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Date:         Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:00:49 -0400
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Propane leak!
Comments: To: Rob MacLeod <macleod@CVRTI.UTAH.EDU>

Dear Dr. Bob-

Boy do you have a lot of questions! I won't attempt to answer them all...perhaps in the aggregate of the replies you will get all the answers.

As you can imagine, lots of systems on the van will bear tinkering without safety concerns. The propane system *may* be one to leave to the experts, if you are not completely confident in your understanding/abilities. If you futzed a fix, then parked in someone's garage you could ruin their property value and make their family photo album a prized possession with a leaky propane system.

Be careful, 5 gallons of propane is a LOT of propane when mixed with air and ignited.

That being said, by spraying soapy water, you will find the leak. A loose fitting is not out of the question, but the system does not usually "disassemble" itself or decayunless futzed with. I suspect a rock may have nicked something, but the pipes are pretty thick, and well protected. It will be interesting to hear what the problem is.

I wouldn't trust your local Midas/Exxon/NTW/Arco. An RV dealer, or a natural gas/propane supplier would know how to fix it. In most places, I think you have to be certified by God and 24 angels before you can even think about working on a pressurized fuel-gas system. Find someone who is certified.

Happy motoring,

G. Matthew Bulley Bulley-Hewlett & Associates www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

-----Original Message----- From: Rob MacLeod [SMTP:macleod@CVRTI.UTAH.EDU] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:40 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Propane leak!

Folks,

Last weekend I happened to wander by our '86 Westy (only 70k original miles) and heard the sound of gas hissing. I checked under the vehicle and could smell gas so I turned off the main valve from the tank and the noise stopped. There was no gas smell inside the bus, just underneath.

I am wondering how best to go about finding the problem and fixing it, but also considering just letting someone do it for me.

If I take the first pathway, I would try slathering soap solution over the pipes and see if I can locate the site of escape. Sound reasonable so far? But I am not sure what to do if I find a hole in the system somewhere--how hard is it to replace sections of the pipe or what is involved in this? Are there specific parts for the Westy?

And if I choose to pay someone else to deal with it, can I go to my regular mechanic or should I be heading to some sort of RV place? Who is likely to know what they are doing to fix this sort of problem?

Finally, anyone got any suggestions/guesses/premonitions as to what happened? I am guessing a rock from the road flew up and hit something but what other sources of this type of injury might there be? Is it likely to be just a loose joint? Anyone else had similar problems? Does this system routinely age and fall apart over this sort of time span? It also suggests that keeping the valve shut when the bus is not in use might be advisable--although in that case I would have discovered the problem only after we set out on another trip without the luxury of dealing with it in peace.

Thanks,

Rob.

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