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Date:         Tue, 25 May 1999 21:59:31 -0700
Reply-To:     "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@SCHWENK-LAW.COM>
Subject:      Re: [Syncro] Custom Syncro Springs
Comments: To: David Marshall <david@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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David, there's nothing wrong with making a profit, i just wanted to clarify that i had no profit motive...or would be making no profit. This is a list purchase. As for using your springs, we would need to know the exact spring rate, whether they were set after being wound, are shot peened and powder coated, etc. Your web page does not provide that info. Also, at this point, the work's done pretty much, except for a couple of measurements that would been to be made using yours, too. How much for your springs without the rear lift spacer? steve

David Marshall wrote:

> I'm just trying to save you some work, time and money here Steve. As you > already may know there is nothing "special" about the front Syncro springs, > as in the spacing between coils is uniform thoughout. My springs are 15% > stiffer than stock and everyone has commented quite positivly on the ride > quality. If ride height is a concern get the trusty hack saw out and cut > part of the coil to make it the height you want it - nothing dangerous > about this as this is how they are made at the factory. > > About the profit thing... yes, I do make a few bucks at these, but remember > this isn't my day job, so I'm not getting rich from doing it. > > At 18:24 25/05/1999 -0700, Steven X. Schwenk wrote: > >From: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@Schwenk-Law.com> > > > >To clear up any confusion, the two springs are very different. The > >list-purchase custom springs will offer better performance for most syncro > >owners than the taller, commercially offered springs. The list springs are > >being designed (spec wise) by engineers, not by me. The goal is optimum > >suspension performance, not jacking the van up. Maintaining stock > >ride-height will result in a more stable and better handling van, and hence a > >more off-road worthy van for the my intended use....which is not traversing > >rock fields or terrain where incresaing ground clearance becomes a necessity > >or is critical. Cornering, traction, stability down off-camber steep > >downhills on loose gravel and on high-speed washboard are higher priorities > >for me than another inch or so of ground clearance. The list-purchase > >springs will out perform the taller springs on this type of terrain, and on > >the highway, too. The suspension will perform better overall, too, IMO, > >since I believe increasing spring length and spring rate, without any other > >modifications to the suspension, results in an overall loss of available > >travel out in real world conditions. > > > >There is no profit involved in the list purchase. > >steve > > > >David Marshall wrote: > > > >> From: David Marshall <david@volkswagen.org> > >> > >> Just so everyone knows, I offer Syncro springs (in stock) for $200 USD, > >> they are designed to lift your Syncro 4 to 5cm and are 15% stiffer than > >> stock... Please check out http://www.fastforward.ca for details. > >> > >> At 13:17 25/05/1999 -0700, Steven X. Schwenk wrote: > >> >From: "Steven X. Schwenk" <Steve@Schwenk-Law.com> > >> > > >> >As previously reported, I have been working with Betts > >> >Spring co www.bettsspring.com to come up with some > >> >replacement springs for the syncro. > >> > > >> >These springs will be top quality, peened, heat set (or > >> >something like that) and powder coated. Betts had my syncro > >> >springs for a week and tested them for rate, etc. I will > >> >also be taking my syncro to Betts witht he stock springs in > >> >place for final gathering of data before production. > >> > > >> >The springs I am going to have made will be somewhere > >> >between 15% and 20% stiffer than stock. This is the last > >> >detail we need to work out. The ride height will be very > >> >near stock, perhaps a 1/2" taller than stockers. These > >> >springs are not intended to increase ride height since we > >> >want full performance from the stock suspension and unduly > >> >increasing ride height limits the amount of travel available > >> >for use in real world conditions. > >> > > >> >The more we order, the cheaper they'll be. If i can get a > >> >total of five orders, the price per spring is one-half what > >> >it would be for just one pair. (from about $125 per spring > >> >to about $70 per spring.) Thus far we have 3 people who > >> >want them. > >> > > >> >Let me know if you are interested. Also let me know how > >> >muchg stiffer you think they shopuld be. the plan is to not > >> >make them too much stiffer....they do not need to be a whole > >> >lot stiffer. The rears seem fine and we want to be able to > >> >use the new fronts with the stock rears anfd still have them > >> >balanced. > >> >steve > >> > > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? > >> >http://www.onelist.com > >> >Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- David Marshall Quesnel BC, Canada -- > >> -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet -- > >> -- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab -- > >> -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- > >> -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- > >> > >> Note: VOLKSWAGEN.ORG is not affiliated with VWoA or VW AG > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? > >> http://www.onelist.com > >> At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Having difficulty getting "in synch" with list members? > >http://www.onelist.com > >Try ONElist's Shared Calendar to organize events, meetings and more! > > > > > > -- David Marshall Quesnel BC, Canada -- > -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet -- > -- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab -- > -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- > -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- > > Note: VOLKSWAGEN.ORG is not affiliated with VWoA or VW AG


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