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Date:         Sun, 14 Nov 1999 04:26:01 -0500
Reply-To:     madsen <madsen@HOME.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         madsen <madsen@HOME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Bosch and Hella H4 Lights
Comments: To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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Hello Here is a questions for all you electrical wizzes..

I am following this thread with great interest as I am in the process of upgrading my 87GL)DOT headlights to E-code with relays.

What gauge wire should I use for my application? Im thinking of getting high quality power wire, interconnects and fuses/fuseholders from a stereo shop to minimize resistance and voltage drops. I may change to 100+ watt highs at one point so I'd like to have a wire thats open to options. " When operating voltage drops to 95 percent (12.825v), headlamp bulbs produce only 83 percent of their rated light output" <---quoted from http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/how_to/relays/

Is it important where the relays are situated on the line, I mean, is it better if they are closer to the lights? I am using Volkswagens 141 951 253B relays.

Also due to the fact the 90 amp alternator is aft, should I use the battery as the power source for my headlamps because it is closer? or does it matter. The only disadvantage I can see from using a battery is no headlamp cut-off with no ignition. Thank you, Ken Madsen Toronto ----- Original Message ----- From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Bosch and Hella H4 Lights - Group Purchace (All Model Years)

> I would say that none of them "stand out" they look just like the SAE > lights only the glass is a flat instead of round and there is an "H4" > embossed in the center of the lamp. The square H4s are the same shape as > SAE lights - the only "at a glance" difference is the "H4" embossed in the > center of the lamp. > > I am pretty confident that NO ONE is going to get upset if you drive with > H4 lights. They do not blind on coming traffic, and there is nothing > bizzare or weird about them that another motorist or police officer would > get upset about. > > At 11:22 AM 13/11/1999 -0800, JeanneMaly wrote: > >The H4s that "stand out" are the round ones, right? Is it correct that the > >rectangular ones look just like the originals but give a better lighting > >pattern, but that the round ones look different than the originals? > > > >Even so, I'm sure you're right that we should hang on to the old ones just in > >case. > > > >Jeanne > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Steve Lashley <ThingGuy@AOL.COM> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > >Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:23 AM > >Subject: Re: Bosch and Hella H4 Lights - Group Purchace (All Model Years) > > > > > >> In a message dated 11/13/99 11:42:07 AM, vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG wrote: > >> > >> <<These lights works quite well, but they are not European spec lights with > >> the built in park light. No, it is not necessary to have the European spec > >> lights but it is neat to be unique!>> > >> > >> The motorcycle 7" H4s are sold by Hella USA, the European lamps with city > >> lights are being imported directly from Europe. According to my contact at > >> Hella, the NHTSA has been going after retailers selling the European head > >> lamps, tail lamps and other non DOT approved lighting. Now if you're in > >> Canada, I don't know what the Canadian laws are. > >> > >> Hella USA gets away with selling the 7" H4s as they have a legitimate > use for > >> off road vehicles. According to Hella, any retailer selling the European > >> lights won't be safe even if they mark them "for off road use" > >> > >> I'm not trying to discourage anyone here, just letting you know that it is > >> possible that you can get a fine for using non approved head lamps. I have > >> the 7" H4s in my '74, and I am also taking a small risk. The good thing > >> about my Hella H4s is that they don't stand out. They look very similar to > >> the stock lamps. The European H4 > >> "unique" lamps with the city lights really stand out. I would recommend > that > >> you don't throw out the originals in case you ever need to go back to legal > >> lamps. > >> > >> Steve Lashley > >> '66 Westy > >> '74 Campmobile > >> '93 EV MV > >> <A HREF="http://eurocampers.com/">http://EuroCampers.com</A> > >> 314-614-0750 > >> Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other > Accessories for > >> Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan > > > > > > -- David Marshall - - Quesnel, BC, Canada -- > -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westie, 85 VW Cabriolet -- > -- 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 2.0L VW Syncro Double Cab -- > -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- > -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- > -- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) -- >


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