Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:40:28 -0400
Reply-To: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: Coolant Again
In-Reply-To: <37D67D09.B86E3422@cobaltgroup.com>
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Well, let me say this. I used standard old Prestone for 70,000
miles, with bare ALuminum heads. I never had a problem, and sold the
Van. At 103,000 miles I recently found the vehicle was crashed, (still
running fine). YOu can use any anti-freeze you want. THE PROBLEM
IS HARD WATER! Use H2O and you will not have a problem.
Eric 86-VW4x4
vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z
Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
> I will second Coby's recommendation. The chemistry of coolant is very
> sophisticated. When new the formulation "permanent" type coolants were
> introduced by the manufacturers a few years ago the "permanence" relied
> on the new coolant reacting with the NEW, un-corroded, metals in a NEW
> car. These only were effective in NEW cars as the first coolant ever
> installed.
>
> I don't know if Prestone has done something different, but I would not
> risk putting anything but the Autobahn coolant in a waterboxer. I do
> however use a product called No Rosion
> (http://www.kars.com/showcase/no-rosion/) for additional protection.
> Worked for me so far 90,000 miles.
>
> Michael Townsend wrote:
> >
> > Interesting . . .
> >
> > That is the first negative comment about the Prestone Orange Phosphate Free
> > that I have heard. Do you have any information, because I am using the
> > orange stuff now in my VWoCanada rebuild. I'd hate to lose my head gaskets
> > in 2 years!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michael Townsend
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Coby Smolens <cobys@WELL.COM>
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - 7 Sep 1999 - Special issue
> >
> > >In our shop we use ONLY the Autobahn coolant from VW. I have seen too many
> > >new cylinder heads leak due to corrosion after VERY short periods of time
> > >(like 2 years!), the installer having used other phosphate-free coolants
> > >such as the famous orange stuff that's out there (Prestone?)... The VW
> > stuff
> > >is not just a sales gimmick. It is formulated for the particular alloys
> > used
> > >in the heads and case of your waterboxer. It's expensive - $15.00/gal - but
> > >it doesn't cost so much if it _stays_in_the_engine_.
> > >
> > >Coby
> > >
> > >Valley Wagonworks
> > >"Intimately acquainted with VW Vans since 1959"
> > >
> > >Volkswagen Bus, Vanagon, Westfalia and Eurovan
> > >Repair and Service Specialists
> > >
> > >1535 Sir Francis Drake Blvd., San Anselmo, CA 94933
> > >Voice:(415) 457-5628
> > >Fax: (415) 457-0967
> > >http://wagonworks.com
> > >mailto:contact@wagonworks.com
>
>
> --
> Stuart MacMillan
> Manager, Case Program
> 800-909-8244 ext 208
>
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