here is that it is not enough to talk about performance/reliability/scalability/Bill-bashing without someone taking the bull by the horns, "owning" the solution, and then implementing/documenting it so that anyone (even a brain dead moron) could host our mail server.

All I was trying to interject was <underline>that throwing hardware at the problem is not necessarily the only way nor the better way to get better performance/reliability</underline>.

And if no one is willing to step up to the plate and create a "brain-dead-simple" Linux solution for our needs then all bets are off -- we are stuck with NT 'cause that't what everyone already knows. A proof of concept would all that would be required for now. Any takers?

Cheers,

MJS

At 09:34 AM 2/16/99 -0800, Ron Lussier wrote:

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<excerpt><bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger>Though I have a very high opinion of Michael, I have to partially disagree with him on this issue.

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<bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger>In my opinion, we should use the operating system with which David Marshall is most familiar. While I agree that NT is fairly unstable, we've (mostly) solved the problem on vanagon.com by having a scheduled job reboot the machine at 3am every two days. (Microsoft admits that NT needs this, and I for one hope they get broken up. End of editorial.)

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<bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger>If David Marshall is most comfortable with NT, then we should use NT. If he's comfortable with Linux, then we should use that. One thing that we *should* keep in mind is that we own ListServ for NT, and ListServ *is* more robust than MajorDomo.

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<bold><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><bigger>Coyote

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Michael J. Sullivan

</bold><italic>Director of Catalog Design

Open Market, Inc.

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