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Date:         Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:18:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Christopher Darilek <cdarilek@DAXCONTROL.COM>
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From:         Christopher Darilek <cdarilek@DAXCONTROL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A Cautionary Tale of Titles - Part II
Comments: To: al brase <braseelec@forbin.com>, DAVIDTHEKM@aol.com
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My experience in Texas is that when I go to a title transfer company all I need for title is the seller's signiture on the back, proof of insurance (just call your provider and get a fax of the statement) and $100. They don't care about inspection. It sounds like this guy is trying to get more money from you (and may not have the title anyway). I bought an '81 economy car in an exact same story but my guy didn't have the title. Luckily I hadn't put any money into the car and had the guy sign a bill of sale and was able to get all my money back after a tow truck fee to the guy's lot. I don't know how you could forcibly take the title from this guy's hand without him signing it on the buyer's blank (if he has the title). The same odds are for him signing a power of attorney. But if the International title service can do the job, great. Or maybe you can call the guy's bluff and tell him he doesn't need to get inspection to register the vehicle and just to go do it (use a mean voice) to test the water. I'd look into ways to get a title without having any title where you live. Lost vehicle or something? Find a privitized title transfer company and seek consulting (don't invite the attorney).

good luck and let me know what happens,

christopher 77 westfalia

David Hunt wrote: >> You may recall I had bought a non-running '82 air-cooled Vanagon >> AdventureWagen in great condition in July. I also bought a used engine on >> man I bought it from said the title was in his lockbox, and that he would >> mail it the next Monday. Two months and numerous phone calls later I still >> had no title. I finally had my attorney send a letter demanding the title or >> a refund. He admitted he had >> never registered the vehicle in Texas. He only had the Florida title that >> was signed over to him from the original owner. He said he had been planning >> to register it after he fixed it up. He never finished, and it has sat at >> his place since 1992. He said he would be willing to register it now IF I >> PAID ALL THE COSTS INVOLVED, which would be about $100. He promised he would >> then sign the Texas title he would get over to me. There are several >> problems with this idea. First it would require me to trust him again, which >> would never happen. Second, and here's where the confusion came in, to >> register a vehicle in Texas, it has to have a current inspection, as well as >> proof of insurance.

Al brase wrote: >I can see two problems with this: >I'd see if the Texas guy could just send me the Florida title along with >a power of attorney letter authorizing his signature to sign off the >thing to you. This would be necessary if he's already inserted his name >into the buyer blank. If he hasn't, why do you need a Texas title? This >is done all the time in our state. It's called "floating the title". I'd >guess your attorney could draw up the papers. >Boy! Texas surely has some dumb laws! This means basically non-runners >can't be transferred? What about rebuilders, late model insurance >company wrecks? >Al Brase >69 double cab


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