Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:22:58 -0400
Reply-To: Mike <mayfly95@PAONLINE.COM>
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From: Mike <mayfly95@PAONLINE.COM>
Subject: Re: Fire ruins my day...
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OH BOY !!!
Another litigation flame war ! you guys obviously have more free time
then me, I am still under my vanagon, (remember those.)
thanks to Darrell and Larry Calhoun and Kerry for providing the
necessary info. got the hose for half of what the dealer wanted and have
the chart to replace the rest b4 I am stranded again.
On to the tune up and rear heater core replacement, and then the
infamous fresh air fan..... the fun never stops. hmmmm inspection due
next month also....
Have fun kids!
mike
87 westy
the site is http://unix1.thelambgroup.com/~tboehler/VW/
Steve wrote:
>
> Leif...i agree that suing the fire dept. idea is nuts.
> Still, I wish i knew
> what court house all these frivolous lawsuits get filed in.
> I have a HELL of a
> time just with my meritorious cases...i can't imagine why
> anyone would bother
> with a frivolous suit....there's no money in it...the judge
> will sanction the
> attorney for bringing it (i have taken an oath as an officer
> of the court) ...
> it's a ton of work...it ruins your reputation ... there is
> absolutely nothing to
> be gained from one...unless a big corporation is footing the
> bill. In fact,
> corporations are likely the source of 99% of all frivolous
> lawsuites. They
> bring them for other economic reasons.
>
> anyway, didn't mean to start a war.
> steve
>
> Leif wrote:
>
> > I think you mis-understood what I meant by the term "litigation nuts". I
> > was referring to those individuals who want to except no personal
> > responsiblity, instead they seek to blame others and seek astronomical
> > damages for their own stupidity or lack of common sense. We are taking
> > about suing the fire dept. because they used too much water to put out the
> > fire.
> >
> > I'VE been brainwashed?.... Special interest lobbying?.... Have you heard of
> > the Trial Lawyers Association? Oh, somebody's been brainwashed alright.
> >
>
> Compared to GM, GE, IBM, Aetna, etc the TLA is nothing.
>
> >
> > Leif Paulsen
> > '86 Syncro "Thor"
> >
> > >
> > > Hey...i resent that. Lets burn all the idiots and ripoffs and insurance
> > > companies who make it necessary to hire a lawyer instead. You have been
> > > brainwashed by insurance companies and corporations that wish to
> > > rob, maime and
> > > kill with impunity. In 10 years of practice, I have only seen maybe three
> > > frivolous law suits. I can't believe how effectively people are
> > > brainwashed on
> > > this issue...but with milliuons spent by lobbying and special
> > > interests, i guess
> > > that';s what you get.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leif wrote:
> > >
> > > > Amen and thank God for those men and women "hose nuts" that
> > > risk their lives
> > > > to save our lives. In spite of my love for my vanagon, I value
> > > the safety
> > > > of myself and family more any day. I think we should line up
> > > some of the
> > > > "litigation nuts" and open up the fire hoses on them. Whew, I
> > > can get down
> > > > off this soap box now.
> > > >
> > > > Leif Paulsen
> > > > '86 Syncro "Thor"
> > > >
> > > > > Eric writes, "I would start by getting a good lawyer and suing
> > > > > the nozzle
> > > > > nuts. They cause more damage than the fire
> > > > > sometimes. It's a wonder they didn't try to cut the roof on a
> > > > > door post, to
> > > > > get in to a perfectly fine unlocked door to get to the fire."
> > > > > My wife is a Paramedic who runs 911 calls in Shelby County, TN.
> > > > > surrounding
> > > > > Memphis. Stationed in a firehouse and making the fire scene with
> > > > > firefighters she is exposed to all of the dangers attendant to
> > > > > fire fighting.
> > > > > A burning automobile is a danger to those who are fighting
> > > the fire and
> > > > > there is risk of injury. Those "hose nuts" have a responsibility
> > > > > to protect
> > > > > the public interest while at the same time protecting their
> > > > > personal safety.
> > > > > They have a responsibility to attack the fire in a manner that is
> > > > > aggressive
> > > > > enough to ensure their personal safety. Unfortunately, that
> > > may mean the
> > > > > application of more water than may seem appropriate to the
> > > > > average observer.
> > > > > There is often more damage from water than from fire. That
> > > is the current
> > > > > state of the technology. If you don't want water damage, don't
> > > > > call the fire
> > > > > department. But, there will be little left to salvage if you don't.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rico Dagastino
> > > > > Munford, TN.
> > > > >
> > >
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