Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:29:24 -0500
Reply-To: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
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From: EMZ <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
Subject: Re: Michelin MXT Specs
In-Reply-To: <19991104165947.670.qmail@hotmail.com>
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Tony,
Are these tires 205/70-14? 195/75-14? or 185/75-14? Any
place we can see the tread design? How is the niose? ride quality?
Eric 86-VW4x4
vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z
Pittsburgh, PA USA 1936-Chrysler
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Tony Peet wrote:
> ****
>
> To those of you who don't like tire threads: please delete this and move
> on/let go. I don't want to hear about it. Thank you.
>
> Tony
>
> ****
>
>
> I live in California too and went through a similar 'discovery' process with
> the MXT's. I also almost put MX's and/or MXT's on my van and then stopped
> the process at the last minute!
>
> The Michelin tire WITH an M+S rating that is made for the Vanagon is the
> 'Agilis 61' (which, by the way, I have on my '91 Syncro Westy and am very
> happy with). Many dealers will not know about the Agilis 61 because is it
> so specialized (indeed Michelin USA brought it into the country from Europe
> - where it IS in wide use-- specifically for the Vanagon. (I've talked to
> the guy at Michelin who made that decision.) When I bought mine last June, I
> know the inventories of this tire in the Michelin distribution warehouses
> was high, so it should still be easy to order once you get someone to agree
> with you that it exists!
>
> Call 1 800 MICHELIN and talk to them about it. They're fairly 'corporate
> line' there, but they DO know their stuff. The Agilis 61 is a tire designed
> for both 'urban' and "rough conditions". The are sold for commerical vans
> in Europe and Africa (!) -- "where potholes might not be fixed for
> months...if ever." The sidewall is extremely reinforced, and this has
> practically eliminated crosswind, cornering, and evasive lane-change
> 'mushiness.' For the record, it is the only tire that Michelin Corporate
> will 'officially' recommend for the Vanagon.
>
> Tony
> '91 Westy Syncro ('teepee')
> Pacific Grove, CA
>
> >From: David M <dmc@CYBURBAN.COM>
> >Reply-To: David M <dmc@CYBURBAN.COM>
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Subject: Michelin MXT Specs
> >Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:40:04 -0500
> >
> >Well I just had a set of these brought in to 'America's Tire Store' in
> >Mtn. View, CA. Drove on down to get the new sneakers applied to Moby, &
> >just as they're about to be mounted I noticed NO M+S designation!!! If
> >you don't have the M+S on the tire, CHP is going to force you to put on
> >the chains (Syncros don't count)!!! After a buncha calls to Michelin
> >ATS determined that indeed they're not M+S, so there they sit if ennyone
> >want's 'em (4 ea).
> >
> >Nobody at the store could believe they weren't M+S - they even have
> >Nittos that are M+S in 40 section width!
> >-------------
> >Yet another reason why the MXT tires are not always the best choice.
> >Also, the $75 per tire quoted by a previous poster is a fantasy in my
> >opinion. There is no mention of this tire on their web-site. In fact
> >they dont even have any stores in the North East US. And if you order by
> >mail you have to pay shipping, which negates any saving.
>
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