Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:55:46 -0600
Reply-To: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
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From: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Subject: shocks, Syncro, longish
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HERE's ALL WE KNOW so far.
Ch
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* BILSTEIN Roughly $900 for the set. $312.50 for fronts, each. Rear's
off the shelf revalved to something close to Udo's specification.
These are a special set ordered at great trial and trouble by a small group
of Listee's. I think we're all nuts, but then I do like Bilsteins. At
this point in time, NO MORE WILL BE BUILT. Or so says Bilstein. Who
knows. Maybe we can get the off-road shop to pick up where Udo at Bilstein
left off. BUT, DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.
* KONI Cost $650
TIME. Koni has not done this before, and will need at least one iteration
to "get it right". This will take a vehicle in the vacinity for Koni to
see/try, and some time to do it. Any other method of determining if the
valving is correct, such as here they are, let us know - is not in my mind,
a valid check of the effort, and I would expect Koni to insist on
availability of a vehicle to try the valving out on.
Koni did offer to do the same jobn as Bilstein. Price approximae, we did
not follow up on the option. Would be one off customs, but then once
theyare done and set up correctly, who knows.
* Boge "N's" $650, special order from Peter Seikel in Germany, 10 year
old technology. Seikel seems to think highly of them. ummmmmm..... - May
be some issues with shipping and customs. I think the duty, if applied, is
minimal. I tried to look it up once.
MAY BE DIFFICULT to get, or at least, possibly some money in customs, and
not cheap in any event.
* Old Man Emu. Cost $450
They say they are the best off road, but that's advertizing meant for the
LTR series with remote oil reservoirs and 2x to 3x more in cost.
They are available NOW.
Mark Drillock ?in LA? put the first set on, said they worked well.
* projektzwo (built by Bilstein special order for projektzwo at some time
in the past?), pricy, unknown what this is, but seems likely to be street,
projektzwo tends to be street oriented.
AGAIN, SPECIAL ORDER from Europe. Customs, cost, time.
* Stock Boge "C's" under $400 if ordered from list vendors, 10 year old
technology. ugghhhhh. I've not heard any good reports about them.
* MONROE Europe, South Africa.
Reported by at least two listee's to be an excellent shock. (One in
Europe, one in South Africa.) It is a European FLAP heavy Duty alternate
to the stock Boge "C's". NOT available thru Monroe, here in the states,
hence all cautions about customs duties, delays, etc. apply.
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Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - umm, ok, summers coming
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<fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>HERE's ALL WE KNOW so far.
Ch
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* <bold><underline>BILSTEIN</underline></bold> <bold>Roughly $900
for the set</bold>. $312.50 for fronts, each. Rear's off the shelf
revalved to something close to Udo's specification.
These are a special set ordered at great trial and trouble by a small
group of Listee's. I think we're all nuts, but then I do like
Bilsteins. At this point in time, NO MORE WILL BE BUILT. Or so says
Bilstein. Who knows. Maybe we can get the off-road shop to pick up
where Udo at Bilstein left off. BUT, DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.
* <bold><underline>KONI</underline></bold> <bold> Cost $650
</bold>TIME. Koni has not done this before, and will need at least one
iteration to "get it right". This will take a vehicle in the vacinity
for Koni to see/try, and some time to do it. Any other method of
determining if the valving is correct, such as here they are, let us
know - is not in my mind, a valid check of the effort, and I would
expect Koni to insist on availability of a vehicle to try the valving
out on.
Koni did offer to do the same jobn as Bilstein. Price approximae, we
did not follow up on the option. Would be one off customs, but then
once theyare done and set up correctly, who knows.
* <bold><underline>Boge "N's"</underline> $650</bold>, special
order from Peter Seikel in Germany, 10 year old technology. Seikel
seems to think highly of them. ummmmmm..... - May be some issues with
shipping and customs. I think the duty, if applied, is minimal. I
tried to look it up once.
MAY BE DIFFICULT to get, or at least, possibly some money in customs,
and not cheap in any event.
* <bold><underline>Old Man Emu.</underline> Cost $450
</bold>They say they are the best off road, but that's advertizing
meant for the LTR series with remote oil reservoirs and 2x to 3x more
in cost.
They are available NOW.
Mark Drillock ?in LA? put the first set on, said they worked well.
* <bold><underline>projektzwo</underline></bold> (built by Bilstein
special order for projektzwo at some time in the past?), pricy, unknown
what this is, but seems likely to be street, projektzwo tends to be
street oriented.
AGAIN, SPECIAL ORDER from Europe. Customs, cost, time.
* <bold><underline>Stock Boge "C's"</underline></bold> under $400 if
ordered from list vendors, 10 year old technology. ugghhhhh. I've not
heard any good reports about them.
* <bold><underline>MONROE</underline></bold> Europe, South Africa.
Reported by at least two listee's to be an excellent shock. (One in
Europe, one in South Africa.) It is a European FLAP heavy Duty
alternate to the stock Boge "C's". NOT available thru Monroe, here in
the states, hence all cautions about customs duties, delays, etc.
apply.
*****************************************************************
Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - umm, ok, summers coming</fontfamily>
