Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:33:42 -0500
Reply-To: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
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From: Marshall Ruskin <mruskin@PANGEA.CA>
Subject: Re: PVC grey water tanks...was: Auxiliary fuel tanks for
Syncrosand 2WDs
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My Simple solution is to use the condiment buckets that are given away at
fast-food places. Usually used for pickles, canola oil etc.
Fits snugly under the bottom of the van, so it can't tip over. Easily hold
15 litres.
Also, cut the center of the bucket's lid out, and screw the "hoop" to the
bottom of a toilet seat, snap the lid on the bucket (with a plastic bag
inside) Voila: a yellow water tank!
Marshall
>You know, I thought of a similar contraption, but didn't like the
>"contraption" nature of it. I felt like I would surely be hauling around
>stinky old cheese-covered macaroni fragments, and rotting green pepper
>shreds if I didn't have a tank I could easily drain and HOSE OUT. Thus the
>large Thetford valve, and the incline. If I can find one, or if I have one
>made I'll keep you all posted.
>
>BTW...Euro campers has a wee one that bolts up where the sink drains under
>the van, but it ain't big enough for me, and puts another mass on the
>driver's side. I want this thing on the passenger side, using that blank
>space.
>
>G. Matthew Bulley
>Director
>Bulley-Hewlett & Associates
>www.bulley-hewlett.com
>Cary, NC USA
>888.468.4880 tollfree
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Groff, Montgomery [SMTP:Montgomery.Groff@ECHOSTAR.COM]
>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:26 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: PVC grey water tanks...was: Auxiliary fuel tanks for
>Syncrosand 2WDs
>
>I met a couple this summer (Charlie and Linda?) from NY who simply used a
>piece of 3"(?) PVC pipe. Very simple and elegant. They had a regular cap on
>the drain end and a cap with a reducer to std garden hose on the other end.
>The garden hose connects to the sink and you know what to do with the other
>end. It doesn't affect the ground clearance and is easy to drain.
>
>Here's an idea I've been toying with but haven't built yet. To increase the
>grey water capacity, connect 3 or 4 lengths of PVC pipe with elbows (180
>deg) until you have 20 gal.(or your desired capacity). For the drain
>solution, put a "T" at beginning of the pipe sections. Attach the waste
>valve to one part of the "T" and the sink drain to the other. Cover the far
>end of the first section of pipe with a screen at the far end of the first
>section of PVC to keep solids from making their way through the entire
>"maze".
>
>Am I crazy, or does anyone else think this will work?
>
>Monty
>'89 Westy
>'62 Sunroof Bug
>Denver, CO
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bulley [SMTP:gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:18 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: PVC grey water tanks...was: Auxiliary fuel tanks for
>Syncros
>> and 2WDs
>>
>> When camping, I don't like the hassle of attaching a hose and 5-gallon
>> bladder to our sink drain (although this is what I do). We often camp in
>> places where, the following night, some Quidam and his brood might pitch
>a
>> tent. So, I'm not keen on letting my scrambled eggs and coffee grinds
>> drain
>> onto the ground.
>>
>> I have the idea of a 20 gallon (75-80 liter) gray water tank, and before
>I
>> go to the engineering firm of Spanky & Alfalfa I thought I'd check with
>> y'all.
>>
>> Here is what I am thinking. I am seeking a box-shaped, translucent
>> polyethylene (like our water tank) under-floor tank that fills the entire
>> length and breadth of the space between the outside passenger door and
>the
>> passenger main frame rail (about 125cm x 25cm). It would hang on U-shaped
>> metal straps, using the four floor mounted bolts for the propane tank (in
>> place for RHD vans).
>>
>> I imagine it hanging down about 3" below the edge of the van, about as
>> much
>> as the propane tank. The bottom would have a slight incline to the floor,
>> that is, it would be about 22cm thick at the front, and about 27cm thick
>> at
>> the rear. Those dimensions would bring it to about 78 liters, providing
>> for
>> capture of the entire capacity of the fresh water tank, with a large
>> margin
>> for slosh. The incline would provide for complete drainage, and would
>> encourage solids to settle near the drain valve.
>>
>> At the bottom rear of the tank, there would be a 5cm Thetford waste
>valve.
>> At the top-front of the tank there would be a 3/4" inlet hole for wastes
>> from the sink, and a 1/4 nipple to attach a vent line.
>>
>> Granted, I could make/have this made, but I am hoping someone has seen
>> something like this...thoughts?
>>
>> G. Matthew Bulley
>> Director
>> Bulley-Hewlett & Associates
>> www.bulley-hewlett.com
>> Cary, NC USA
>> 888.468.4880 tollfree
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM [SMTP:Helmut.Zeidler@NOKIA.COM]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:26 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Auxiliary fuel tanks for Syncros and 2WDs
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> >Any idea how the filler to the
>> >aux tanks is routed? I looked
>> >at the www site but didn't see
>> >any pics of the Vanagon installation.
>>
>> Not at present. I ordered Daerr's
>> catalog to find some more details.
>>
>> >To me it seems like you have to cut
>> >the rear or front transverse frame
>> >member in order to have no "dips"
>> >in the filler neck.
>>
>> Another idea is to use separate
>> filler necks, like it is usual for
>> the water tanks which are on same
>> place and of same design. To get the
>> fuel into the main tank you only
>> need to have a regular fuel hose
>> which is connected to the return
>> line of the original installation.
>>
>> >(For those skilled in working with
>> >composites: You can buy epoxy
>> >resins certified for Diesel fuel
>> >tanks and build your own tanks.
>> >This is sometimes done in boats)
>>
>> I don't know about these, but there
>> are water tanks made of PVC which will
>> resist Diesel. But they are not certified
>> to carry fuel at all.
>>
>> Regards
>> Helmut
>> '80 Camper
>
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