Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:05:41 -0600
Reply-To: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@IEEE.ORG>
Subject: OOoooo, ouch. re: firing order and plugs.
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So, how many of us that have rebuilt air and water cooled boxers saw that
faux paux and rolled our eyes longly and slowly.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
Straight from Bently for Air Cooled Busses, Beetle, and a quick look under
the engine lid on Syncro Beast. Oh, and by the way, THE FIRING ORDER IS
THE SAME ON ALL OF EM: 1, 4, 3, 2.
AIR COOLED BOXER (Any vintage Type 1 or Type 4 engines)
FLYWHEEL
oil
Front, left side: #3 cooler Front, right side: #1
Back, left side: #4 Back, right side: #2
PULLEY
remember that pesky oil cooler? It caused #3 to run a little hotter.
WATER COOLED BOXER
FLYWHEEL
Front, left side: #3 Front, right side: #1
Back, left side: #4 Back, right side: #2
PULLEY
For those of you into IN-LINE 4's.................
the firing order changed to 1, 3, 4, 2. ummm
Pully/ the
cam belt #1 #2 #3 #4 Flywheel
end end
Sorry, I don't know the 6's, I suppose the 5's are same as the in-line 4's,
with one extra hole.
And, yes, no where in the Vanagon Bently did I see the cylinder placement
explained for the Wasser boxer or the Air Cooled boxer. I did, however,
find the firing order and I suppose you could follow the plug wires from
the distributor.
The British Haynes Vanagon manual at least tells you the placement of #1 in
several places, and on page 5B-3, shows you the placement.
Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - Summers here and with it, Mosquitoes!
<<SNIP ORIGINAL>> (IT'S WRONG.)
You're supposed to know, apparently.
flywheel end
3 1
2 4
pulley end
Distributor rotor points to about 4 o'clock when #1 is at TDC.
Shall we rant about Bentley a little? Somebody wrote a while back that he
found everything he ever looked for there, but that has not been my
experience. :)
david
David Beierl - dbeierl@ibm.net
[text/enriched]
So, how many of us that have rebuilt air and water cooled boxers saw
that faux paux and rolled our eyes longly and slowly.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
Straight from Bently for Air Cooled Busses, Beetle, and a quick look
under the engine lid on Syncro Beast. Oh, and by the way, THE FIRING
ORDER IS THE SAME ON ALL OF EM: 1, 4, 3, 2.
<bold>AIR COOLED BOXER</bold> (Any vintage Type 1 or Type 4 engines)
<bold>FLYWHEEL
oil
</bold>Front, left side: <bold>#3 cooler</bold> Front, right side:
<bold>#1
</bold>Back, left side: <bold>#4</bold> Back, right side:
<bold>#2
PULLEY
</bold>remember that pesky oil cooler? It caused #3 to run a little
hotter.
<bold>WATER COOLED BOXER
FLYWHEEL
</bold>Front, left side: <bold>#3</bold> Front, right side:
<bold>#1
</bold>Back, left side: <bold>#4</bold> Back, right side:
<bold>#2
PULLEY
</bold>For those of you into <bold>IN-LINE 4</bold>'s.................
the firing order changed to 1, 3, 4, 2. ummm
Pully/ the
cam belt <bold>#1 #2 #3 #4</bold> Flywheel
end end
Sorry, I don't know the 6's, I suppose the 5's are same as the in-line
4's, with one extra hole.
And, yes, no where in the Vanagon Bently did I see the cylinder
placement explained for the <bold>Wasser boxer</bold> or the <bold>Air
Cooled boxer</bold>. I did, however, find the firing order and I
suppose you could follow the plug wires from the distributor.
The British Haynes Vanagon manual at least tells you the placement of
#1 in several places, and on page 5B-3, shows you the placement.
Ch
'89 SyncroBeast Vanagon - Soon to come - New Shocks for the Syncro!
'87 16V GTI
'80 850 Yamaha Special
'87 16V GTI w/ hale damage - parting out - body gone, parts remain
'89 16V GTI w/ toasted motor
'86 Scirocco (8 valve w/ auto) - SO's - now w/ it's own hale damage
Prior Lake, MinneSnowta - Summers here and with it, Mosquitoes!
<<<<SNIP ORIGINAL>> (IT'S WRONG.)
You're supposed to know, apparently.
flywheel end
3 1
2 4
pulley end
Distributor rotor points to about 4 o'clock when #1 is at TDC.
Shall we rant about Bentley a little? Somebody wrote a while back that
he
found everything he ever looked for there, but that has not been my
experience. :)
david
David Beierl - dbeierl@ibm.net
