Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:14:12 -0800
Reply-To: "Charles \"Luke\" Lukey" <luke@SEANET.COM>
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From: "Charles \"Luke\" Lukey" <luke@SEANET.COM>
Subject: Re: Another warm up strategy
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Reminds me of an old tanker at work recalling his service on the Russian
front - "Yah, we used to keep a little fire going under the engine when we
stopped at night. Russians liked to wake us up with artillery. If the motor
was warm we could get out of the way faster."
A tip for you winter campers!
Charles "Luke" Lukey
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Doran Nugent
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:56 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Another warm up strategy
Tom,
One more method: A friend of mine, winter camping in
Minnesota, positioned a portable camp stove under the
oil pan and ran it for a few minutes to help get the
engine started. Don't try this at home, wouldn't
something explode? Maybe he was pulling my leg.
Your recommendations make perfect sense to me. A
short, gentle warm up, particularly in cold weather,
helps get the oil flowing. But why does my VW Owner's
Manual say, "Warm up idling wastes gas. Start the
engine just before you are ready to drive." They
design the engine to last no more than 100,000 miles.
But just to make sure it doesn't last longer they
recommend no warm up period!
Doran '90 Weekender
--- "Tom L. Neal" <jneal@NETCOM.COM> wrote:
> Any thoughts on these engine warmup strategies
> relative to engine wear?
>
> 1.Start and just drive. Convenient, but high cold
> engine wear.
>
> 2.Start, let idle for 5-10 minutes, then drive.
> In convenient and wastes gas.
>
> 3.Start, listen for the slight engine slowdown that
> takes place in about 5
> to 20 seconds when the cold oil syrup starts flowing
> through the engine,
> then drive off, using a very light foot on the
> accelerator, and as the
> engine warms up, resume normal driving.
>
> This "flow point" is obvious on my Ford, but less so
> on the Vanagon.
>
> A friend recommended this strategy in the
> carbueration days and it seems
> to make sense. He said the engine should not be
> loaded or raced until the
> oil is flowing, but from then on higher loading at
> relatively low RPM's
> warms up the engine much faster, reducing total
> engine warm up wear.
> If the AFM is set properly for about .6v open loop
> voltage from the O2
> sensor, this strategy should work fine for Vanagon
> fuel injection.
>
> 4. Heat the block, then use one of the above.
>
> Cheers, Tom Neal '87 Syncro
>
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