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Date:         Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:17:53 -0400
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      PVC grey water tanks...was: Auxiliary fuel tanks for Syncros and
              2WDs
Comments: To: "Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM" <Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM>

When camping, I don't like the hassle of attaching a hose and 5-gallon bladder to our sink drain (although this is what I do). We often camp in places where, the following night, some Quidam and his brood might pitch a tent. So, I'm not keen on letting my scrambled eggs and coffee grinds drain onto the ground.

I have the idea of a 20 gallon (75-80 liter) gray water tank, and before I go to the engineering firm of Spanky & Alfalfa I thought I'd check with y'all.

Here is what I am thinking. I am seeking a box-shaped, translucent polyethylene (like our water tank) under-floor tank that fills the entire length and breadth of the space between the outside passenger door and the passenger main frame rail (about 125cm x 25cm). It would hang on U-shaped metal straps, using the four floor mounted bolts for the propane tank (in place for RHD vans).

I imagine it hanging down about 3" below the edge of the van, about as much as the propane tank. The bottom would have a slight incline to the floor, that is, it would be about 22cm thick at the front, and about 27cm thick at the rear. Those dimensions would bring it to about 78 liters, providing for capture of the entire capacity of the fresh water tank, with a large margin for slosh. The incline would provide for complete drainage, and would encourage solids to settle near the drain valve.

At the bottom rear of the tank, there would be a 5cm Thetford waste valve. At the top-front of the tank there would be a 3/4" inlet hole for wastes from the sink, and a 1/4 nipple to attach a vent line.

Granted, I could make/have this made, but I am hoping someone has seen something like this...thoughts?

G. Matthew Bulley Director Bulley-Hewlett & Associates www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

-----Original Message----- From: Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM [SMTP:Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:26 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Auxiliary fuel tanks for Syncros and 2WDs

Martin,

>Any idea how the filler to the >aux tanks is routed? I looked >at the www site but didn't see >any pics of the Vanagon installation.

Not at present. I ordered Daerr's catalog to find some more details.

>To me it seems like you have to cut >the rear or front transverse frame >member in order to have no "dips" >in the filler neck.

Another idea is to use separate filler necks, like it is usual for the water tanks which are on same place and of same design. To get the fuel into the main tank you only need to have a regular fuel hose which is connected to the return line of the original installation.

>(For those skilled in working with >composites: You can buy epoxy >resins certified for Diesel fuel >tanks and build your own tanks. >This is sometimes done in boats)

I don't know about these, but there are water tanks made of PVC which will resist Diesel. But they are not certified to carry fuel at all.

Regards Helmut '80 Camper


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