Date:         Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:53:40 -0800
Reply-To:     David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
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From:         David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Unleaded Regular or Unleaded Premium?
Comments: To: Dana Morphew <kdm@WHIDBEY.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <385FC43D.29012274@whidbey.com>
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The knock sensor ignitions will adjust the timing to a maximum point and
that's all.  Say for example using 87 octane fuel at 3000 RPM the timing is
+25 degrees - on an engine with +6 static timing the actual timing would be
+31.  If you used 94 octane the timing would still be a total of +31 - if
the static timing was set to +12 the total timing with the 94 octane would
would be +37 where is may only be something like +33 with 87 octane due to
engine knock.

As to how much xylene or toluene you have to add - I have no idea - pretty
toxic stuff!



At 10:17 AM 21/12/1999 -0800, Dana Morphew wrote:
>Do all knock sensors adjust the timing through a range of degrees above
>and below the adjusted distributor setting?  Do you know what the range
>is?  How much xylene or toluene would one add to a gallon of 87 octane
>to change it to 92 octane?  I've been adding fuel conditioner at each
>fillup for my diesel Caddy, so this would not be an inconvenience at
>each fill of my Vanagon.  I'll have to check on the cost of xylene and
>toluene to see if there is money to be saved here.  Thanks for the very
>informative post, David.
>
>-Dana-
>
>David Marshall wrote:
>...
>> all done using a 1982 Rabbit Distributor with vacuum advance and vacuum
>> retard - generally considered the best performance non-knock sensor
>> distributor.  If there was a knock sensing ignition present, there would
>> have been no knock as it would have retarded the timing until it
>> disappeared - thus giving you less power.  With 87 octane fuel in a high
>...
>
>

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