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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:09:42 -0400
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      Re: tire anecdotal evidence
Comments: To: prs <schiemer@MAGICNET.NET>

I'd like to kibitz on something I happen to know a little about; tire design.

A good friend of mine is a senior tire engineer for Bridgestone/Firestone. He has discussed on numerous locations, that automobile manufacturers will contract with Bridgestone/Firestone, to design the tire that is perfect for their car. The manufacturer provides all of the details of the car and anticipated needs from the tire. Bridgestone/Firestone goes to the drawing board from there.

While some companies like VW, may purchase Commercial-Off-the-Shelf available tires, I would be willing to bet ALL are very particular about the tires. I think all of us will agree, you can have a wonderful vehicle, and put the wrong tires on, and end up with a dog. What company would spend millions in R&D for a vehicle, then put tires on that make it handle like a glue horse on a mud path?

G. Matthew Bulley Bulley-Hewlett & Associates www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

-----Original Message----- From: prs [SMTP:schiemer@MAGICNET.NET] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 8:03 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: tire anecdotal evidence

> To be useful, we would need a large, unbiased sample. Lacking > that, I prefer to follow VW's recommendations, since they have made a > scientific study of the issue.

It is incorrect to assume Volkswagon has done any kind of study, scientific or otherwise, without tangible evidence of same. Just because they design and build a vehicle for availability to the mass market, they are not bound to 'study' anything about ANY part of the vehicle, tires or otherwise. It's just that sort of blind faith that causes consumers to believe myth over real 'fact'. IE; VW -a multi billion DM company doing business in hundreds of countries throughout the World- builds a car so it HAS to be safe to own and drive. [Lessee, saddle fuel tanks in Chevy pickups and Pinto gas tanks come to mind here...] And both those manufacturers are way bigger than VW. Where were all their scientific studies?? If I was to hazzard a guess, and that's all it is, VW probably inquires from the manufacturers what tires they would recommend for a particular application. Then they go the extra step to find out how little they'll have to pay for the tire on the xx,xxx units they intend to build and sell that year. Come next year, they start the process all over again. They'd rely on the tire manufacturer for the science, then do the correct bean counter thing and buy it (sic; recommend them) on the cheap. Kibitz


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