Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 22:53:06 -0500
Reply-To: Dominique Cormann <kozmik@HOME.COM>
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From: Dominique Cormann <kozmik@HOME.COM>
Subject: Re: Oil for infrequently driven vehicles
In-Reply-To: <386588B3.502D@ns.sympatico.ca>
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Yes for gas engines look for a SJ on the diesel oil. So I far I have yet
to see one that doesn't have a S rating on the bottle as well. At least none
come to mind right now.
PS: The canadian tire product is actually the Esso XD3 line. Thats who
makes it for them. IMHO opinion there are much better products among the
mineral oils. Chevrons delo 400, and petro canada's DURON line are both
group II oils, and are availible to use in canada. Being group II oils
(esso's product is a group I oil), they are much more stable. They can
handle high temps better, and they stay fluid longer in cold temps. They
clean better, produce less deposits...they are just better.
That and you can buy them cheaper then the CTC product to boot.
For mineral diesel oils, the winners are all the ones that are based on
group II oils. All the companies are moving to hydrocracked oils, but
some have made the move sooner then others. Chevron delo, Pennzoils long
life, and Petro Canada's Duron are all great oils. Group II oils cost
about the same to produce, so they can offer a better product with no
cost increase. All these oils would make great oils for an infrequently
used gas car. The extra antiwear additves of diesel oils, are there
because diesel are often used in high load situations. I would say that
the vanagon motors are a high load situation, so this is another area
that diesel oils could help a vanagon.
Chevrons products tend to be the best value since Petrocanada and
Pennzoil both license the technology from Chevron so they must pay a
royalty to use the technology. Because of this chevrons products are
cheaper.
Here are two good articles that talk about how group II and III oils are
the future of mineral based oils.
http://www.truklink.com/articles/te/article0143.html
http://www.theautochannel.com:8080/news/press/date/19990520/press023679.html
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:17:07 -0400
tonyt_eye@ns.sympatico.ca (T. Thompson) wrote:
> Your useful pages reminded me that if you are going to use a diesel lub
> oil to make sure it also has an SJ designation for gasoline engines. The
> lub oil I used came from Canadian Tire under their brand name and has
> the CH4 and SJ designations in the 10-30 oil.
> Tony
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