Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:05:14 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject: Re: Low end torque, was: 4 Cyl VR-6: Maybe Not!!
In-Reply-To: <01BF3C3B.D580FA80@ip239.raleigh13.nc.pub-ip.psi.net>
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The TDI is a great engine, I think it is really 149lb@1900-2900 and
90hp@4000, I would hardly call it "simple access". In order to make a TDI
run you need the *complete* wiring harness from the donar vechicle,
throttle peddal with potentiometer, speed sensor in the speedometer to name
a few things - this "drive by wire" system is what I would rate as exotic
when it comes to a Volkswagen engine - but it is a FANTASTIC engine for
bottom end power, economy and saving the environment. The VR6 would be a
simpler engine to wire up and get running, the problem is it is thirsty and
heavy!
At 08:37 PM 01/12/1999 -0500, Bulley wrote:
>From what I've seen, the 1.9l Tdi is the simplest access to lots of "grunt"
>without going to something exotic.
>
>While I don't have the specs at my fingertips, I recall something like 145
>lb/ft of torque at 2100 rpm. THAT's nice. Coupled with it's 105 hp at 4200
>(again, just recollection), it gives you torque when you need to get going
>and stamina when you want to go faster. Sweet.
>
>Bjorn Ratjen [SMTP:bratjen@DIRECT.CA] just landed one of these motors, He
>prolly knows the specs. Bjorn?
>
>G. Matthew Bulley
>Bulley-Hewlett
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>Cary, NC USA
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Cotsford [SMTP:Piper109@AOL.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 7:49 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: 4 Cyl VR-6: Maybe Not!!
>
>The 16v VW engines are not known to have a lot of torque but rather develop
>their power high in the rev range. In other words you have to make the
>engines sing before you get the extra benefit of their advanced design.
>For a Vanagon I would have thought that engines that develop healthy torque
>at low RPM would be more suitable.
>Having said that I dont know which among the VW engines would best meet
>that
>description. Probably the Audi 5 cyl.
>A good engine to use would be the 2.7 litre 6 "eta" from BMW which is known
>for high torque and high economy. Whether it could be made to fit of not
>I
>confess to not know. I just have a fondness for the grunt it puts out .
>Just my tuppence worth.
>Steve
>
>
-- David Marshall - - Quesnel, BC, Canada --
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