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Date:         Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:40:06 -0800
Reply-To:     Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Davidson <wdavidson@THEGRID.NET>
Subject:      Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass)
Comments: To: "William W. Barker" <wbarker@NOTES.CC.BELLCORE.COM>
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Well, I can tell you that neither of the front doors or the slider door have insulation on my 90 Westy Syncro. Unless the P.O. took it out, I think that is the way it came stock. And I think there is a reason that they didn't put insulation in the doors (the front two anyway).

I believe they expected water to get inside the two front doors through the widow seals. That's why there is a plastic sheet between the door and the decorative panels (to keep them from deteriorating from moisture). Also I have noted that there is a drain hole in the bottom part of the wing window seal. This hole drains water from the seal channel to the inside of the door where it falls to the bottom of the door and drains out a hole in the bottom of the door directly opposite the 'foot well'.

What I'm thinking is that if you put insulation inside these doors, the insulation will trap water in there, and the inside of the door will take longer to dry. This would cause rust problems from the inside out. So I wouldn't be inclined to insulate either of the front doors. I haven't looked at the inside of the slider door as closely, but it does have a sheet of plastic protecting the door panel (I think). Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Bill 90 Westy Syncro Lake Tahoe -----Original Message----- From: William W. Barker <wbarker@NOTES.CC.BELLCORE.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Date: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass)

>It's nothing to do with politics, BOB. > >Even the fiberglass manufacturers advise that anyone >installing their product should wear a dust mask. >(regardless of the size of the fibers - dust bad) > >The thought is, that the huge amount of wind infiltration in a van, >road vibration etc. might keep a nice even stream of the fiberglass >particles flying about. This might not be ideal. Even if you as an adult >are willing to deal with it, considering the number of young children >that ride around in our vans it's probably worth a little consideration. > >One could also check with VW to see what they used. >They may have used a type of fiberglass (or some other form of insulation) >that's a bit more solid than the type used in the home. >Giving Ownes Corning a call to get some advise on vehicle insulation >would be another good option. > >That's it dude. > >- Wil Barker >'85 Westy GL >New Brunswick, NJ > > > > > > >"Robert A. Alexander" <satcong@vol.com> on 03/01/99 07:13:50 PM > >To: William W. Barker/Bellcore >cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Road Noise (Don't use fiberglass) > > > > >Will - Are we about to get a "politically correct" lecture on how >fiberglas insulation causes lung cancer??? Please don't. It can't. >Fibres ain't small enough, dude, plus it's inert. > >BOB >


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