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Date:         Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:29:22 -0500
Reply-To:     eric.henning@US.ABB.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Eric Henning <eric.henning@US.ABB.COM>
Subject:      Re: gas tank leak - long
Comments: cc: jbrush@AROS.NET
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JOhn wrote:

>I think I have a hole in the gas tank. :( Naturally, its 10 degrees >outside and snow all over the place. I know that the fuel lines, >especially the ones that go to the overflow resevoirs, are in bad shape, >but as I look underneath, I see gas dripping from the tank, more towards >the rear, and center of the tank, than the outside edges. >RMM says $150 for a new tank. Is that a fair price? Should I even try to >have the existing one repaired?

>How much fun is it to replace the fuel tank in >an 81 vanagon?

Your tank may have rust holes but could also be rubber leaks.

I did mine this past summer. Dropped the tank, wire wheeled the tank and coated with extends then Kool PAtch (brass wheel), replaced every piece of rubber on the tank (got the grommets, crossover tube, fuel sender gasket, and fuel filler grommet from dealer - couple bucks for grommets, $25 for crossover). Bought 3 meters of high pressure fuel injection (7 mm) hose from Bus Depot, bought 40 stainless steel f.i. clamps from NAPA, bought 4 feet 6.3mm (?) non-pressure fuel line from local parts store (this is used on gas tank expansion tanks).

GAs tank is easy to drop. First, drain tank by pulling off fuel lines at lower back of tank. Might be pressurized so watch out for squirting fuel. Undo gas cap and remove three screws holding filler neck in place. The rubber will probably be fused to filler neck. Careful prying will loosen. May want to get new one. I disconnected as many expansion tank hoses as I could reach (makes dropping tank easier). Next under the van uses a floor jack and a piece of wood to support tank. Un-do the two metal straps that hold the tank up. The will come completely out. Lower the floor jack slighlty and reach ontop of tank to disconnect gas sender gauge wires. These slip right out.

Next work the filler neck loose from the tank and try to get it out. You may have to take the passenger side expansion tank out. One bolt and the expansion tank pops out. Lower the gas tank noticing all the fuel lines on top of the tank. I used chalk marks to keep straight which lines went to which fuel lines. The cross over pipe will have to be popped out of the two grommets on either side of the "saddle"of the gas tank as it goes above the center floor heat vent. The front of the gas tank lies on a lip towards the front of the van. Slide the tank off this lip and out it falls.

Pop out the old grommets and pop in the new. Replace the expanion tank lines w/ the non-pressurised fuel line. Good time to swish out your tank to get any crud out. May even want to get tank professionally treated (boiled).

INstallation, as they say is reverse of removal. Use some type of rubber lubricant to assist in putting pipes back in grommets. The crossover pipe is a b*tch as you have to install the new over the heater vent, then as you raise the tank reach in the wheel wells (oh yeah, remove the front wheels) and blindly pop back in. Don't forget to hook up the gas gauge. To replace gas gauge gasket, turn the locking ring, then remove whole sender unit. I used a brass punch and slowly tapped the locking ring so it unscrewed. The tank pretty much must be in place to put the filler neck back in. Put a new gas line filter in.

Fuel line replacement is pretty straight forward- slip off old, slip on new (use new clamps). Only tough part is if you want to replace the short piece of hose going to the injectors. The injectors pop right out (remove wires first by prying open the small metal wire clips - injector plug will pull off then) by removing the nuts holding the injector bracket. This is a teardrop shaped bracket with a circle in the big end that claps the injector into the cyclinder. Once the bracket is removed, the injector just pops out. Each injector has two o-rings. I replaced these as well (Bus Depot - couple bucks). To remvoe the hose I carefully used a very sharp pointed exacto knife to work my way under the cup clamp (don't cut anything but hose). Once the hose is cut, you can pull off the hose and cup. You can try to re-use the cup but i used fuel injection clamps. Good time to gently clean injectors.

Good luck. eric h. 80 westy


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