Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:36:39 -0500
Reply-To: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bulley <gmbulley@BULLEY-HEWLETT.COM>
Subject: Re: Weekender versus DeLuxe Westfalia
We use a small Propane heater in the van, and leave the cabinet door next
to the tank open.
Since the temp in the van is usually 60-65, the tank never gets down to
freezing (hasn't yet). Of course, we haven't done more than 2 days straight
in the winter.
It also helps to start with the tank full of 'warm' water, that is, if you
can fill it from home with cold water (yes, I know, that means tanking it)
and let the van sit in a warm garage for a day. If the water is 40 degrees
when you fill the tank, it is far more likely to freeze than if it is 70
degrees. I wouldn't drink the cr*p that comes out of most water heaters,
but if yous tastes okay, you could start off with water at 100 (F) and it
wouldn't freeze for a few days if you kept the van relatively warm. Our
water in the summer comes out of the tank near 100. Ugh.
G. Matthew Bulley
Bulley-Hewlett
Corporate Communications Counselors
www.bulley-hewlett.com
Cary, NC USA
888.468.4880 tollfree
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan J. Flint [SMTP:ajflint@itsa.ucsf.edu]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:12 AM
To: Bulley
Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Weekender versus DeLuxe Westfalia
Bulley:
We are new to the running water with camping thing. I agree will
all that you said, but how do you maintain running water at 20 degrees
F? We would like to do some winter camping, and might ski or hike during
the day. I figured I could never keep water in the tank, much less use
the pump, at temps below freezing.
Has anyone used their Carver P4 or equivalent in part to keep
their water supply above freezing point?
Thanks.
Alan.
'87 Syncro Westfalia.
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Bulley wrote:
> After the "cooking in the Westy thing", I thought about this...
>
> We debated getting the Weekender, as I think the Jump seats are groovy,
and
> I wasn't sure how much camping we'd do. Eventually I decided on the
> full-blown DeLuxe for our needs. I came to the conclusion that it depends
> highly on how you camp.
>
> We like to take a couple friends to really remote spots for a few days,
so
> the fridge and large storage is important for us. We also like the
ability
> to have the van packed and ready to camp at all times; thus, on Friday,
Sue
> can say "let's go camping" at 4:00 p.m., and by 4:15, we are on the road.
> Most of all, (beyond the fridge/stove thing) I LOVE having running water
> and a sink in the van. When it's 20 degrees out, the last place I want to
> be is out in the cold, messing with a water bladder to do dishes or brush
> my skuzzy fangs. I love being 'self-contained'. No muss, no fuss.
>
> So if you camp in places where there is a place to cook outside, and
> there's a satisfactory solution to the running water issue where you
camp,
> and you don't mind having to lug a cooler and a stove, and other flotsam
to
> and frau, a weekender could be your cup of tea. For our needs, the DeLuxe
> was just right.
>
> G. Matthew Bulley
> Bulley-Hewlett
> Corporate Communications Counselors
> www.bulley-hewlett.com
> Cary, NC USA
> 888.468.4880 tollfree
>
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