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Date:         Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:11:44 -0500
Reply-To:     Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject:      One-list is now set up for Interstates, Trucks, Safety,
              the Environment, Sex in Rest Stops,etc.
Comments: To: Stuart <stuart@COBALTGROUP.COM>

The list is set up. Here is how I described it: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a place to vent your spleen and learn more about U.S. highways, rails, mass-transit, 'big-rig' trucks, travel, environment, policy, safety, history, future, etc. "All types" are encouraged to attend: (truckers, environmentalists, policy -makers, concerned travelers, etc.)

The goal: exchange thoughts & ideas for improvement of transportation of people and freight across the U.S.

List founder will occasionally post editorial positions to activate debate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There are no "You will be kicked off if you complain" rules. However, we're all adults, so discuss kindly, and there won't be any need for dumb rules. I am not planning on moderating to closely, so be your own rule maker, and enforcer using Kant's Universal Maxim.

Community email addresses: Post message: groundtransport@onelist.com Subscribe: groundtransport-subscribe@onelist.com Unsubscribe: groundtransport-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: groundtransport-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/groundtransport

Here is my first post. I look forward to hearing what you have to say:

Over the road trucks are a bane to safe travel. As new processes and technology make it possible for trains to compete on time and accuracy of delivery, inter-modal trains are the answer to the upswell of dangerous trucks racing down our interstates.

G. Matthew Bulley Director Bulley-Hewlett & Associates www.bulley-hewlett.com Cary, NC USA 888.468.4880 tollfree

-----Original Message----- From: Stuart [SMTP:stuart@COBALTGROUP.COM] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 3:07 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Interstates, Trucks, Safety, the Environment,Sex in Rest Stops,etc.

Why not? Many of us like to stand on the soapbox. I, for one, have a bit of a transportation background having sold engineering and intelligent traffic software to state DOT's for six years, though I have been out of that business for five years now.

I have attended trucking safety conferences, been invited to professional meetings, trade shows, etc. in the past, and I do have some perspectives. Just follow the money, and you will find that the truck/trucking/oil companies are the source.

The Interstate Highway System was indeed justified by Eisenhower in the 1950's as a military necessity after our inability to move war materiel across the country efficiently during WWII. We were still in a cold war with Russia, remember. The oil lobby soon made it cheaper to move freight by truck than by train by not paying the true costs of using the highways through government subsidies, both direct and indirect.

Now we have lots of trucks and very poor railroads.

Today the big threat to our safety on the highways is NAFTA and all the unregulated, uninspected Mexican trucks and truckers who want to carry freight into the US and Canada. So far the trucking lobby has kept them out, so their self interest also benefits our safety in this case. Not to mention Laredo, TX, where all the freight has to change to American shippers.

Some states allow triple trailers, very dangerous to pass in wet road or two lane situations. Australia has quads, true road trains. We don't want the truckers to get carried away on our congested roads.

I guess I just made the first post to Bulley's new list!

Stuart


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