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Date:         Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:12:25 -0800
Reply-To:     "T.P. Stephens" <doktortim@ROCKISLAND.COM>
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From:         "T.P. Stephens" <doktortim@ROCKISLAND.COM>
Subject:      Re: DM: Re: VW coolant
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>To: karl <thewestyman@MINDSPRING.COM> >From: "T.P. Stephens" <doktortim@rockisland.com> >Subject: Re: DM: Re: VW coolant >In-Reply-To: <001301bf30b5$bc804540$8f2a8ad1@win95> >References: <3.0.5.32.19991116183516.008113a0@rockisland.com> > >At 11:39 PM 11/16/1999 -0500, you wrote: >>OH jeesh, here we go again!! I beg to differ, is the inferior 'green' >>propylene glycol gonna kill ALL the cars on the road? (And it IS >>phosphate-free!) I believe like 90% of the cars out there have aluminum >>heads on cast blocks..........I've NEVER seen corrosion caused by the green >>in ANY car I've serviced! YMMV. >> >>Doktor Karl Müllendorf >> >> > >Well I bet the apes where you are don't let their anti-freeze hang around 5 years or 150,000 miles either. That's what shows on the jugs at the stores around here. The amazing thing is that so many apes believe they couldn't say it if it wasn't true. > >The fact remains that the aluminum and iron manufactured in Germany is no more generic than their specifications. I certainly was not talking about all the cars on the road. Mostly I was refering to the most sensitive automotive cooling system I am aware of, the Wasserboxer. The fact is that to my knowledge none of the German manufactures have yet tested and approved other than that which has been stated for ANY OF THEIR MOTORS. It don't include the polypropalene, which by the way when in used condition is filthy stuff. I sure wouldn't pour it on my veggies. If people would handle the ethelene glycol waste responsibly, it would be a lot greener than dumping poly 'cause it's base component is biodegradable. The alchemicals from years of heat cycling in contact with various metals, plastics, rubber, oil, sealants, ect. are not very green at all. Used E-glycol can be burned in a small furnace without special handling, according to the EPA, the most repressive of Govt. agencies in the world, barring a few pissant tyrants.

You may experiment all you wish. I will follow instructions and enhance methode with proven techniques. If you wish to prove your practice is superior or equal to another, you must provide your data, obtained via scientific method. You want mine??? I refer you to the manufacturers.

Doktor Tim Maintenance Repair and Restoration of European Vehicles San Juan Island, WA


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