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Date:         Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:13:04 EST
Reply-To:     Jwilli941@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Todd Hill <Jwilli941@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: shifting from 1 to 2- reply
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cdcaston@NNI.COM writes:

<< From reading your post regarding the grindy tranny (moving from 1st to second) that's worse when cold, should a rebuilt trans with "new synchros" do this? >>

Using a broad paintbrush here........

Depends on the brand of syncros that were used and some other factors. I generally use Diehl brand syncros in my Type I and later Type II gearboxes. They are from Brazil but have a high quality control and have never given me a problem. I did look at a set of syncros from them for a Vanagon gearbox that I was doing but rejected them because they were the old plain brass style and not the molybdenum coated later versions. I use Laso (German) in my 091 gearboxes because they are OE to VW and are the coated style. I wouldn't think that even if you used the Diehl brand in your 091 that you would start having this sticky syncro problem so soon after a rebuild. W/O saying anything here the other builder might have reused the old syncro rings on this particular job. The last 091 transaxle that I did had plenty of life left on the syncro rings from a wear standpoint but I replaced them with the late style coated ones anyway. This seems fairly common with the later watercooled gearboxes. I have several sets over in the 'what do I do with these parts' bin that were replaced simply because they were not the coated version.

FWIW- I sell these 091-1 rebuilds for $995. I could use the $40 (my cost) Diehl's on my 091 rebuilds and probably wouldn't have a failure during the warranty period. I simply choose to use the $100 (my cost again) Laso's as I feel that why do a job halfway? I could use the less expensive Diehl brand and pocket the $60 but would lay awake at night worrying about them sticking. And if I worry about something then its not worth the $60 difference!

Why is Dave and Sherrie's trans sticky from 1st to 2nd when cold? I would guess that the brand and weight of gear oil as the likely culprit with the syncros playing a part as well.

-Todd Hill VolksWerks Transaxles Olympia, WA 360-412-0948


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