Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:33:13 -0500
Reply-To: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
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From: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
Subject: The Saga Continues...Serious problems with CV reinstall
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Hi Joel and fellow Vanagoneers:
I have found out that I am able to now easily get the CV Outer Race on, when
I position it with the circumferential slot in the Outer Race oriented
INWARDS towards the shaft.
Therefore, you (Joel) were right! and I thank you very much for helping me
with that!
Of course, I have to eat some crow now, and it's bitter, bitter crow, too.
Boy, can I be stupid sometimes - I must watch EVERYTHING a mechanic does!!
However, I'm not as stupid as the "professional" mechanic who pressed off
the Inner Race (stuck on extremely tight), and placed my new boot in WITHOUT
removing the old torn boot first, and then re-pressed on the inner race
BACKWARDS!!
I didn't notice it until yesterday, becuase the old boot was nested in with
the new boot. I didn't even look hard, I mean, who would even thought to
check that? I'm a total newbie, and even I know better!
Anyhow, yesterday, I had to take a frustrating 45 Min bus ride, lugging the
half axle, down to Canadian Tire, where I asked them to CUT off the old boot
flange. They said OK, no charge, come back in 1/2 hour. Great (I thought)!
Guess what they did? They removed the inner race from the OTHER CV, pulled
out the old boot, and that pressed that Inner Race on BACKWARDS too! So, now
I have two backwards CV joints! F#$%!
I just found that out when I went to check out your (Joel
Walker's)suggestion regarding reversing the Outer Race, to see if I could
get it on that way..(as it wouldn't go on, even with prayers for assistance
from my ancestors - of course, they were all accountants, what do they
know....)
Now, I am assuming that there is no right or wrong way of orienting the ball
cage, or do I have to worry if that is screwed up too? (I know about the
correct way to line up thick and thin slots in the outer and inner races, I
don't mean that)
To clarify my current situation, both of my CV joints have the slot in the
outer race oriented towards the center of the axle.
Can I go with that, or do they need to be flipped around? Or something else?
Any ideas?
Marshall Ruskin
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Walker <jwalker@uronramp.net>
To: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@pangea.ca>
Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Serious problems with CV reinstall -HELP!
>>Is a gear puller a good tool to get the inner race removed?
>
>
>hmmm. it might work, but you'll need to be VERY careful NOT to scratch
>the inner surfaces of those grooves (where the balls run)!!
>
>>The outer race has it's circumferential groove towards the end of the
>>shaft - what groove or grooves do I look for on the inner race?
>
>
>not grooves, but look at the other joint and see if there's any
>writing or numbers on one side or the other.
>
>>Do you mean the inner race grooves that line up with the shaft's
>splines??
>
>
>no, but the grooves in the inner race (IR) have to match the grooves
>in the outer race (OR) such that there is a V-arrangement to each pair
>of grooves on the IR and anotherV-arrangement to the matching pair of
>grooves on the OR. the shaft splines don't matter. that is, the
>relative position of the grooves or the inner race or outer race to
>the splines doesn't matter at all. just any old way it slips/fits on
>is ok ... you're gonna rotate the axle until the holes line up anyway.
>
>i've assembled joints 'backwards' (where the OR is backwards to the
>way it's supposed to be with respect to the IR), and it's VERY tight
>and won't wiggle and hard to get back apart. :( that's why i think
>you've put this one with the OR backwards to the IR, and if you've got
>the OR outer-surface groove facing the right way, the only thing i can
>think of is the IR is backwards on the axle.
>
>try flipping the OR around and see if it'll assemble better that way
>(and wiggles/tilts right). i do NOT know if it matters which way the
>whole joint faces on the axles .... i 've just always made sure the
>groove was in the same place (facing out on the axle) when i put them
>together).
>
>joel
>
>
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