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Date:         Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:43:33 -0400
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      more Rust solutions...
Comments: To: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>

Eric is absolutely right. Condensation is THE primary contributor to rust. It is not really a cause, though. Bare metal is. You can have all the condensation in the world on an epoxy-dipped piece of steel, and it won't rust for decades. Bare steel will rust in minutes.

There are two types of condensation, one is caused by temperature, and Eric described it perfectly. The other form of condensation is caused by Salts, and brake fluid, which speed rust because they are hygroscopic, meaning: at a molecular level, they attract H20, and keep it in contact with the steel. You can fight both.

If you have neither the luxury of a garage, nor a second vehicle for use on salty days, you still have many defenses. Undercoat everything on your van with two coats of Kool Patch. Then, pull the interior, undercoat everywhere, and spray all the seams and creases inside the van with 3M rust preventative, Kroil, or Waxoil; all of which are thick waxy coatings which seal out moisture. Seal 3-mil moisture barrier behind all panels.

The details of all this on displayed on our site www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex/ Cheers.

G. Matthew Bulley Director Bulley-Hewlett & Associates www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

-----Original Message----- From: EMZ [SMTP:vw4x4@FYI.NET] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:37 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Lots of talk about Rust...

OK, Here is what I have found to cause rust. Sorry to disagree with all others on this, but some old guy told me this,....and it makes good sense. Every 24 hours the day goes from hot/days to cold/nights. This temperature change causes the air, (most nights, here in the eastern USA) to become saturated with moisture. This Temperture/ humitity level is called the dew point. This moisture condenses and becomes "dew" or water. The advantage this has, to rust your vehicle, is that it is on the inside of your vehicle by way of the air. Its in places the you cannot get to, after the vehicle was welded together from the factory. The seams are a perfect example of this. This explains why in the west vehicle don't rust as bad. At nights the air does not get below the dew point as often. So if you want your vehicle not to rust. Keep it in the garage at night.

Eric 86-VW4x4 vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Ed Goodrow wrote:

> I've seen a few messages about rust problems. Does anyone care to talk > about how to prevent rust problems for those of us who haven't had the > pleasure of dealing with that problem? > > Ed > 84 Westy (Larry, Curry, and Moe) > (Finally named my Westy) >


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