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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:10:46 -0400
Reply-To:     David Beierl <synergx@IBM.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         David Beierl <synergx@IBM.NET>
Subject:      Re: Brake fluid DOT 3-4-5-?
Comments: To: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.SOL.3.96.990404201309.19278A-100000@yoda>
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Eric, are you sure that you don't have DOT 5.1 there? Bentley clearly states that you *must not* use DOT 5 in the vanagon as it will lead to serious internal corrosion.

david

At 20:18 4/4/99 -0400, EMZ wrote: > I think you better tone down your mouth there buddy! I have a >bottle of DOT 5 in my hand right now. It state in very clear >letters "compatible with all dot 3 and dot 4 systems. Go back to school! >This has been discussed on the list in the past. Therefore I am not >going to waste anymore of my time on this topic or with you. > > Eric 86-VW4x4 > vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z > Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler > > >On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Karl Wolz wrote: > >> WRONG! DO NOT USE DOT 5 FLUID IN VANAGONS OR ANY OTHER VEHICLE NOT DESIGNED >> FOR IT. DOT 5 is designed for use with silicon seals and will dissolve >> those in your vanagon. Brake failure is imminent!!! The other info on DOT >> 3 vs. DOT 4 is correct, although I have used the two interchangeably and had >> little difficulty, even on long (30 mile) downgrades. >> >> Karl Wolz >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 8:53 AM >> Subject: Re: Brake fluid DOT 3-4-5-? >> >> >> > Nothing. The only time you will have a problem is if you >> >used dot 3. DOt 3 will boil at lower temperatures. If you >> >get the brakes hot, the fluid will boil, and that create air (boiled >> >brake fluid) in the lines, just as you need the brakes most. >> >Your brake pedel may feel mushy or go right to the floor, >> >but will pump up. After stopping and letting the brakes cool >> >everything will return to normal. This has happend to me >> >twice, as I'm very demanding of my vehicles, with all the hills >> >here in W. PA. The fix is simplly bleed out all the old and in with the >> >dot 4. (reference the filler cap) >> > >> > This is just one more detail of the vanagon personality. >> > >> > Eric 86-VW4x4 >> > vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z >> > Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler >> > >> > >> >On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, MtnGal wrote: >> > >> >> > DOT 4 only. >> >> > Eric >> >> Dot 4 only in Vanagons?? >> >> What will another dot # do to the parts? >> >> [[[I took a 600 mile (round trip to the warehouse)and half way through >> stop >> >> and go 80mph rush hour traffic I felt I was about to lose my brakes. >> >> All I had in the van was DOT3 so in it went!!]]] >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>

David Beierl - dbeierl@ibm.net


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