Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:40:41 -0800
Reply-To: Steve <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
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From: Steve <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
Subject: Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass)
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I put the foil-covered buble wrap insulation in my doors. It absorbs nothing
and was designed for sheet meytal building insulation...among other apps. Water
is a problem in the front doors. Even new window seals do not stop the moisture
from entering when i lower a wet front window. Once when I opened the door
panels to find it quite wet in there. I don't see any rust inside my doors,
though...
steve
Davidson wrote:
> Well, I can tell you that neither of the front doors or the slider door have
> insulation on my 90 Westy Syncro. Unless the P.O. took it out, I think that
> is the way it came stock.
> And I think there is a reason that they didn't put insulation in the doors
> (the front two anyway).
>
> I believe they expected water to get inside the two front doors through the
> widow seals. That's why there is a plastic sheet between the door and the
> decorative panels (to keep them from deteriorating from moisture). Also I
> have noted that there is a drain hole in the bottom part of the wing window
> seal. This hole drains water from the seal channel to the inside of the door
> where it falls to the bottom of the door and drains out a hole in the bottom
> of the door directly opposite the 'foot well'.
>
> What I'm thinking is that if you put insulation inside these doors, the
> insulation will trap water in there, and the inside of the door will take
> longer to dry. This would cause rust problems from the inside out. So I
> wouldn't be inclined to insulate either of the front doors. I haven't looked
> at the inside of the slider door as closely, but it does have a sheet of
> plastic protecting the door panel (I think). Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
> Bill
> 90 Westy Syncro
> Lake Tahoe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William W. Barker <wbarker@NOTES.CC.BELLCORE.COM>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass)
>
> >It's nothing to do with politics, BOB.
> >
> >Even the fiberglass manufacturers advise that anyone
> >installing their product should wear a dust mask.
> >(regardless of the size of the fibers - dust bad)
> >
> >The thought is, that the huge amount of wind infiltration in a van,
> >road vibration etc. might keep a nice even stream of the fiberglass
> >particles flying about. This might not be ideal. Even if you as an adult
> >are willing to deal with it, considering the number of young children
> >that ride around in our vans it's probably worth a little consideration.
> >
> >One could also check with VW to see what they used.
> >They may have used a type of fiberglass (or some other form of insulation)
> >that's a bit more solid than the type used in the home.
> >Giving Ownes Corning a call to get some advise on vehicle insulation
> >would be another good option.
> >
> >That's it dude.
> >
> >- Wil Barker
> >'85 Westy GL
> >New Brunswick, NJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Robert A. Alexander" <satcong@vol.com> on 03/01/99 07:13:50 PM
> >
> >To: William W. Barker/Bellcore
> >cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Subject: Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Will - Are we about to get a "politically correct" lecture on how
> >fiberglas insulation causes lung cancer??? Please don't. It can't.
> >Fibres ain't small enough, dude, plus it's inert.
> >
> >BOB
> >
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