Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:43:37 -0600
Reply-To: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
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From: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Subject: CARAT and Syncro spring measurements
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Steve, I think I sent you this before, but I saw a post on the list saying
measure the springs, so I dug up the info.
Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - Summers here and with it, Mosquitoes!
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SPRINGS
Interesting. Here are the measurements I made on the springs.
The Syncro has 150,000 miles, the CARAT had about 37,000 miles when rolled
into a soft snow filled marshy ditch at about 70 mph. (oops)
REARS SYNCRO CARAT
Length 1 inch shorter, approximately
Major Diameter 6 1/4 6 1/2 Spring coil diam
Minor Diameter 23/32 24/32 Spring wire diam
full Coils of wire approx. 5 approx. 3
So the SYNCRO REAR springs are longer, with two more coils, but made of
thinner diameter wire, and have a smaller major diameter. I'm not sure if
that makes them softer than the CARAT springs or not.
FRONTS SYNCRO CARAT
Length 1 inch shorter, approximately
Major Diameter 5 1/4 5 1/4 Spring coil diam
Minor Diameter 10/16 (5/8) 11/16 Spring wire diam
full Coils of wire Same, both have approx. 7 coils.
Both springs look identical! The CARAT's wire diameter is again slightly
larger in diameter. Both have 7 coils. I suppose the CARAT's are
stiffer??
I would doubt that the shorter length of the CARAT springs front and rear
is due to sag. The CARAT had barely 37,000 miles at it's demise. Some day
I may find a way to measure spring rate. I hope to get into my old
employer to use the press and measure compressed length against pressure.
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Steve, I think I sent you this before, but I saw a post on the list
saying measure the springs, so I dug up the info.
Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - Summers here and with it, Mosquitoes!
****************************
<fontfamily><param>Geneva</param>SPRINGS
Interesting. Here are the measurements I made on the springs.
The Syncro has 150,000 miles, the CARAT had about 37,000 miles when
rolled into a soft snow filled marshy ditch at about 70 mph. (oops)
REARS SYNCRO CARAT
Length 1 inch shorter, approximately
Major Diameter 6 1/4 6 1/2 Spring coil diam
Minor Diameter 23/32 24/32 Spring wire diam
full Coils of wire approx. 5 approx. 3
So the SYNCRO REAR springs are longer, with two more coils, but made of
thinner diameter wire, and have a smaller major diameter. I'm not sure
if that makes them softer than the CARAT springs or not.
FRONTS SYNCRO CARAT
Length 1 inch shorter, approximately
Major Diameter 5 1/4 5 1/4 Spring coil diam
Minor Diameter 10/16 (5/8) 11/16 Spring wire diam
full Coils of wire Same, both have approx. 7 coils.
Both springs look identical! The CARAT's wire diameter is again
slightly larger in diameter. Both have 7 coils. I suppose the CARAT's
are stiffer??
I would doubt that the shorter length of the CARAT springs front and
rear is due to sag. The CARAT had barely 37,000 miles at it's demise.
Some day I may find a way to measure spring rate. I hope to get into
my old employer to use the press and measure compressed length against
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