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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:33:36 -0700
Reply-To:     Coby Smolens <cobys@WELL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Coby Smolens <cobys@WELL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Air Bleeder Installation/Cooling System Bleeding Procedure
In-Reply-To:  <697F9D923A9DD211B0B100A0C9D60BF520153C@SAND01>
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Hi Andrew,

The vanagon.com archives can be found at http://gerry.vanagon.com/archives/vanagon.html , where I just tried to do the search that I feel sure will net us a fine description of the procedure in question and was confounded by an intransigent search engine that left me hanging for an unacceptably long interval. So here it is:

-- Open both front and rear heater valves fully (Rear heater valve is under rear bench seat accessible through an opening in the passenger side of its cover box. Pull the valve lever forward to open.) -- Remove radiator grill (The five slot-headed things in the grill release when turned 90 degrees) -- Raise van at front about 16" with a floorjack. -- Put a big flat drip tray under passenger side of radiator, loosen the 13mm bleeder screw on top passenger side of radiator - DON'T remove it. It's a bitch to get back in while hot coolant is trying its best to get out. Put another drip tray at the rear under the main reservoir. -- Fill the engine with 50/50 mix of VW Autobahn coolant (ZVW 237 102) and water. -- Open bleeder valve on the "h"-piece bleeder thingy at the front of the engine compartment (front is front, remember), or on the little in-line bleeder assembly ahead of number three cylinder (LF of engine) if yours is an '83. -- Start engine. -- Have a steady-footed friend* hold the engine at 2000 rpm from now 'til you say otherwise. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO YOUR WELL-BEING WHILE YOU ARE FILLING THE SYSTEM. The speed of the engine is what forces the coolant to the front of the van. If it suddenly slows down during this process it WILL do a damn fine impersonation of a volcano at the fill opening of the main reservoir. -- Keep adding coolant until the reservoir is full and clear coolant flows from the radiator bleeder. (In a system with no cylinder head problems, and a good water pump and thermostat, filling the system shouldn't take longer than five minutes or so past the point when the engine reaches full operating temperature as displayed on your temp gauge, and it can take less.) -- When the system seems full and you can feel warm coolant circulating through the top of the radiator, close the bleeder valve on the radiator and in the engine compartment, install the cap on the main reservoir and shut down the engine for half a minute or so. You can say "Otherwise!", to your friend who's been faithfully white knuckling the wheel and the gas pedal all this time in terror of letting the engine speed drop lest you be inundated in 200 degree ZVW. This respite allows any remaining air bubbles to puddle up in places from which they can be flushed in the next step, and your friend to prepare for the final stage of the process.) -- Restart the engine and run at 2000rpm., remove cap from main reservoir, open bleeder valves. -- When clear bubble-free fluid flows from radiator, close bleeders, top-up main reservoir, install cap, tell your friend to relax, shut off engine. Top up overflow reservoir. Provide your loyal friend with whatever beverage you promised beforehand, and Bob's your uncle!

NOTE: In spite of the most careful bleeding it is still possible to have some air trapped in the system. It can eventually displace coolant in the reservoir. If the level warning light comes on within days, even a couple weeks of bleeding the system, don't panic. Check the level in both reservoirs, top up as needed and road test. If all is intrinsically well with your cooling system you won't do this more than once or maybe twice. ANOTHER NOTE: There is a bleeder on the rear heater which one can open during the bleeding process to let any air out of the rear heater, but this necessitates removal of the cover over the heater which is more or less of a pain in the ass depending on the rear seat configuration.

* MY "friend" is a special tool which resembles a caulking gun with a four foot long plunger rod and a hook that slips over the steering wheel. I can slide the plunger down onto the gas pedal and squeeze the "trigger" of the gun thus setting the pedal exactly where I want it. Works for checking brake lights, too. I think they're available in some parts stores, I got mine from Mac Tools.

Have fun! Coby Valley Wagonworks "Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959" Volkswagen Bus, Vanagon, Westfalia and Eurovan Repair and Service Specialists

1535 Sir Francis Drake Blvd., San Anselmo, CA 94933 Voice:(415) 457-5628 Fax: (415) 457-0967 http://wagonworks.com mailto:contact@wagonworks.com

-----Original Message----- From: PhamA [mailto:PhamA@aurorabio.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 9:08 AM To: 'Coby Smolens' Subject: RE: Air Bleeder Installation for 1.9L water-cooled boxer

Hi Coby, Thanks for the instruction. I went and bought the big funny plier for the big dopey clamps and a large bucket to collect the coolant that might drip onto the street. The Benley book did not have any instruction of how to assemble/dis-assemble. by trial and error, not exactly the same sequence you described, I removed the H-thingy and installed a new one, and it is now ready to be bled. Please post the procedure for bleeding. You mentioned it might be in the archive. Since I am recently become a proud owner of a VW van (3 months), where is the archive and how to retrieve info from it. Thanks! Andrew


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