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Date:         Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:27:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Roger Bowman <bowmanrp@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         Roger Bowman <bowmanrp@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Coolant chemistry
Comments: To: SYNCRO tech mailing list <Syncro@onelist.com>
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There is an interesting article in this months "NAPA News", compliments of your (my?) NAPA store.

In the article, the author contrasts the "green" and the "orange" coolants.

Bottom line: the 2 coolants, although they are 94% the same (ethylene glycol base) they different significantly in the formulation of the additive packages. Each additive package has its own "strategy" for corrosion control.

The green coolant uses silicates and phosphates to for a corrosion inhibiting coating inside your cooling system.

The orange coolants uses organic acids to develop a similar (but different) coating to protect everything.

The article goes on to mention some technical points, but is clear on one (actually two) points. 1.) Once you start a system with one or the other, changing to from the green to the orange (or visa-versa) the second chemical installed in the system cannot propagate the coating throughout the system. Since, by replacing the first by the second, the first is no longer coating and re-coating the system....bottom line: replacing orange with green and visa-versa leads to inferior protection, maybe even worse then the original coolant.

The article goes on to discuss the electrical potential in the cooling system, which calls back to mind the simple test of hooking a voltmeter to ground and the coolant (actually sticking the probe in the coolant) and verifying the potential around (something like) 1.2 volts or less. Greater then 1.2 volts indicates something is being corroded as a result of the different metals (battery effect) inside the engine. Coolant interferes with this corrosion, and the lower the voltage, the better. Change the coolant to lower the volts; part of the potential is caused by the dissolved cooling system bits that the coolant is buffering - as the volts go up, the coolant is buffering more and loosing corrosion prevention capability.

The article continues into a coolant recycling thread, which was of interest to me, since I built a coolant recycling column for my Cal Poly SLO senior project back in 1989 or so, but not too much interest to folks outside the shop environment where coolant is being recycled.

So: don't change from green to orange; use distilled water, and keep the volts in the cooling system low.

Words to live by, no? See the whole text at your local NAPA dealer.

Roger Bowman - bowmanrp@ earthlink.net Live Smart. Think for Yourself. Transform the Future


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