History: 84 westy loses power while driving-top =
speed 60 if
lucky, idled rough, poor mpg(-all intermitently and symptoms would =
temporarily
resolve by turning off key). Numerous new parts, AFM cleaning, =
etc.
Exhaust is all new last year with no cat.
Hypothesis: This condition will not rear it's ugly =
head if I
disconnect the o2 sensor. My power will stay within normal limits =
and my
mpg will greatly improve. Why? I don't know but the van seemed to run =
better
when it was dc'd, so I ordered a new one. Once the correct new o2 =
sensor
was properly installed, the syndrome returned.
Test: (140 mile round-trip to work) The test this =
week
consisted of driving to work once with the sensor connected, then =
refueling and
driving the same road with the o2 sensor dc'd.
Data: trip #1 with o2 sensor connected: 140 =
miles /9.683
gal= 14.46 mpg
trip #2 with o2 sensor dc'd: 140 miles/ 10.316 =
gal=13.57
mpg
One may assume that the van performed better with =
the o2
sensor properly connected. Read on!!!
With the NEW o2 sensor connected, the van would lose =
power
every 10-20 miles to the point where it would pass nobody, it refused to =
go
faster than 60 mph on level highway, 45-50 on a mild incline and this is =
with
the accelerater floored. I stopped three times to temporarily =
breathe some
power back into the beast(by shutting her off), but my average speed =
overall was
about 60 mph. Idle at stop was crap- one foot on the brake, one on =
the
gas.
With the sensor dc'd, I NEVER ONCE LOST POWER =
IN 3 TRIPS
OF 140 MILES EACH. Further, it idled nice and smooth at a
stop, and my average speed was about 72 mph!
This van has NEVER gone the 140 miles without the =
power loss
occurring. Now that the o2 sensor is dc'd, she made it three =
consecutive
trips flawlessly! Coincidence? Not a chance!
Conclusion: Disconnecting the o2 sensor cured 2 =
of 3
problems; namely the power loss and the rough idle. It did NOT =
drastically
improve mpg as expected.
Notes: D/C ing the o2 sensor made a HUGE improvement =
in the
driveability of the vanagon. I liken it to the difference in =
driving an
old splitty verses a modern machine. The 02 sensor gives the van =
that
vintage feel of no power and the constant hope for a downhill grade or a =
slow
semi-truck to draft. It's kinda embarrassing and I think people =
snicker at
the slow van.
I made every attempt to minimize variables and limit =
it only
to dc ing the o2 sensor ie same fuel, same road, same =
everything.
The decrease in mpg with the sensor disconnected is =
misleading
since I was able to go 72 mph(13.57 mpg) verses 60 mph(14.46 =
mpg). At
less then 1 mpg difference, I think the fuel economy is actually better =
with the
sensor dc'd, but I can test that later.
I was truly hoping the fuel economy would improve by =
dc ing
the o2 sensor. I'd like to know what is "average" for a 84 =
westy.
Average-as in across the board if you toss out the 10 % that are =
excessively
high and the 10% that are excessively low.
End result in mpg testing is that when my family =
goes to
Florida next week, we have to take the 97 Suburban now because the mpg =
is
better...(wife giving her victory snicker in background).
Question: If the o2 sensor gives the ecu feedback =
and (yadda
yadda) gives you the best mpg, AND I am comfortable with the very =
minimal mpg
loss with it dc'd, can I run without it forever without hurting anything =
since
it drastically improves the driveability as above???
I can't wait to hear the thoughts of the =
list.
Jay in Seymour Indiana