I agree with Stuart that cable chains are the way to go. They are much easier to install. I have had good luck in backing or driving over them, then connecting the inside cable by reaching around or over the tire--not having to lie down! One thing that makes cable chains better is they have the stiffness of the cable to help keep them "straight" when you are dealing with them, vs link chains that just collapse--and weigh more, too. No rubber tensioners, too--which are always cracked and deteriorating after a few years under the back seat. I used to put studded snow tires on the back, but now just use all weathers (MXTs right now) and don't miss the studs much. I think I've needed chains at the same point with studs and no studs. So my approach is all weather tires, four splash blocks on top of the engine compartment (!!) and chains very rarely when needed. Richard A. Jones Boulder, Colorado '81 Vanagon Mr Bus
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