Date:         Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:07:44 -0500
Reply-To:     "Carrington, Tom" <tcarrington@RELITECH.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Carrington, Tom" <tcarrington@RELITECH.COM>
Subject:      Please Read, then I will shut up.
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Just as a tickler, I thought I should resend the Vanagon List welcome
message.

As many of you know, Coyote and I are the list administrators. I also am
responsible for the care and feeding of Gerry, our list server. He lives in
my home office and generally helps keep that room warm. ;) My personal
management "style" (If it could be called that) is low key. If I see
something out of line, I'll usually respond personally, and not to the list.
Below is an abridged version of the welcome message.

***Begin welcome message*********************

One  of the  great things  about the  Vanagon mailing  list is  the large
quantity of information exchanged by the  members. In order to ensure the
availability of this information, submitters  to the vanagon mailing list
agree to  grant the  list managers  the right  to printed  and electronic
distribution of  submitted articles into compilations.  List managers and
their  agents also  have the  right to  make edits  which, in  their sole
opinion, improve the clarity of  the submission. Submitters warrant that,
as  far as  they know,  they have  the right  to submit  the material  in
question  for publication.  All  articles are  considered copyrighted  by
their authors.

Due to the volume on the Vanagon list and the multigenerational nature of
the discussions, it would  be a great help if you  would make the subject
of your message explicit to what model(s)  and year(s) or era of van that
the message pertains to. For example:

   "Eurovan rear hatch won't latch"   "91 Camper stove problem"
   "87 Syncro Clutch Problems"        "83-H20 engine temperature"

Often messages refer to trips, tools or other general topics. These types
of messages are of course meant for  the whole list and a subject without
a particular van type is expected.

Fridays are a day when people do fun things on the list. These things may
actually not  be VW related,  but we  strongly encourage it.  To indicate
that a posting  is in fun and  may not be of technical  value, you should
preface or suffix your subject with /f [f] or (F). Anyone without a sense
of humor should delete these messages without reading them.

The vanagon mailing list has been around for a while and its citizens are
fairly net.savvy. Bear  that in mind before you forward  something to the
list. In particular, please avoid the following:
   o  Messages containing cookie recipes.
   o  Craig Shergold or any kid dying of cancer who wants to live
      forever in e-mail
   o  Forwarded messages with LOTS OF CAPITALS AND EXCLAMATION
      POINTS!!!!!
   o  Any virus warning which says you can get a virus just by reading
      an e-mail message, especially if the virus-carrying message always
      has the same subject.
   o  Any virus warning already listed as a hoax at any of the following
      sites:

           http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html
           http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
           http://www.kumite.com/myths/

   o  The Internet AIDS Infection Experiment or any Internet Experiment

   o  Why Computers Are Like Men/Women
   o  Petitions
   o  Good-luck charms
   o  Any Chain Letter, especially if it's already listed at:

           http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html

   o  Dire warnings or actions alerts like Save Sesame Street!, Kidney
      Thieves, Airport laptop thieves, 806 pager scams, FCC Internet Tax,
      Lexis-Nexis P-Trax database, rec.music.white-power, etc. Basically,
      anything telling the whole world to send e-mail somewhere or take
      some action, but doesn't tell you what day (and year) to stop.
      Stop forwarding hysteria!
   o  Content-free ping tests
   o  Messages with more forwards than actual text
   o  Posting private email to the whole list without permission
   o  A reply to a previous Vanagon list posting, quoting all six
      hundred lines, when all you wanted to do was respond to the last
      three

Sending this sort of thing to the  Vanagon list will make you look like a
novice, and will bring the Coyote's sarcasm crashing down upon your head.

Please refrain from profanity or pushing  other's buttons on the list. We
try very hard  to get along. Censorship will be  enacted for those unable
to control themselves. Thanks for your cooperation.

Enjoy the list!
                             TomC & Coyote
                            (the moderators)

*****End welcome message*************


TomC
tcarrington@relitech.com
http://volksweb.relitech.com
85 Vanagon Crew Cab
82 Westy diesel=>gas conversion
65 Notchback