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Date:         Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:34:00 -0600
Reply-To:     tonyd <tonyd@CANDESA.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         tonyd <tonyd@CANDESA.COM>
Organization: candesa
Subject:      Re: Fire ruins my day...
Comments: To: "Horace K. Sawyer" <firestream@MINDSPRING.COM>
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All right, this thread has gone on long enough without my response. First, I hope that there is no confusion regarding the fact that I am not the one that suggested sueing the "nozzle nuts". This was someone else on the list. Next, I would like to say that the firemen in our area (Provo, Utah) were really great. They were there in extremely short order (once they were called) and went right to work on the fire, without damaging anything unecessarily. Granted, I had the hatch open, but they opened the engine compartment decklid (without an axe)and had to move the passenger seat to get to the battery, The battery situation was where I thought there would be some damage, you know how hard it is to move the seat when you're not sitting in it, but they didn't damage a thing. They attended to the fire in a swift and efficient manor and I thanked them heartily for doing such a good job. Hell, if you want to be honest about it, I wish they would have let it burn just a tad longer so the damage was a bit more noticeable! (for insurance sake, of course.) Anyway, I just want everyone to know that it is not me posting the "hate". They did a killer job for me and I'm thankful. The fire chief even went so far as to compliment me on how good of shape my vanagon was in. He said that usually when they are called to a vanagon fire, he'll open the sliding door and all sorts of crap will fall out, the battery is usually corroded, and the van has been treated poorly overall. He said this was the nicest van he's seen on fire! (go ahead and laugh, I did, it's a silly comment).

love your neighbor, sue yourself

Tony '87GL (barbeque style)

"Horace K. Sawyer" wrote:

> Bravo! I'm a vol. f/f too. > > Sue the fire dept? For what? Did they start the fire? Heck, truth be > known, the owner was probably negligent in not maintaining his vehicle. > After all, how many well maintained vehicles spontaneously burst into > flames at Taco Bell. > > What if he ran into someone and killed them because he was too damn cheap > to maintain the van? Then what would we be facing . . . > > HkS > > At 05:51 PM 4/20/99 -0400, you wrote: > > Eric writes, "I would start by getting a good lawyer and suing the nozzle > >nuts. They cause more damage than the fire > >sometimes. It's a wonder they didn't try to cut the roof on a door post, to > >get in to a perfectly fine unlocked door to get to the fire." > > My wife is a Paramedic who runs 911 calls in Shelby County, TN. surrounding > >Memphis. Stationed in a firehouse and making the fire scene with > >firefighters she is exposed to all of the dangers attendant to fire fighting. > > A burning automobile is a danger to those who are fighting the fire and > >there is risk of injury. Those "hose nuts" have a responsibility to protect > >the public interest while at the same time protecting their personal safety. > >They have a responsibility to attack the fire in a manner that is aggressive > >enough to ensure their personal safety. Unfortunately, that may mean the > >application of more water than may seem appropriate to the average observer. > >There is often more damage from water than from fire. That is the current > >state of the technology. If you don't want water damage, don't call the fire > >department. But, there will be little left to salvage if you don't. > > > >Rico Dagastino > >Munford, TN.


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