Okay, so I walk into a small auto parts store. The have one bottle of redline oil, but not the kind I need. So I ask him can he order it? Only by case. Okay. Then he tells me about Synergy, that its better than Redline, that its the only synthetic oil approved by NASCAR, that it improves your gas mileage, that he put it in his truck and got an improvement of 3 or 4 miles per gallon. Okay.

Is he full of it? Has he been smoking dope? Does he just want my money? Or is this what my vanagon has been looking for?



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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 05:40:32 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: H & R springs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, Thanks to the generosity of a fellow listee, I now have a set of H&R springs to try on my 87 GL. I'm interested in people's impression of these springs rear springs 29 951 HA 7/99 (probably manufacturing date) front springs 29 951 VA 7/99 They appear powder-coated a reddish purple w/ the part numbers in white letters. Any info will be appreciated. Thanks, BenT ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:52:16 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: Diesel Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Isn't "Diesel Performance" an oxymoron? >> >Only if you exclude factors like efficiency and reliablility from the >definition of "performance". To the former...only if you're talking VW 1600 diesel Vanagons. To the latter... try Nissan, Mazda or Mitsubishi diesels or Toyota turbodiesels. Then again, better not, you'd regret it big time! Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:52:37 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: third brake light Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I'd like to put a brake-light behind the VW eblem on the tail gate with >the VW emblem over it. That'd be classy For my 66 Split I cut out card VW symbols and fitted them inside the taillights' lower (running/brake) compartment and in the front indicators. Not really noticable during the day, but OK at night. A VW symbol could easily be made by installing red superbright LEDs in the shape of a VW symbol, either by drilling the tailgate and fitting the LEDs directly into the sheetmetal or by making a black plastic (fiberglass?) fitting inside the rear window and fitting the LEDs into this. Make the LED circuit in series... a smaller cheaper pot needed than fitting them in parallel. A resistor can be used to adjust brightness. Include a few blue LEDs for a "blue-dot" purple effect (blue LEDs are expensive and dimmer than other colors). If I do build (strip?) a Bugaru roadster, I will use LEDs to make indicators and taillights, fitted into the steerable fiberglass front fenders and rears, as well as probably the A-pillars and front & rear lid edges. I've been thinking about color-selectable dimmable LEDs for some time now for custom backlit white-faced instruments. Any light mounted in the rear window should be sealed to the glass, or light will leak out and cause a distraction in thre rear-view mirror. Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:52:46 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: 14" 15" and 16" oh my! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 06:44 PM 5/4/2001, Mark Dorm wrote: >>I'd like to add to this inquiry. How many 15 inchers are out there and what >>are you doing for rubber? > >Oh dear...not very many, I believe. I saw one once and it looked like a >serious impediment to me. As to the rubber, I believe that would be a >special order. Might require the Russian Nyet-skid radial-ply con... er... rubber. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 05:30:12 -0500 Reply-To: Mark Ingalls Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Ingalls Subject: Weekender fold-down bed in brown checked? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C0D524.74E0C380" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C0D524.74E0C380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Volks, Anybody know the chances of finding a weekender fold-down rear seat for = a golden beige 85 GL? =20 It has the brown checked pattern. Thanks, Mark Ingalls 85 GL 75 Beetle ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C0D524.74E0C380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Volks,
 
Anybody know the chances of finding a = weekender=20 fold-down rear seat for a golden beige 85 GL? 
 
It has the brown checked = pattern.
 
Thanks, Mark Ingalls
85 GL
75 Beetle
------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C0D524.74E0C380-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:50:27 +1000 Reply-To: Ray Hunnam Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Ray Hunnam Subject: Re: ISO Sliding Window Latch Comments: To: Stephen.Fry@bankofamerica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen There was a post recently from someone wanting to know how to take the sliding window apart. Can you post the details of how the window comes apart. Ray Hunnam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Fry" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 5:22 AM Subject: ISO Sliding Window Latch > Subject says it all. I am looking for a latch for an 85 Westfalia sliding > glass window. Took mine apart and over time lost some of the parts. I need a > replacement to beautify my van. Thanks for the help > Stephen > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:49:56 -0400 Reply-To: Joe Romas Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Romas Subject: Re: Pressurized Cooling Sys./Cyl. Head Comments: To: Gary Stearns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0438_01C0D540.5C0C5830" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0438_01C0D540.5C0C5830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gary There are also metal rings between the heads and sleeves. As I see = it the metal rings seal the combustion chamber and the little green "O" = rings seal the cooling system. Joe ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary Stearns=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Pressurized Cooling Sys./Cyl. Head I've concluded that my head is leaking exhaust into the coolant. I = still have our prior engine kicking around with heads removed. I took a = look to remind myself of how the cylinder barrels seal to the head to = prevent this kind of leakage. What I found was a recess in the head the = the barrel fits into, and a ridiculously tiny insignificant little "o" = ring around the barrel to seal it. Is that it? There seems to be no = sealant or gasket material at all where the barrel seats against the = head! Could my repair be as simple (!) as removing the head and = replacing this little "o" ring, or is it likely that I'm actually = looking at a cracked head? Do these "o"rings fail? This is a rebuilt = engine w/ about 20k on it. Gary 2 down and maybe no more to go. Considering the TiiCo solution. ------=_NextPart_000_0438_01C0D540.5C0C5830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gary
 
    There are also metal = rings=20 between the heads and sleeves. As I see it the metal rings seal the = combustion chamber and the little green "O" rings seal the cooling=20 system.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary=20 Stearns
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:57 = PM
Subject: Pressurized Cooling = Sys./Cyl.=20 Head

I've concluded that my head is = leaking exhaust=20 into the coolant.   I still have our prior engine kicking = around=20 with heads removed.  I took a look to remind myself of how the = cylinder=20 barrels seal to the head to prevent this kind of leakage.  What I = found=20 was a recess in the head the the barrel fits into, and a ridiculously = tiny=20 insignificant little "o" ring around the barrel to seal it.  Is = that it?=20 There seems to be no sealant or gasket material at all where the = barrel seats=20 against the head!   Could my repair be as simple (!) as = removing the=20 head and replacing this little "o" ring, or is it likely that I'm = actually=20 looking at a cracked head?  Do these "o"rings fail?  This is = a=20 rebuilt engine w/ about 20k on it.
Gary
2 down and maybe no more to go.  = Considering=20 the TiiCo solution.
------=_NextPart_000_0438_01C0D540.5C0C5830-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:07:54 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: FS: single captains chair w/ adjustable armrests, grey velour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ab.94ca632.2825633a_boundary" --part1_ab.94ca632.2825633a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fits all vans. nice shape. email me if interested chris --part1_ab.94ca632.2825633a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fits all vans.  nice shape.

email me if interested
chris
--part1_ab.94ca632.2825633a_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:12:39 EDT Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@aol.com Subject: Re: 14" 15" and 16" oh my! Comments: To: webmaster@beachin.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_5a.150dc1bc.28256457_boundary" --part1_5a.150dc1bc.28256457_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 15" SA Alloy rims on my '91 Carat Vanagon. I am running BF Goodrich TAs that are 215 65 R15. I love them! Got the tires from www.tirerack.com for like $85 each plus shipping. Got the rims from me :) Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_5a.150dc1bc.28256457_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 15" SA Alloy rims on my '91 Carat Vanagon.  I am running BF Goodrich
TAs that are 215 65 R15.  I love them!  Got the tires from www.tirerack.com
for like $85 each plus shipping.  Got the rims from me :)

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
--part1_5a.150dc1bc.28256457_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:21:47 EDT Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@aol.com Subject: Re: H & R springs Comments: To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cd.6271e61.2825667b_boundary" --part1_cd.6271e61.2825667b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben, the biggest mistake that people make when installing lowered springs is not also installing shocks that are setup for the springs. The catalogs I have for H & R springs or any other type always says, in really small print, "only recommended if installed with matching shocks". So when people put these on that complain that the ride is terrible. Of course it is because the shocks are hitting the stops before the can go normal travel for the springs. So my recommendation is that you get a set of shocks that is setup for the springs before you install them or you are going to be disappointed. Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_cd.6271e61.2825667b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben, the biggest mistake that people make when installing lowered springs is
not also installing shocks that are setup for the springs.  The catalogs I
have for H & R springs or any other type always says, in really small print,
"only recommended if installed with matching shocks".  So when people put
these on that complain that the ride is terrible.  Of course it is because
the shocks are hitting the stops before the can go normal travel for the
springs.  So my recommendation is that you get a set of shocks that is setup
for the springs before you install them or you are going to be disappointed.

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
--part1_cd.6271e61.2825667b_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:33:27 EDT Reply-To: DieterKnittel@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: Call from Springfield,MO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, This Message is for the Person, ( witch name i Forgot ) This here is Dieter with that 1986 Vanagon GL 2.1. You have called me I think on past monday, and said you wanted to come down on saturday, to take a look at my Van and check it out. Im still waiting for your call so i can give you direction please call me as soon as you can. Thanks Dieter 417 -338 9349 home 339 9810 cell Dieter Knittel 86 Vanagon GL 2.1 standart ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:40:45 EDT Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@aol.com Subject: Vanagon 15" Alloy Rims Sale on Seconds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_87.aa2e158.28256aed_boundary" --part1_87.aa2e158.28256aed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am down to my last three sets of Sunburst Alloy Rims. These are 15" x 6.5" Factory VW rims from South Africa. However these rims are a little more scratched than what I would call "minor". The scratches are on the face of the rim and noticeable. However the rims are straight and are functionally fine. Also the scratches would not be noticable from 10 feet away from the van and wouldn't take away from the overall effect of the rims. I am asking $180 each for these rims. As I said I only have three sets of 4 left (I have one extra) so if you want them at this price please email me or call me ASAP. Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_87.aa2e158.28256aed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am down to my last three sets of Sunburst Alloy Rims.  These are 15" x 6.5"
Factory VW rims from South Africa.  However these rims are a little more
scratched than what I would call "minor".  The scratches are on the face of
the rim and noticeable.  However the rims are straight and are functionally
fine.  Also the scratches would not be noticable from 10 feet away from the
van and wouldn't take away from the overall effect of the rims.  I am asking
$180 each for these rims.  
As I said I only have three sets of 4 left (I have one extra) so if you want
them at this price please email me or call me ASAP.


Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
--part1_87.aa2e158.28256aed_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:43:23 -0300 Reply-To: 86 Westfalia Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: 86 Westfalia Subject: Re: Spring startup Comments: To: Phil Menchions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0D558.96E98AA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0D558.96E98AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I just retrieved our Westy from storage last weekend. It was stored in = an unheated barn here in Nova Scotia. I too had just put a new battery = into it this past Autumn. I also asked the list about three weeks if = there was anything that I should do before starting it, but the best = advice Ireceived was from a friend here in Halifax (with suporting = adivce from Frank Condelli in Almonte). Before I left I threw into our pickup an extra battery, jumper cables = and a few tools I needed for reconnecting the battery. =20 *I checked and wrote down the radio code before leaving the house! When I got there I checked under the engine for leaks. Reconnected the = battery. Then I pulled the middle wire of the distributor cap out. = Turned the engine over for a few seconds. In my mind this helped throw = some oil around without starting the engine. Reconnected the = distributor and then started the engine. Loud and clacky valves at = first, but after about 15 minutes it smoothed out and quieted down. = Drove at a moderate speed all the way home (45 mins or so). No problem. Next winter I am going to pull the battery out and take it home. Near = the end of the winter someone got me worried by saying that it might = have cracked if it froze. Have fun! Dan DJ Landry 86 Westfalia Bedford, Nova Scotia Canada ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Phil Menchions=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: Spring startup Hi volks: Can somebody provide a few spring startup tips other than the usual = fluid level checks. I tried the archives several times to no avail. My van has been parked all winter with the battery disconnected. It = was a new one installed last spring so it should be still ok. Regards, Phil '89 Westy ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0D558.96E98AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I just retrieved our Westy from storage = last=20 weekend.  It was stored in an unheated barn here in Nova = Scotia.  I=20 too had just put a new battery into it this past Autumn.  I also = asked the=20 list about three weeks if there was anything that I should do before = starting=20 it, but the best advice Ireceived was from a friend here in Halifax = (with=20 suporting adivce from Frank Condelli in Almonte).
 
Before I left I threw into our pickup = an extra=20 battery, jumper cables and a few tools I needed for reconnecting the=20 battery. 
*I checked and wrote down the radio = code before=20 leaving the house!
 
When I got there I checked under the = engine for=20 leaks.  Reconnected the battery.  Then I pulled the middle=20 wire of the distributor cap out.  Turned the engine over for a = few=20 seconds.  In my mind this helped throw some oil around without = starting the engine.  Reconnected the distributor and then started = the=20 engine.  Loud and clacky valves at first, but after about 15 = minutes=20 it smoothed out and quieted down.  Drove at a moderate speed all = the way=20 home (45 mins or so).  No problem.
 
Next winter I am going to pull the = battery out and=20 take it home.  Near the end of the winter someone got me worried by = saying=20 that it might have cracked if it froze.
 
Have fun!
 
Dan
 
DJ Landry
86 Westfalia
Bedford, Nova Scotia
Canada
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Phil=20 Menchions
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 = 12:30=20 PM
Subject: Spring startup

Hi volks:
 
Can somebody provide a few spring = startup=20 tips  other than the usual fluid level checks. I tried the = archives=20 several times to no avail.
 
My van has been parked all winter = with the=20 battery disconnected. It was a new one installed last spring so it = should be=20 still ok.
 
Regards,
 
Phil
'89 = Westy
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0D558.96E98AA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:55:53 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: mark_hb@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't put any additives in my oil or gas. I've been using Penzoil since 1958, I've never lost an engine or had any problems. I run 8 oz of Marvel Mystery oil with my oil for a few days before each oil change to clean lifters and remove gum that builds up inside pistons and crankcases. I use fuel additives only when I suspect water in my fuel. FuFu juice is a really great high profit business most FuFu is used to hide some problem when a seller wants to disguise a problem with an old clunker. You cannot chemically repair any broken or worn parts with FuFu juice. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:47:19 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: ISO Sliding Window Latch Comments: To: hunnam@pnc.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The little sliding door latch has a screw up through the bottom. You need a little 90 Degree straight slot screwdriver to get at the screw. Be careful when it comes off there is a little spring that will fall out as the lastch comes off dis-assembled. That's it. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled On Sat, 5 May 2001 20:50:27 +1000 Ray Hunnam writes: > Stephen > > There was a post recently from someone wanting to know how to take > the > sliding window apart. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:03:40 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: Diesel Performance Comments: To: andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're going to fine you $2.00 for using those two words in the same sentece. On Sat, 5 May 2001 22:52:16 +1200 Andrew Grebneff writes: > >>Isn't "Diesel Performance" an oxymoron? > >> > Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air-cooled ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:05:18 EDT Reply-To: JohnHJhouser@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Houser Subject: Help with Engine Skip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.b3fe894.282570ae_boundary" --part1_2d.b3fe894.282570ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks, I am slowly trying to get my early 1984 Westy roadworthy. It has an engine skip that won't go away and after running for about ten minutes, it just quits. After sitting overnight, it will crank up with no problems. It also loses power at about 5 mph in 1st, 20 mph in second, 35 mph in 3d and 49 mph in 4th. Is the second problem a symptom of a bad AFM? I feel like the skip is spark related because, after it dies, I smell gas when I try to crank it. Has anyone had these symptons and what did you do to fix it? TIA, John --part1_2d.b3fe894.282570ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks,

I am slowly trying to get my early 1984 Westy roadworthy.  It has an engine
skip that won't go away and after running for about ten minutes, it just
quits.  After sitting overnight, it will crank up with no problems.  It also
loses power at about 5 mph in 1st, 20 mph in second, 35 mph in 3d and 49 mph
in 4th.  Is the second problem a symptom of a bad AFM?

I feel like the skip is spark related because, after it dies, I smell gas
when I try to crank it.  Has anyone had these symptons and what did you do to
fix it?

TIA,
John
















--part1_2d.b3fe894.282570ae_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:08:37 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com In-Reply-To: Stan Wilder 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 09:55:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Stan, I just have a question. If in fact you put Marvel in your oil just prior to you changing the oil, why don't you, just run it all the time? You have no idea, of how clean this stuff keeps the inside of your engine. It keeps the rings spinning free, keeps the lifters super-clean. I have used this stuff for years and have found it to be one of the best all round things you can do for your engine. I run it in my gas, when I'm going on a road trip, to lubricate, the valve stems and guides, and it also helps keep the injectors clean. Later, ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:12:24 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com In-Reply-To: Stan Wilder 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 09:55:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Stan, Just another thought------- And why only 8 oz's.? I substitute 1 quart of marvel for 1 quart of oil. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:19:07 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Ex Mercedes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many years ago I purchased a 1956 Mercedes 190SL Convertible. It was a very pretty car and quite expensive compared to the average American made cars at the time. This has to go down as the second worst car I've ever owned (first worst GMC Diesel pickup1980) it seemed to have a hex on it or something. The ring and pinion failed, very rare. The dual carburetors were impossible to tune. It didn't stop very well. It was one of the first with an overhead cam and the valves needed adjusting regularly as the drive chain or the glider shoes on the chain wore. I think you've got the picture. One day I had my girlfriend take me to the dealership to pick up the car and it wasn't ready so I took off walking down the service bay. My girlfriend, walking behind me, noticed the car before I did and she commented "Gee that car must be broke a lot, they have a service stall named Stan". The car was broke a good portion of the time but the mechanic occupying the stall was also named Stan. As luck would have it they were waiting for parts so I didn't get my car that day. That evening my girlfriend and I were at an Exxon station and there was a 190sl Mercedes there in the drive. We were driving my girlfriends Pontiac and while paying for my gas at the cashiers counter my girlfriend commented that there was Mercedes in the drive. The man standing behind us started talking and was just beaming with pride saying, "that's a Mercedes 190sl, it's quite a car, I just love, and it's really fun to drive and Yada Yada so forth" I turned and said "really?" He said "yes" I said "I always wondered what mine would look like, hardly ever seen it with the hood closed". ---------------------------------------- One sunny afternoon my brother and I were riding around in the 190SL with no particular destination in mind and I turned onto a nice winding road to take some corners. My brother noticed a Triumph TR4 in front of us about two hundred yards away. There was a blond and a brunette in the car and being young men we weren't going to be satisfied until we got a better look at the women in that sports car and sports car owners were generally friendly people. We put on the chase but the Triumph was really hard to catch, they apparently were enjoying the mild joy of making some corners too. In the few minutes devoted to the case my brother mentioned that he'd take the brunette driving and I could have the blond. My heart racing and my Mercedes straining we raced to catch up to the Triumph after they turned back on to a heavily traveled boulevard. We caught up with them at about the third red light and my blond turned out to be a Russian wolfhound with long blond hair. ------------------------------ Another sunny afternoon my brother and I were cruising the exclusive part of Dallas called Highland Park. As we were almost always exceeding the speed limits there were often times when we would only catch a glimpse of events around us. On this particular day I noticed something lying next to the curb and commented that it looked like someone had lost a fur coat. Were we going pretty fast so rather than stopping and backing up we just made the block and came back around to the same spot. My brother was driving and he geared the transmission down so we were going about eight to ten miles an hour in second gear, I leaned out of the car as far as I could and grabbed the fur as we passed. Well folks that wasn't a fur coat, it was a big black chow dog and boy I got to tell you he was some mad a being dragged from his sleeping place next to the curb, not to mention that I was holding a hand full of his fur in my hand. I'm yelling at my brother to speed up and he's not responding fast enough for me, I deliver the message that the fur was a badass chow dog and he's trying to come into the car with us. He was pushing throttle, changing gears and laughing and after the better part of a long block the chow dog just gave it up! Stan Wilder 83Westfalia Air Cooled ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:18:04 -0700 Reply-To: Brian Cochran Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian Cochran Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite long) Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm going to be a wilderness ranger in the E. Sierras this summer, and when I'm not in the woods, I'll be living out of my vanagon. Afterwards, once I return to disease-covered puget sound, I'm going to sell the vanagon. Because I'm tired of being hexed with it. Thanks for the reply. B >From: wilden1@juno.com >To: rangerbrian@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. >(quite long) >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:13:01 -0500 > >Many years ago I purchased a 1956 Mercedes 190SL Convertible. > >It was a very pretty car and quite expensive compared to the average >American made cars at the time. > >This has to go down as the second worst car I've ever owned (first worst >GMC Diesel pickup1980) it seemed to have a hex on it or something. The >ring and pinion failed, very rare. The dual carburetors were impossible >to tune. It didn't stop very well. It was one of the first with an >overhead cam and the valves needed adjusting regularly as the drive chain >or the glider shoes on the chain wore. > >I think you've got the picture. > >One day I had my girlfriend take me to the dealership to pick up the car >and it wasn't ready so I took off walking down the service bay. My >girlfriend, walking behind me, noticed the car before I did and she >commented "Gee that car must be broke a lot, they have a service stall >named Stan". > >The car was broke a good portion of the time but the mechanic occupying >the stall was also named Stan. > >As luck would have it they were waiting for parts so I didn't get my car >that day. > >That evening my girlfriend and I were at an Exxon station and there was a >190sl Mercedes there in the drive. > >We were driving my girlfriends Pontiac and while paying for my gas at the >cashiers counter my girlfriend commented that there was Mercedes in the >drive. > >The man standing behind us started talking and was just beaming with >pride saying, "that's a Mercedes 190sl, it's quite a car, I just love, >and it's really fun to drive and Yada Yada so forth" > >I turned and said "really?" > >He said "yes" > >I said "I always wondered what mine would look like, hardly ever seen it >with the hood closed". > >Stan Wilder >83Westfalia Air Cooled _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:49:04 -0400 Reply-To: Jim Henry Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Jim Henry Organization: JCH GIS Subject: diesel performance? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find the current thread on diesel performance very timely, in as much as I am considering buying a diesel camper on the west coast while there on a trip this summer. The person that has volunteered to inspect it for me, also was somewhat discouraging about the ability of a diesel to move from place to place in a reasonable manner, especially long distances in the West . My idea is to buy the van, go to my daughter's in southwest Oregon, visit my brother in Montana, and bonsai back to NC, hopefully not leaving a VW camper somewhere in between. Pretty hare brain, huh. So the point is, is there anyone in the Raleigh/Durham, central NC, Charlotte, NC area with a standard 1.6 diesel that would let me ride and perhaps drive it before I spend any more energy on this hare brained idea. That's right, I have never ridden or driven a diesel vanagon and I am thinking about buying one. Well I had never driven or ridden in a vanagon, period or even seen the one that I currently own, before I bought it. But it was a deal you could not let go by. Sort of like the guy who saw the add in the paper for the Porsche for $50.... So NC diesel owners, burst my bubble or keep me dreaming. Any other comments would be appreciated. Jim -- Jim and Lois Henry Durham, NC www.jchgis.com (Jim) dull work stuff www.foxcarving.com (Lois) really neat stuff 84 GSL-SE 85 GSL-SE (parts car) 84 Vanagon Westfalia camper 95 Oldsmobile Aurora 93 Geo Prism 87 RX7 na jch@jchgis.com lkhenry@vnet.net ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:24:01 -0700 Reply-To: Brian Cochran Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian Cochran Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite long) Comments: To: zol@foxinternet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed No, I'm not sure what the problem was or IS...... All I'm saying is that after rod bearings, relief valve, tune-up, heads, workworkwork, I'm not getting the oil light now. I DID get the oil light after replacing the relief valve and spring, so that didn't do anything as far as I'm concerned. My thoughts deep down is that the mains are worn, but they're hanging in there with all the new parts. But who knows???? When my engine is cool, it's happy. I think the cat will help that out. Brian >From: "Zoltan" >To: "Brian Cochran" >Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, > etc. (quite long) >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:14:41 -0700 > >Brian, >are you saying that the problem all along was the oil pressure relief >valve? >Zoltan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Cochran" >To: >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 5:41 PM >Subject: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite >long) > > > > Oil Pressure Woes and how they over-ran my life this winter. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:32:47 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: CTONLINE@webtv.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One aspirin a day is good for you. Two is too many. Why dilute your oil from 10w/30 to something less. On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:12:24 -0500 (CDT) CTONLINE@webtv.net writes: > Stan, > Just another thought------- > > And why only 8 oz's.? > > I substitute 1 quart of marvel for 1 quart of oil. > > ______________ > |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ > | | | | > ||-(())----(())-| > > > Terry > 74 Westy (Clementine) > 85 GL > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:30:29 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: CTONLINE@webtv.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fairly simple question, it all comes out to cost exactly the same. I've got exactly the idea after doing this for 40 years. 71 MG Midget 204K 83 Cadillac 276K 83 Westfalia Air cooled 256K There have also been ten to fifteen other vehicles in my garage over the years not excluding bunches of motorcycles, boats. A fleet of trucks, i really can't relate on the miles but never an engine failure since 1962. Only 1 engine replacement in 1969 1 1/2 truck in 1992 but not a failure just worn out. On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:08:37 -0500 (CDT) CTONLINE@webtv.net writes: > Stan, > I just have a question. > If in fact you put Marvel in your oil just prior to you changing the > oil, why don't you, just run it all the time? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:37:53 -0400 Reply-To: Derek Drew Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Derek Drew Subject: CV Joint Protectors MAJOR SYNCRO POST Comments: To: Syncro@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There has been some discussion on the list lately about the quality of aftermarket vs. factory-original front CV Joint boot protectors. In this email I will clear up some confusion, provide some analysis of which one to get, and also provide list members with the least expensive method of purchasing either type of protector. I will also discuss the European belt guards, and some other parts further down in this email. A photo comparing the factory original and aftermarket CV Boot protectors is also provided. As our more attentive syncro owners know by now, the factory introduced the CV Joint boot protector into production in January of 1990 in order to protect the front CV joint boots from rocks, sticks and other road and off-road hazards. The goal is worthy because the front CV Joint boots are very exposed, and I have on many occasions before wondered what could be done to better protect these boots from puncture and tearing. Volkswagen/SDP began installing the protectors as a regular feature of the vehicle in all 16" syncros and the 14" syncros with "heavy duty running gear" so clearly the factory saw a need for them. As far as I know, none of the heavy duty vehicles were sold in North America and so and none of our North American vans had the protectors. In fact, none of us knew much about the CV Joint Boot protectors until about two years ago after Phil Lander started writing about them. Steve Schwenk picked up the thread and there were some excellent initial postings about these last Fall. More information about these CV joint protectors is on this page of Phil Landers's http://www.ozemail.com.au/~pjlander/CV_Boot_Protectors.htm and the factory instructions for fitting them are at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~pjlander/images/instruct.jpg. I have received many emails from European Syncro owners asking whether we have them here in the USA and are we aware of them. They make so much sense and cost relatively little, that they are becoming something of a rage among syncro owners. Unfortunately, if you go to a VW dealer in North America and try to order a set, you are going to get a "part not found" response and a pat on the back as you walk out the door. So until recently, we have been out of luck if we wanted to add one. Some enterprising soul in Europe has now begun self manufacturing these CV Joint protectors, and these non-factory versions are similar. You can see a picture of the difference between the OEM flap and the aftermarket flap that I took here: http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/CV_Joint_Protectors_Factory_And_Aftermarket.jpg If you look closely at the picture, you will see the factory flap on the right, and the aftermarket flap on the left. The points that are noticeable from studying these flaps are that the factory flap has slightly thicker metal that seems more robust, although not by a large margin. The factory flap has smooth rounded metal edges instead of the aftermarket edges which look like they were cut sharply out of a sheet. The factory flap material is more flexible and supple, whereas the aftermarket flap appears to be made from hard rubber cut out of a rubber sheet with an exacto knife or heavy shears. Visually, the factory flap material is much more appealing. Because of the metal thickness issue and the hardness of the flap material which gives the protector less give, I had the impression that under stress the aftermarket protector might have a greater tendency to bend or break but this is only conjecture at this point. Which protector would a better buy? It is a close call. After thinking about it and comparing the prices ($160 vs. $130 delivered--see below), I will be installing the factory original protector myself. But I think the case is not clear cut, and the aftermarket protector is also a reasonable choice for price-conscious purchasers. FACTORY PROTECTOR PRICES Recently (about four weeks ago), a list member offered to supply factory CV joint protectors to us for $250 for the set and another list member is rumored to be selling them for $300 for a set. The best price that is likely to be available for factory protectors at this point for us is about $190 or so, including the shipping expenses from Europe. It was nice to hear that they could at least still be had as there have been supply problems with Europe. That is, people would order them at the VAG dealer in Europe, and then they would not come for extended periods. I ordered an initial set, and there was a four month delay between the arrival of the right side and the left side, for example. More recently, there has been a price increase in Europe so they are getting more expensive. Meanwhile, as some list members are aware, I have developed connections to non-standard sources of syncro parts in Europe. I am able to arrange a list purchase of the factory original protectors at a price of $160 per pair, including all shipping expense, customs duty, and shipping to you within the USA or Canada. This is by far the cheapest price you are likely to be able to find. AFTERMARKET PROTECTOR PRICES The aftermarket protectors are available from FLO for a price of $95 plus $45 shipping, according to an email we received from FLO yesterday, which would make the total about $140. Meanwhile, I have three sets of the aftermarket protectors for sale, including local shipping to you in North America, for a price of $130 for each set. The lower price is because I ordered several sets at the same time, and there is a corresponding reduction in the shipping expense. This should be, therefore, close to the lowest price at which you can obtain the aftermarket CV Joint protector. PRICE ANALYSIS OF THE CHOICE Given the small difference in price between $160 and $130 I'd lean toward getting the factory protector. But I think spending $130 on the aftermarket protector is also reasonable. Supply issues may make the choice for some, as the supply of the aftermarket protectors is more immediate, at least from me. If you are in a hurry, and you want only the factory protector, and cannot wait to have it, try David Marshall at www.fastforward.ca as he tends to import things like this for his store but you will need to get a separate price him him. SUPPLY TIMING ESTIMATE TO GET THEM FROM ME 1st three aftermarket protectors: immediate additional aftermarket protectors: 5 weeks 1st six factory original protectors: 5 weeks additional factory original protectors: 3 months Payment can be by www.paypal.com to derekdrew@rcn.com or via personal check to Derek Drew, 5467 31st Street NW, Washington, DC 20015. If you would like, you can ask me for a timing estimate before sending funds. If you would like to obtain the protectors at these prices ($130 or $160), simply send me payment either by paypal or by mail, and if you like, you can print out this email and send it along. ANSWER TO AN INSTALLATION ISSUE (Front Axle Nuts) Bill Davidson asked the list about the issue of the front axle nut for syncro. Thus nut is an "always replace" nut in the manual, which means that every time you take it off (which you do to install the CV Joint boot protector, Bill says) you are supposed to throw it out and put on a brand new. This can get expensive for syncro owners because the price of the nut at the dealer is about $8. When replacing this nut, it pays to be careful because most aftermarket replacements are only 1/2 the thickness and do not inspire confidence. I would personally not install many of the the aftermarket nuts that come with front outer cv joint boot kits you get from Parts Place ($50) or Bus Depot ($17!!) (same kit from what I could see last time I looked a few years ago). that is, I take a skeptical view of the tiny LOBRO nut that is typically supplied for the front axle, and recommend that Syncro owners use either a factory nut ($8ish each) or order a pile of them from Mr. Metric (1-408-286-8816) as I did ($2.25 each). The Mr. Metric part number is 50416, 20 x 1.5 Allmetal w/collar vendor code 1006, Lot number 507004 from Bossard DIN 980v BN6867. Mr. Metric said I had to order 50 but they only sent me 20. Most professional mechanics on the list, by the way, don't have time or inclination to be replacing "always replace" items in the manual, and will tell you that they simply re-use the nuts and use loctite on them. The nuts are "always replace" because they are slightly crushed to have a locking action. I am going to use my $2.25 Mr. Metric nuts for awhile since I have them. Later, if I become more of a professional, perhaps I will begin reusing nuts the factory says not to reuse. ============================== END CV JOINT PROTECTOR SECTION ============================== VISCOUS COUPLINGS For those of you who have been waiting for the next round of viscous couplings, they are due in a few weeks time. I will make an announcement at that time. I have been looking at the weights that have been installed on these. All the VCs have weights welded on the side to assure a perfect balance and it strikes me that this has more importance than we have previously notified, going by the great lengths the factory seems to have gone to get it right. There are somewhere around 20 different weights, and they are welded at precise locations. BELT GUARDS I have also managed to import some of the so-called European-Only "Belt Guards" that were manufactured by VW as extra protection for the belts in the engine compartment from rocks getting wedged up in there. For some reason, they introduced these belt guards in Europe but never seem to have got around to putting them into production for North American Spec vehicles. I put a picture of the belt guards up on the web here: http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/beltguards1.jpg and http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/beltguards2.jpg. The cost to get a set of the Belt Guards from me (including postage within North America) is $23. These are available elsewhere on the list for $50, according to a quotation I received from another list member offering to sell them for that amount. If ordering with another part, such a the CV Joint protectors, deduct $8 for packing and shipping. The purpose of both the Belt Guards and the CV joint boot protectors is to decrease the probability your vehicle will need mechanical attention while you are on a long trip by reducing the probability of rock, stick, or abrasion damage coming up from underneath. 16" REAR TRAILING ARMS To participants in the purchase of 16" rear trailing arms: these are now all in the mail. There is one extra set available to whomever wants it from this purchase that is available so if you think you want one of these, send me an email. The price is $1,250 plus local postage (another vendor on the list quoted me $1,750). They enable mounting of very large tires. There is a picture of them here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels,%20Tires%20&%20Gearing/Wheel%20&%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg At this time I believe I am the best source for the following syncro factory parts: Belt Guards -- $23 http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/beltguards1.jpg , http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/beltguards2.jpg CV Joint Boot Guards -- OEM $160 or aftermarket $130 http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/CV_Joint_Protectors_Factory_And_Aftermarket.jpg Viscous Couplings -- Email me for an information package 16" Rear Trailing Arms --$1,250 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels,%20Tires%20&%20Gearing/Wheel%20&%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg 6.17 and 5.83 Ring & Pinions -- http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/ringandpinions1.jpg or check with www.2weddle.com on this. Many European-only factory-OEM-only parts -- email me the part number for a quotation. I speak your language and won't send you aftermarket parts without telling you. :-) The contents of this email, or suitable sub-sections of it by permission, may be reproduced and posted to other syncro and vanagon related websites. The photo of the difference between the two CV joint protectors may also be so posted, provided the photo is accompanied by the text. ________________________________________________________ Derek Drew New York, NY & Washington, DC derekdrew@rcn.com 212-580-6486 Email me for viscous couplings '90 Syncro Westfalia... ...seen off-road at http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm Note: most valuable Vanagon sites on the planet (for owners) are: http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro http://www.vanagon.com http://www.syncro.org My refrigerator article: http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm My article that shows how to deal with insurance companies: ftp://gerry.vanagon.com/pub/auto-insurance-madness.html To view Wolfgang's incredibly informative wheel article http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm To view Tim Smith's incredibly useful gearing calculator http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls To view some 16" Trailing Arms that enable much larger tires see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncro-org/files/Wheels%2C%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:50:12 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: gripes, etc. Comments: To: rangerbrian@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Start advertizing it now. Families less wise than you are looking for them. National parks are getting into full swing and the birds are singing. I think it's based on the greater fool thoery like the stock market "some fool will always pay more than you did". Try to make a few bucks! By the way. I'd never own one of these things as a single mode of transportation. My has never left me stranded but old equipment should be a hobby, not a mainstay. On Sat, 05 May 2001 08:31:19 -0700 "Brian Cochran" writes: > Hey thanks for the feedback! those are neat rigs (the pic), but 10 > mpg....NO WAY. Mark my words, gas is going to keep increasing to > level out > with those euro prices. when I get out of the vanagon business, > I'm > getting a diesel jetta - 49 mpg. > B > > >From: wilden1@juno.com > >To: rangerbrian@HOTMAIL.COM > >CC: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, > etc. > >(quite long) > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:10:00 -0500 > > > >I must admit Brian Cochran, thats a heart wrenching story and > you're a > >pretty good writer. > > > >I have an 83 Aircooled Westfalia and I visit a lot of auto wrecking > yards > >throughout my travels. I find really great looking water-cooled > Vanagons > >sitting in these yards that look like you could just get in them > and > >drive off. Most come in nearly complete with the engine partially > >dis-assembled and sitting in the rear deck I find the heads and a > bunch > >of coolant lines. It is aparrent that the owners of these vans were > >caring owners because they have nice paint and interiors and > sometimes > >almost new tires. > > > >I also have an 86 Oldsmobile, this is a true $700.00 car and I'd > scrap it > >if it cost $700.00 to repair. > > > >But I'm also the victom of the vehicle with my 83 Westfalia, I paid > >$2000.00 for it seven years ago and spend $1800.00 on parts within > 90 > >days. It's been charging on ever since with very little maintenance > >required. The nature of the Westfalia and my interest in camping > and > >nature prompted me to spend those bucks. I just plain like the > Westfalia. > > > >Here's hoping you'll enjoy many years of pleasant experiences with > your > >Westfalia. > > > >Stan Wilder > >83 Westfalia AirCooled > >For a quick look > http://williamwareagency.com/forsale/stanvan/stanvan.htm > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:47:39 -0300 Reply-To: 86 Westfalia Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: 86 Westfalia Subject: Re: Waving (Was: Van reactions) Comments: To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking of which, Last night we were parked at a club in a restricted parking lot in downtown Halifax while we were out with a group of friends. When we returned to our Westy to go home, there was a Transporter parked right beside us - the rest of the lot was empty! It was neat, because I have never seen a transporter in North America before, let alone anywhere in the Maritimes. Cheers, Dan PS: My wife swears she heard a whispering conversation in German just before we walked up right beside the two vehicles........... 86 Westafalia Bedford, Nova Scotia Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Benjamin Tan To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Waving (Was: Van reactions) > If we waved around here, we'd be waving all day long. There are just too many > VW busses. > > There used to be a lot of waving years ago. Nowadays, they think something is > wrong when you do. > > There is one thing that Vanagon and bus people have a tendency to do here. > They love parking next to other busses. They may not necessarily talk to you > even when you're in the vehicle. However, they will usually take the spot > next to you even if the parking lot is relatively empty. > > Must be a regional thing. > > BenT > San Francisco > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:53:34 -0700 Reply-To: harald_nancy Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: harald_nancy Subject: Intermittent Vanagon syndrome fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C0D540.DE2EB4C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C0D540.DE2EB4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone wants to see some photos and=20 description where I soldered the capacitor to cure the intermittent problem that my westie developed awhile back, go to=20 http://www.geocities.com/harald_nancy/ and click on Intermittent syndrome I installed the cap inside the air flow meter. 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------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C0D540.DE2EB4C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:23:21 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Fix A Flat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is fix a flat any good or does it mess up your Subject: Viagra Ingredients They finally released the ingredients in Viagra: 3% Vitamin E 2% Aspirin 2% Ibuprofen 1% Vitamin C 92% Fix-A-Flat ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:24:10 EDT Reply-To: JohnHJhouser@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Houser Subject: Fuel Pump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e0.1427f24c.2825913a_boundary" --part1_e0.1427f24c.2825913a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks, I'm slowly trying to get an early 84 Westy roadworthy, I recently installed a new muffler and now I can hear the fuel pump while I'm driving. Is this normal or is it a sign that the fuel pump is about to fail? TIA, John --part1_e0.1427f24c.2825913a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks,

I'm slowly trying to get an early 84 Westy roadworthy,  I recently installed
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--part1_e0.1427f24c.2825913a_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:25:02 EDT Reply-To: Awf986@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "John \"Shaggy\" Donovan" Subject: I-5 vw transplant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit will a 87 quantom 5 cylinder engine blot up to a diesel bellhousing? one of my customers just wrecked their cars and I could put this in my 87'GL insead of the 1.8 that I was going to. also would this engine bolt right up to the diesel sidebars. Shaggy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:53:01 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Comments: To: JohnHJhouser@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Boy you have good ears. Hook a jumper up on the fuelpump and run a tube from the pump discharge side to a gallon can and run the pump. Squeez the bubber hose down with a pair of pliers if it gets noisy it's probably going bad. If it stays just humming it's ok. It wouldn't be a bad Idea to test the preaure while you've got that jumper and test hose on it. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled On Sat, 5 May 2001 13:24:10 EDT John Houser writes: > Volks, > > I'm slowly trying to get an early 84 Westy roadworthy, I recently > installed > a new muffler and now I can hear the fuel pump while I'm driving. > Is this > normal or is it a sign that the fuel pump is about to fail? > > TIA, > John ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:32 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: Fix A Flat Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I drive a Vanagra (copyright 2001). >From: Stan Wilder >Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Fix A Flat >Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 11:23:21 -0500 > >Is fix a flat any good or does it mess up your > > Subject: Viagra Ingredients > > They finally released the ingredients in Viagra: > > 3% Vitamin E > 2% Aspirin > 2% Ibuprofen > 1% Vitamin C > 92% Fix-A-Flat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:16:39 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Okay, but how many miles did you log on these suckers? And whats the worlds record for most miles on a car and/or engine. I've taken one up to 500,000. (the car not the engine). Has anyone car/engine ever gone 1,000,000 miles? >From: Stan Wilder >Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: synergy? >Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:30:29 -0500 > >Fairly simple question, it all comes out to cost exactly the same. > >I've got exactly the idea after doing this for 40 years. >71 MG Midget 204K >83 Cadillac 276K >83 Westfalia Air cooled 256K >There have also been ten to fifteen other vehicles in my garage over the >years not excluding bunches of motorcycles, boats. >A fleet of trucks, i really can't relate on the miles but never an engine >failure since 1962. Only 1 engine replacement in 1969 1 1/2 truck in 1992 >but not a failure just worn out. > >On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:08:37 -0500 (CDT) CTONLINE@webtv.net writes: > > Stan, > > I just have a question. > > If in fact you put Marvel in your oil just prior to you changing the > > oil, why don't you, just run it all the time? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:19:02 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sorry to spoil the analogy, but all aspirin is bad for you. The side effects are still there. Better to take fish oil, and in my experience Nordic Naturals is the best fish oil, I've gone through bottles of it without ever one of those nasty repeats. >From: Stan Wilder >Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: synergy? >Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:32:47 -0500 > >One aspirin a day is good for you. Two is too many. Why dilute your oil >from 10w/30 to something less. > >On Sat, 5 May 2001 10:12:24 -0500 (CDT) CTONLINE@webtv.net writes: > > Stan, > > Just another thought------- > > > > And why only 8 oz's.? > > > > I substitute 1 quart of marvel for 1 quart of oil. > > > > ______________ > > |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ > > | | | | > > ||-(())----(())-| > > > > > > Terry > > 74 Westy (Clementine) > > 85 GL > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:21:16 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: Re: CV Joint Protectors MAJOR SYNCRO POST Comments: To: derekdrew@rcn.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Derek, Have you heard anyone else in the US having the 16" package? My 16" Doka is an 89. Now I know why they didn't come with the CV boot guards. I was getting annoyed with my European contact at one point because I thought he removed it. Ben San Francisco Vanagon Cafe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:30:32 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: mark_hb@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Miles.......... Every trucker in the world. > (the car not the engine). Has anyone car/engine ever gone 1,000,000 > miles? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:38:13 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: mark_hb@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few drops of Nordic Naturals fish oil is good for you, a whole bottle will give you diahrrea. (how's the spelling?) Why dilute your Sh........ from 120 w/90 to 5 to10 Yeah! That's a lot better statement. On Sat, 05 May 2001 12:19:02 -0700 "Mark Dorm" writes: > Sorry to spoil the analogy, but all aspirin is bad for you. The side > effects > are still there. Better to take fish oil, and in my experience > Nordic > Naturals is the best fish oil, I've gone through bottles of it > without ever > one of those nasty repeats. > > > > >One aspirin a day is good for you. Two is too many. Why dilute your > oil > >from 10w/30 to something less. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:36:39 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: mark_hb@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 1965 Bug had over 500K miles on the original engine when I sold it in 1978. I saw the owner last summer. It's still chugging away today. I forgot to look at the mileage. The guy relegiously changes his oil every 1200 miles. I think I changed it once a year when I owned it. = ) Ben ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:38:29 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Temp II Sensor Querry.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Can I check my temp sensor (the one that feeds into the temp guage on/in the dash) for its color code with draining out the coolant? I want to check what the mechanic put in, I had both temp II's replaced, along with the therm. housing. My engine is running a bit hotter now, so either (A) the temp II sensor that feeds the gas gauge is the wrong one, (B) they replaced the thermostat without my consent (I had a cooler one in there, by about 5 degrees), or (C) my radiator is compromised by a leak that is only vapor escaping along the passenger side front edge of the radiator (I'm not currently seeing fluid seep out but do see some evidence of corrosion). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:52:57 -0700 Reply-To: Karl Wolz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Karl Wolz Subject: Heavy red wire in engine compartment '88. I didn't pull the engine, but I've almost got it back in. There are two heavy red wires in the engine compartment. One goes to the alternator. Where does the other one go? I know when I hear the answer to this, I'm gonna smack myself upside the head, but I could use the info. Thanks, Karl Wolz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:14:17 -0500 Reply-To: Larry Alofs Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Larry Alofs Subject: Re: ATF Level too high - what now? Comments: To: Chris Knust MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Knust wrote: > Hi, > > I just found out that the ATF level of my 87 Westy´s automatic > tranny is too high. According to Bentley´s (37.9a) I am supposed to > check the final drive´s oil level now - however it does not say how to > do that. In the absence of a dipstick for the final drive I rely on you > folks to tell me! What do I have to do? > > (2) In case I find the oil level of the final drive being too low, Bentley > mentions the cause as a broken seal between final drive and > tranny. Is there only the one seal shown on p. 37.10 which is > accessible with tranny and final drive installed or is there another > seal which can be the cause as well? > > (3) Is it possible to replace the seal of the tranny´s bottom plate > (don´t know the correct english term for that, sorry) with the tranny > and final drive installed? How do I drain the ATF Level partly to run > proper checks after having checked the final drive´s oil level and > how do I drain it completely to replace that seal (which seems to > be a bit wet, but I will need to run some tests with a cleaned-up > engine first and do not want to do that with a ATF level being too > high, as Bentley warns not to run the tranny with too much ATF. > > (4) Finally - do I check the ATF level with the selector level in P or > in N? Manual and Bentley both say "P", however the picture shown > by Bentley on page 37.9 with the dipstick and the affixed label > clearly shows that the label says "N". > > Thanks for your help! The archive server does not want to respond > to my questions :-( > > Cheers > Chris > Troy, MI Chris: You check the level of the oil in the final drive by removing the plug in the side and poking your little finger in there to see if you can feel the oil. To get the plug out you will have to buy or improvise a hex driver ( 17 mm I think). I took a bolt with a 17 mm head and welded the other end into an extra socket. I don't think that you can fix the seal between the trans and the final drive while they are in the car. You can remove the bottom pan from the trans while it is installed so that you can replace the gasket. If it is leaking, first check that all the bolts are reasonably tight. If you just need to remove a little fluid from the trans, the easiest way is probably to suck it out thru a hose inserted in the fill/check tube. It probably doesn't matter whether you check the fluid level while it is in Park or Drive; I seem to get the same result either way. Warm it up reasonably well and have it level and idling. The typical way to drain the fluid is to disconnect the filler tube at the trans. This involves a large open-end or adjustable wrench (be sure it fits tightly). You may have to pound on the end of the wrench and say a few bad words. If you drop the pan to change the gasket, clean the screen and of course the sludge out of the pan. Leave no lint. It can plug small passages in the governor. (Don't ask) Good luck, Larry A., Chicago ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:36:42 -0500 Reply-To: Dan Eggert Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dan Eggert Subject: Brake lights went out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0D579.2F2CD400" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0D579.2F2CD400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone, Yesturday, when I was fixing a tail light problem, another one popped = up. The left side was out except for the blinkers. We were able to fix = that easily, it turned out that the connector behind the fuse panel came = loose. Now the brake lights do not want to work on either side. I have = checked the fuse, changed the bulbs, and checked and cleaned any = connections that I could find with no luck. Any suggestions? We took = the fuse panel off and my friend who did not know how to use the tester = we had, ended up blowing a fuse. That is all fixed now, but other than = that, we did not do anything that I can think of to cause the lights to = go out. Could it be possible that we shorted out a switch while not = knowing how to test things? I'm clueless and stuck with a van that I = can't drive because people arn't going to see if I am braking. Any = ideas would be great. Thanks=20 Dan (Eggz) Eggert ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0D579.2F2CD400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Everyone,
Yesturday, when I was fixing a tail = light problem,=20 another one popped up.  The left side was out except for the=20 blinkers.  We were able to fix that easily, it turned out that the=20 connector behind the fuse panel came loose.  Now the brake lights = do not=20 want to work on either side.  I have checked the fuse, changed the = bulbs,=20 and checked and cleaned any connections that I could find with no = luck. =20 Any suggestions?  We took the fuse panel off and my friend who did = not know=20 how to use the tester we had, ended up blowing a fuse.  That is all = fixed=20 now, but other than that, we did not do anything that I can think of to = cause=20 the lights to go out.  Could it be possible that we shorted out a = switch=20 while not knowing how to test things?  I'm clueless and stuck with = a van=20 that I can't drive because people arn't going to see if I am = braking.  Any=20 ideas would be great.
Thanks
Dan (Eggz) = Eggert
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It won't give you diahrrea (good enough), it'll improve your vision. When I can afford it, I'm going to take a bottle a day for days on end.

>From: Stan Wilder
>Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: synergy?
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:38:13 -0500
>
> A few drops of Nordic Naturals fish oil is good for you, a whole bottle
>will give you diahrrea. (how's the spelling?)
>Why dilute your Sh........ from 120 w/90 to 5 to10
>Yeah! That's a lot better statement.
>
>On Sat, 05 May 2001 12:19:02 -0700 "Mark Dorm"
>writes:
> > Sorry to spoil the analogy, but all aspirin is bad for you. The side
> > effects
> > are still there. Better to take fish oil, and in my experience
> > Nordic
> > Naturals is the best fish oil, I've gone through bottles of it
> > without ever
> > one of those nasty repeats.
> >
> > >
> > >One aspirin a day is good for you. Two is too many. Why dilute your
> > oil
> > >from 10w/30 to something less.


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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:00:04 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: ATF Level too high - what now? Comments: To: lalofs@enteract.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

speaking of ATF, when I drain my Automatic Transmission, how much will come out (I know it won't drain completely without turning the vanagon upside down [this would make working on cars so much easier, why don't they do this?]. I'm going to put redline DF ATF in it (this is the replacement for Dexron III, redlines other ATFs are for Dexron II, or for towing vehicles or  motorhomes [their High Temp, they offer a total of 3 ATF's]).

>From: Larry Alofs
>Reply-To: Larry Alofs
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: ATF Level too high - what now?
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:14:17 -0500
>
>Chris Knust wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just found out that the ATF level of my 87 Westy´s automatic
> > tranny is too high. According to Bentley´s (37.9a) I am supposed to
> > check the final drive´s oil level now - however it does not say how to
> > do that. In the absence of a dipstick for the final drive I rely on you
> > folks to tell me! What do I have to do?
> >
> > (2) In case I find the oil level of the final drive being too low, Bentley
> > mentions the cause as a broken seal between final drive and
> > tranny. Is there only the one seal shown on p. 37.10 which is
> > accessible with tranny and final drive installed or is there another
> > seal which can be the cause as well?
> >
> > (3) Is it possible to replace the seal of the tranny´s bottom plate
> > (don´t know the correct english term for that, sorry) with the tranny
> > and final drive installed? How do I drain the ATF Level partly to run
> > proper checks after having checked the final drive´s oil level and
> > how do I drain it completely to replace that seal (which seems to
> > be a bit wet, but I will need to run some tests with a cleaned-up
> > engine first and do not want to do that with a ATF level being too
> > high, as Bentley warns not to run the tranny with too much ATF.
> >
> > (4) Finally - do I check the ATF level with the selector level in P or
> > in N? Manual and Bentley both say "P", however the picture shown
> > by Bentley on page 37.9 with the dipstick and the affixed label
> > clearly shows that the label says "N".
> >
> > Thanks for your help! The archive server does not want to respond
> > to my questions :-(
> >
> > Cheers
> > Chris
> > Troy, MI
>
>Chris:
> You check the level of the oil in the final drive by removing the plug in the
>side and poking your little finger in there to see if you can feel the oil.
>To get the plug out you will have to buy or improvise a hex driver ( 17 mm I
>think). I took a bolt with a 17 mm head and welded the other end into an
>extra socket.
> I don't think that you can fix the seal between the trans and the final drive
>while they are in the car.
> You can remove the bottom pan from the trans while it is installed so
>that you can replace the gasket. If it is leaking, first check that all the
>bolts are reasonably tight.
> If you just need to remove a little fluid from the trans, the easiest way
>is probably to suck it out thru a hose inserted in the fill/check tube. It
>probably doesn't matter whether you check the fluid level while it is in Park
>or Drive; I seem to get the same result either way. Warm it up reasonably
>well and have it level and idling.
> The typical way to drain the fluid is to disconnect the filler tube at the
>trans. This involves a large open-end or adjustable wrench (be sure it fits
>tightly). You may have to pound on the end of the wrench and say a few bad
>words.
> If you drop the pan to change the gasket, clean the screen and of course the
>sludge out of the pan. Leave no lint. It can plug small passages in the
>governor. (Don't ask)
>
>Good luck,
>Larry A., Chicago


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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:32:07 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: synergy? Comments: To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

This email made me think of something. In consumer reports they did a thing on oil in new york taxis and their conclusion was that as long as the oil used was modern oil with that symbol that comes on modern oils (and I've never seen this symbol on 20 50 weighted oil) then changing every 6000 was perfectly fine. They took these engines apart before and after and took measurements. However, in the case of high or extra high mileage engines with greater micro or nano scopic wear, changing your oil more often like every 1200 miles may go a long way towards increasing the lifespan of the engine. True or Not True? What are the votes? And I am talking about as a preventative action, before the thing is blowing black smoke out of the tailpipe. Thinking is guidelines of something like

First 75,000 miles change oil every 5000 (true 6000 may be safe, but this is insurance against being late or forgetful)

75,000 miles to 150,000 miles change oil every 3000 miles

150,000 to 225,000 miles change oil every 2,200 miles

225,000 to 300,000 miles change oil every 1,800 miles

300,000 to 500,000 miles change oil every  1,600 miles

500,000 to 1,000,000 miles change oil every 1,200 miles

1,000,000 to 2,000,000 miles change oil every 800 miles

2,000,000 to 3,000,000 miles change oil every 400 miles

3,000,000 to 4,000,000 miles change oil every 10 miles

4,000,000 to 5,000,000 miles change oil every 1 mile

5,000,000 to 10,000,000 miles change oil every 1/4 mile

10,000,000 to 100,000,000 miles change oil every 1/32 mile

At 100,000,000 miles all you'll need the engine for is as a motorized wheel chair to take you to the bathroom, so that comes out to changing the oil every three days if your bathroom is close to your bed.

>From: BenTbtstr8@aol.com

>To: mark_hb@hotmail.com, vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>Subject: Re: synergy?
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:36:39 EDT
>
>My 1965 Bug had over 500K miles on the original engine when I sold it in
>1978. I saw the owner last summer. It's still chugging away today. I forgot
>to look at the mileage. The guy relegiously changes his oil every 1200 miles.
>I think I changed it once a year when I owned it. = )
>
>Ben


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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:45:02 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: 14" 15" and 16" oh my! Comments: To: KENWILFY@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Ken, I thought you used Agilis 51's in 205 65 R15? If this is true please tell us about the difference between these two tires on 15 inch wheels. Also, since 205 65 R15 is the stock tire in SA for 15 inch wheels isn't 215 65 R15 not exactly right? (whereas 215 60 R15 would be an exact match? [in the correct load rating of course). And if yes then what are the cons (as well as the pro's) of using 215 65 R15 tires SA 15 inch wheels? For instance is your speedometer thrown off? Or is there a compromise in the life of the tire because the sidewalls have to curve more to fit the wheels? On the plus side, how much protection is given to the lip of the wheels when you accidently brush up against the side of a curb while parking?

Sorry for the anal retentive ignorance on my behalf. Its just that I'm an expert in making the wrong decisions.

>From: KENWILFY@aol.com
>Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: 14" 15" and 16" oh my!
>Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:12:39 EDT
>
>I have 15" SA Alloy rims on my '91 Carat Vanagon. I am running BF Goodrich
>TAs that are 215 65 R15. I love them! Got the tires from www.tirerack.com
>for like $85 each plus shipping. Got the rims from me :)
>
>Thanks,
>Ken Wilford
>John 3:16
>www.vanagain.com
>Phone: (856)-765-1583
>Fax: (856)-327-2242


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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:59:21 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: Van joke [friday fun]MORE Comments: To: Andrew Payton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Grief! Andrew Payton wrote>> > A young couple was making passionate love in the guy's van ........ > > You've got the worst case of van aerial disease that I've ever seen."<< The following came Friday from a friend in Alaska who knows I drive a vanagon!! Blonde Breakdown A blonde is tooling down the Interstate and when a tire goes flat, So she eases it over onto the shoulder of the road. She carefully dismounts from out of the van and opens the rear hatch. Out from under a tarp on the rear deck of her vanagon jump two men in trench coats. They walk 20 feet from the rear of the vehicle where they stand facing oncoming traffic and begin opening their coats and exposing their nude bodies underneath to approaching drivers... Not surprisingly, one of the worst pile-ups in history of this highway occurs It's not very long before a police car shows up. The cop, clearly enraged, runs toward the blonde standing by the disabled vehicle and yells, "What the heck is going on here?" My van had a flat," says the lady, calmly. "Well, what are these perverts doing here by the road?!" asks the cop, nodding towards the guys in trench coats. And she said..."Oh!.. "Those are my emergency flashers!" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:58:26 -0400 Reply-To: Pat Dooley Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Pat Dooley Subject: Re: I-5 vw transplant Comments: To: Awf986@aol.com In-Reply-To: <57.158b50a0.2825916e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No and No. > will a 87 quantom 5 cylinder engine blot up to a diesel > bellhousing? > also would this engine bolt right up to the diesel sidebars. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:21:59 -0700 Reply-To: Rachel Cogent Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rachel Cogent Subject: Diesel 1500cc on eBay Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am new here and need a new motorious. There is an item on ebay: VW DIESEL SHORT BLOCK ASSY. Item #584632857 It is 1500cc short block, does anyone know what year and model this would fit? Could I bolt it into my "83 Vanagon which is endowed with a 1600?? would the head fit, ETC?? Gnarlodious ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:41:26 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Snow Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Michael Snow Subject: Re: Diesel 1500cc on eBay Comments: To: Rachel Cogent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 1.5D is for late '70s to early '80s cars only. The vanagon uses only the 1.6D in North America. Other markets also got 1.6TD and 1.7D models. I have never heard of anyone installing a 1.5D in a Vanagon, but I think it will fit. It will most likely not have enough power to push the Vanagon. Mike Snow -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of Rachel Cogent Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:22 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Diesel 1500cc on eBay I am new here and need a new motorious. There is an item on ebay: VW DIESEL SHORT BLOCK ASSY. Item #584632857 It is 1500cc short block, does anyone know what year and model this would fit? Could I bolt it into my "83 Vanagon which is endowed with a 1600?? would the head fit, ETC?? Gnarlodious ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:41:56 -0700 Reply-To: Todd Last Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Todd Last Subject: Re: H & R springs Comments: To: KENWILFY@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CF3D30E28554DAF69A7313DA" --------------CF3D30E28554DAF69A7313DA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd agree with this. I have H&R springs with KYB shocks and the front is always bottoming out. There was a list member who made lower shock mounts to avoid this problem - but I don't remember who it was. Todd '88 Westy KENWILFY@aol.com wrote: > Ben, the biggest mistake that people make when installing lowered > springs is > not also installing shocks that are setup for the springs. The > catalogs I > have for H & R springs or any other type always says, in really small > print, > "only recommended if installed with matching shocks". So when people > put > these on that complain that the ride is terrible. Of course it is > because > the shocks are hitting the stops before the can go normal travel for > the > springs. So my recommendation is that you get a set of shocks that is > setup > for the springs before you install them or you are going to be > disappointed. > > Thanks, > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > www.vanagain.com > Phone: (856)-765-1583 > Fax: (856)-327-2242 --------------CF3D30E28554DAF69A7313DA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd agree with this. I have H&R springs with KYB shocks and the front is always bottoming out.
There was a list member who made lower shock mounts to avoid this problem - but I don't remember who it was.
 

Todd
'88 Westy

KENWILFY@aol.com wrote:

Ben, the biggest mistake that people make when installing lowered springs is
not also installing shocks that are setup for the springs.  The catalogs I
have for H & R springs or any other type always says, in really small print,
"only recommended if installed with matching shocks".  So when people put
these on that complain that the ride is terrible.  Of course it is because
the shocks are hitting the stops before the can go normal travel for the
springs.  So my recommendation is that you get a set of shocks that is setup
for the springs before you install them or you are going to be disappointed.

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242

--------------CF3D30E28554DAF69A7313DA-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:50:28 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Restoring the dash? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, I had my Vanagra painted and they let overspray get on the dash. It used to be such a nice lovely black, and now it has a permanent dusty look. Okay, so how can I restore it without getting cracks later on? thank you information freaks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:51:02 EDT Reply-To: Wolfvan88@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Robert Lilley Subject: Need Help from those that store their Vanagons for a month or more for a lawsuit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_96.13c5528b.2825ddd6_boundary" --part1_96.13c5528b.2825ddd6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had an incident with a gas station that gave me some bad gas. I drove it for at least @2315 miles documented then over 200 miles prior to getting the bad gas on Sunday morning April 1st. ( I was taking my Grandmother, Along with her special chair to her sister in VA) I had my Vanagon parked for most of March as I waited for money from my new job to be able to afford new tires and then a state inspection. The van sat overnight on both Friday and Saturday night. I drove over 50 miles Friday- failed inspection due to a cracked fuel pressure regulator vacuum hose. I drove over 120 miles during the Saturday. Passed inspection (With the ECU power chip and ratio rockers) The insurance company is saying that my fuel tank rusted out during the month it was parked with a nearly full tank of gas. I cranked the engine and ran it for @15 minutes several times during the time it was parked. When I drove it @15 miles to top up the tank with 6.42 gallons of gas and then about 90 miles later over rough roads and parked. When I came out my engine would not start as before. I cleaned out the fuel filter three times over the next 50 miles, blowing out red sediment. I then drained the tank and filled it with a full tank and the engine ran for the next 240 miles until I dropped the tank to try to clean it out. What I need is notes stating that you have: A stock Vanagon fuel tank. You stored your Vanagon for X amount of time and did not have a rusty tank as a result of it. If anyone has had bad fuel what was done to resolve it? Thanks for your help, Robert --part1_96.13c5528b.2825ddd6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had an incident with a gas station that gave me some bad gas.

I drove it for at least @2315 miles documented then over 200 miles prior to
getting  the bad gas on Sunday morning April 1st. ( I was taking my
Grandmother, Along with her special chair to her sister in VA)

I had my Vanagon parked for most of March as I waited for money from my new
job to be able to afford new tires and then a state inspection.

The van sat overnight on both Friday and Saturday night.
I drove over 50 miles Friday- failed inspection due to a cracked fuel
pressure regulator vacuum hose.

I drove over 120 miles during the Saturday. Passed inspection (With the ECU
power chip and ratio rockers)

The insurance company is saying that my fuel tank rusted out during the month
it was parked with a nearly full tank of gas.

I cranked the engine and ran it for @15 minutes several times during the time
it was parked.

When I drove it @15 miles to top up the tank with 6.42 gallons of gas and
then about 90 miles later over rough roads and parked.  When I came out my
engine would not start as before.

I cleaned out the fuel filter three times over the next 50 miles, blowing out
red sediment.
I then drained the tank and filled it with a full tank and the engine ran for
the next 240 miles until I dropped the tank to try to clean it out.


What I need is notes stating that you have:
A stock Vanagon fuel tank.
You stored your Vanagon for X amount of time and did not have a rusty tank as
a result of it.

If anyone has had bad fuel what was done to resolve it?



Thanks for your help,

Robert

--part1_96.13c5528b.2825ddd6_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:49:07 -0700 Reply-To: Karl Wolz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Karl Wolz Subject: Re: ATF Level too high - what now? Comments: To: Mark Dorm completely without turning the vanagon upside down [this would make working on cars so much easier, why don't they do this?]. I'm Many years ago, a buddy of mine decided to rebuild the engine in his bug. Try as we might, we could not get a good purchase on one of the top bolts connecting the engine to the tranny (by this time I think it was kinda rounded off, too). I came up with the brilliant idea of turning the bug over on its side. We pulled out the back seat to rest the vehicle on, and with the oil drained, four of us lifted the driver's side and set the bug over. Took five minutes to remove the bolt with the better access. No harm, no foul. Karl Wolz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:03:27 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: black dash pad FS Comments: To: mark_hb@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4c.14b2997f.2825e0bf_boundary" --part1_4c.14b2997f.2825e0bf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit got a black vinyl dash pad ...fits all vanagons, even earlier ones. has the little tray and maplight. chris --part1_4c.14b2997f.2825e0bf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit got a black vinyl dash pad ...fits all vanagons, even earlier ones.  has the
little tray  and maplight.

chris
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Anyone know if Kroil would be a longer lasting solution. I have to do this nearly everytime I want to open my rear hatch. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:00:37 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: synergy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After hearing from Stan Wilder, Mark Dorm, Terry Kay, and BenT, I'm going to put a new Mahle filter on my vans 2.1L WBX, pour in a 1 quaert of Marvels and top off with fish oil!!! Reckon it will eliminate valve clatter on start up, keep injectors squeeky clean and get me a cool one million miles on the old WBX???? John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Mark Dorm wrote: > > Okay, so I walk into a small auto parts store. The have one bottle of > redline oil, but not the kind I need. So I ask him can he order it? > Only by case. Okay. Then he tells me about Synergy, that its better > than Redline, that its the only synthetic oil approved by NASCAR, that > it improves your gas mileage, that he put it in his truck and got an > improvement of 3 or 4 miles per gallon. Okay. > > Is he full of it? Has he been smoking dope? Does he just want my > money? Or is this what my vanagon has been looking for? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:12:57 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: Oil pressure report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got my engine torn down after nearly dumping it in an irrigation ditch because of LAME oil pressure problem. Were talking somewhere in the neighborhood of 150K, this is the run down. Rod bearings, minimal wear (replace). Main bearings, some copper showing, but none were toasted (replace). Barrels and pistons, nearly perfect (hone and replace rings). Replaced oil pump and cover with oem. Cam and crank mic'd perfect. Cam bearings TOAST! Some had that crappy chrome looking stuff flaking off in big chunks leaving huge pits to bleed off oil valuable oil pressure. Heads were replaced in not too distant past, look great. Total cost so far, about 400$. Ken Wilford, you kick butt. When I called he went and looked for my parts while I waited, knew exactly what I needed, HAD everything I needed- including main bearings (at very competitive prices) and he then feverishly packed the parts while UPS was in the shop tapping thier fingers waiting. When I got the box the next day, the gaskets were not bent, and everything that I ordered was in the box. Asset to the ebay comunity! A+++++++. Wait, you know what I mean. Ok, nuther little question for the smart folks out there. This rig has been running very well, but there are a couple of little things that I'm curious about. Anyone know what causes a slight surging at idle speeds? If the idle is low enough it won't do this, but if you raise it up it will surge lightly at very low rpm. Other nuther little question. The last few times I started this thing it seemed to "load up" a bit for a minute or two before it cleared up and ran smooth. Was really nothing but a very minor inconvenience really, but last time I tried to start it it was plainly flooded out (smelled gas). Took sitting a few minutes to start again. ??? ??? One thing I'm wondering about is this when I got this thing the computer was bad and it dumped quite a bit of raw gas out the exhaust system, but only for a very short time. Basicaly the puter died, the bus died, and when we tried to start it it pumped some fumes but did not start. Then replaced the computer and proceeded to burn all the dumped fuel. Could this have clogged that horrid convereter? What about opening it up and hollowing it out and welding it shut again? Anyone know how to do this? Thanks amigos mark... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:08:39 -0700 Reply-To: Joel Cort Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Cort Subject: 89 syncro Westy F.S. in Rochester Posted on EBAY Comments: To: Syncro@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <004f01c0d5b0$972f6540$47a64b0c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everyone I just posted my van on Ebay for the highest bidder. Darn picture did not come out but there ya go. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=586668410 Thanks, Joel ===== Joel CortRochester NY.89 Syncro Westy "Vanadinite"89 Syncro Westy "Cinnabarvan" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: PSavage Subject: Re: Restoring the dash? Comments: To: Mark Dorm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, You can use the same stuff I used to repaint my black bumper. Can't remember the name, might have been Back to Black. Just go to an auto supply/paint outlet & get a satin finish black suitable for vinyl & plastic. Should do the trick. Good luck! Phaedra ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:16:04 -0400 Reply-To: Bradley Flubacher Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Bradley Flubacher Subject: cleaning parts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the best solution to use for cleaning parts? (do it yourselfer) This is a diesel engine. any special considerations? Bradley Flubacher State College, PA '82 VW diesel westy '84 GL wasserboxer ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:25:25 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Drillock Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Drillock Subject: FS: Vanagons with rare features, etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SoCal ads today 1983 VW WESTFALIA, original 57M, 4 speed, 1 owner, propellor top, stove, refrigerator, sink, like new, hardley used, pp, (1GYW092), $4900 or best offer - 310-394-9591 1987 VW Vanagon Rare Wolfsburg Ed., Grey Weekender with pop-up table, fold-down bed, A/C, pwr locks & mirrors, AM/FM/CASS, 114K, 22 mpg. Great for export to Mexico. ????? (760) 787-0441 $4000 VW CAMPER 1984 VW CAMPER VAN WOLFSBURG, pop top sweeper, frige, sink, 4 speed, 2 burnr gas stove, captins chrs, repair records, almst new trs, many other options, excellent condition, pp, (1kaw756), $5900, 818-880-2140 And in the Dreamer catagory: 1965 VW 21 WINDOW deluxe Microbus, walk throughout, complete restored to original paint coats, Blaupunkt white, over sea blue, new engine, trans, etc, pp, (3GZL447), $19,500 (760) 612-7001 WANTED: VW Camper 70's w/ wrkg kitchen,runs good w/no need of work, current tags for a long distance trip, prfr owned by non-smoker under $2000 or gift. 60 VW 23 WINDOW 1960 VW 23 WINDOW DELUXE Micro Bus, new paint, sealing wax red, beige gray paint, nds intr & assembly, $10,500 or best offer, 909-659-22 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:39:07 -0700 Reply-To: Rachel Cogent Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rachel Cogent Subject: Re: cleaning parts Comments: To: Bradley Flubacher In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Subject: cleaning parts > > What's the best solution to use for cleaning parts? (do it yourselfer) This > is a diesel engine. any special considerations? > In my opinion the best way to clean parts is to use a can of engine starting spray fluid (ETHER) VERY FLAMMABLE- USE OUTSIDE, DON'T SMOKE Melts even hard grease, evaporates completely leaving the grease wherever it evaporates. Rachel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:45:47 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: Ex Mercedes Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >He was pushing throttle, changing gears and laughing and after the better >part of a long block the chow dog just gave it up! > >Stan Wilder >83Westfalia Air Cooled Are you trying to tell us you have a bit of a problem with 3 different dogs? Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:46:03 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Imua Camper Co, Hawa-i-i Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just coincidence, the following was posted on a Macintosh list today... ********************************************* LEM-Swap is for buying & selling Mac stuff. It is not a discussion list. -------------------- - I am looking for G3/G4 Powermacs, Powerbooks, iMacs, and/or displays for both my business and personal use. Would like to offer VW camper rentals in Hawaii as trade for such- (I am the owner of the company). It is a great way to tour Hawaii- if anyone has plans to visit and has extra Mac hardware- I'm willing to offer you a very good deal. Need to upgrade the old Powermacs! Please visit our site for details on our service: http://www.imua-tour.com Thanks, and Aloha... Shawn Zenor owner, Imua Camper Company -- Imua Camper Company Volkswagen Westfalia camper rentals in Hawai'i http://imua-tour.com toll free: 1(877)773-4682 or (808)935-6241 email: admin@imua-tour.com -- LEM-Swap is sponsored by LowEndMac.com and... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:51:29 EDT Reply-To: DieterKnittel@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: 1986 VANAGON GL 2.1, 4 SPEED MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello List members, I'm unable to get my Van Running correctly. I'm not a Mechanic at all, everyone i have asked around here could not help me. I dont have the money to take it into a shop and pay hundreds of dollars for service. So i sell that Van now. I would love to keep it if I could get it fixed, its fun to drive and all, but I run out of time now. 1986 Vanagon GL 4 cyl. 4 speed. Light Blue Metallic. Condition is good, Interrior is very nice, seats 7 I guess, got 2 front seats, then the middle seat and the big back bench. This is not a motorhome, no kitchen or so. interior is also blue. The dash is all new, no cracks or anyhtink. New speedometer and RPM meter. Panasonic Stereo am - fm & Tape. 2 door speakers Panasonic too. The paint is on a scale from 1-10 a 8...i took the Van to the carwash and blastet a little off on the side sliding door and on the other site. but nothing major, about the size of 3x3 inches i guess. The Van is over all in very nice condition just has those Idel problems with the Valve connected and stall`s when i drive sometimes. If I disconnect that Valve it runs normal, but still stalls.The windshild has a crack in it and a chip from a rock i guess. But cant be that Bad, because I passed safty Inspection without a problem. So if anyone is out there interested and able to fix it, come get it is all yours. Im on the end of my nerves.........I'm done with it, just to much to know about it. The funny think is , i just got it 14 days ago myself, but didn know that i need to know so much about it to get it running. I'm located in missouri, in Branson about 38 miles south of Springfield or 250 south of Kansas City Missouri. I sell it for Kellys Blue Book Value for $ 1800.00 or Best Resonable Offer. e-mail me or call with questions please 417-338 9349 home 417 -339 9810 cell e-mail dieterknittel@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:43:55 -0700 Reply-To: pedro dos santos Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: pedro dos santos Subject: Re: sticking rear hatch lock problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I had the same problem with my rear hatch lock sticking two years ago on my 91 vanagon. The problem was that I was carrying too many bicycles and gear, and that was putting some pressure on the lock. So at the time I pulled the rear seat back rest down and had to take all the bikes out through the sliding door. Then I realised that the door could open normally. So from then on, if there is some pressure on the rear hatch, I ask someone to push a little bit on the rear hatch at the lock, and I go to the driver's door and unlock with my keys et voilà. The door unlocks! I suspect that there is some kind of pressure on your door lock. Maybe your rear hatch is bent, or you have to reajust the locking hook on the van. If nothing of that works then I guess you have to buy a new locking device. Pedro dos Santos Montréal pedrokrusher@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:48:08 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Look at these el bitchen compasses for your vanagra Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

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I'll keep this in mind, but painting me dash scares me. If I screw it up everyone will know I tried to paint it.

>Mark,
>You can use the same stuff I used to repaint my black
>bumper. Can't remember the name, might have been
>Back to Black. Just go to an auto supply/paint outlet
>& get a satin finish black suitable for vinyl & plastic.
>Should do the trick.
>Good luck!
>Phaedra


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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:55:37 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: cleaning parts Comments: To: Bradley Flubacher In-Reply-To: Bradley Flubacher 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 21:16:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Gunk works great. You also have a tank load of cleaning solution in your fuel tank. Diesel works good for cleaning grease and crud, but you'll miss the buzzzzzz, from the either, and you won't get blown to the moon either, if you decide to have a smoke while cleaning whatever. Cleanng stuff with ether is nuts. Very Dangerous, and hard on your health. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:13:02 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: major hatch strut question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_464b_1656_6b29" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_464b_1656_6b29 Content-Type: text/html Hey, I been searchin' the archive and nothin' been happening. Dunno what to do. Maybe I asks you's. Need replacin' no workin' hatch struts with some of d'em pvc pipes, but me no know the specs on d'em pipes. How long, how wide? You tellin' me please?  


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I haven't been on the list for a while (some of you will clap your hands for that) and last time I was on it you could search the archives by subject, and right now I can only locate the search by week. So am I lost or is it gone? I'm looking for the pvc pipe substitution for hatch struts thingy. Need the specs. How long and how wide?



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David Marshall - Volkswagen Enthusiast Quesnel, British Columbia, Canada 78 VW Rabbit 84 VW Westfalia [For Sale] 84 German Army VW Double Cab [For Sale] 87 VW Fox Sedan 87 Audi 5000 Quattro 88 VW Syncro Double Cab David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org Fast Forward Automotive Inc. http://www.fastforward.ca ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:41:58 -0700 Reply-To: David Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Marshall Subject: Re: Heavy red wire in engine compartment Comments: To: Karl Wolz In-Reply-To: <002901c0d59d$02630740$ee3c480c@pavilion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Starter??? Where is this wire located? David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 • Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions • Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales • European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Karl Wolz Sent: May 5, 2001 12:53 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Heavy red wire in engine compartment '88. I didn't pull the engine, but I've almost got it back in. There are two heavy red wires in the engine compartment. One goes to the alternator. Where does the other one go? I know when I hear the answer to this, I'm gonna smack myself upside the head, but I could use the info. Thanks, Karl Wolz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:35:58 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: What is the correct way of coloring the interior panels black? Comments: To: David Marshall In-Reply-To: David Marshall 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 20:35:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit David, Go to you local automotive paint supplier, and request a product called Mar-Hyde. It is a interior spay on die. Works good. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:58:01 -0500 Reply-To: CHRIS STANN Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: CHRIS STANN Subject: Re: Fix A Flat Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snip.. > Is fix a flat any good or does it mess up your snip.. > Viagra ingredients I don't know... I never needed any... Chris '85 Westy "Da Luv Box" no Viagra, ever ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:57:30 -0700 Reply-To: The CiKaspers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: The CiKaspers Subject: repost of message (replacing expansion tank, plus some wire questions) [long] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i sent this last weekend, but i think i sent it from the wrong email alias. thanks for reading. bill ***** i replaced our westy's leaking expansion tank today. it was actually dripping coolant from the crack onto the pavement...if i didn't know better i would say a head leak, but no leaks there, yet. we have air conditioning. vw didn't design the driver's side expansion tank retaining screw location with air conditioning in mind. if anyone with air conditioning ever needs to replace their expansion tank, i can tell you: it's a treat to get the retaining screw out from below the padded high-pressure refrigerant line. getting it back in was not the world's easiest task, either. the combination extended from about thirty minutes to over an hour to get the damn thing out and the new one in. cleaned my sender, too, it had a strange soft deposit on it, kind of greasy and grimy, but washed off with clear water. i also found a hank of wires leading off of some of the main harness on the left side of the engine compartment. they led to an unplugged plug, which i now believe to be trailer lights (a flat, rectangular *something* had a label which was pasted to its side showing the directions of hooking up the lights). now i have to figure (a) if they're still working, (b) if i can easily strip them out, (c) if i can make them more solid, or (d) what they are if not trailer lights, because the plug is plugged with dirt, good north carolina red clay. and i saw two other wiring oddities that i would like some advice on. coming off of the crankcase breather stack is the hose to the lower of the two connections into the air inlet hose. plugged into this hose, about an inch from the air inlet hose, is an electrical plug that leads about 2 feet to a second electrical plug with a bell-shaped rubber gasket, connected to nothing. in fact, it is wrapped around the wires at the back (towards the front of the car) of the engine compartment. anyone know what this wire is supposed to connect to, or what it would do if connected? you can see the connection that is plugged in to the hose on p. 1.10 of Haynes, fig. 8.14; the positive (+) of the CO level adjustment in the illustration is right in the wire. this same illustration is in Bentley, but it's in my van right now. the second wiring oddity traces back out from the throttle valve switch. the connector that comes out of this switch connects to a connector bolted to the block, which comes out of a slit in a harness of wires on the right side of the engine. all is well and good with those connectors, and my throttle valve switch. what is curious is the two fine white wires that *also* come out of that slit, which wires end in black plastic right-angled connectors. a pair of connectors not connected to anything. anyone know what they might be? i can't find anything in either haynes or bentley showing these connectors. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:21:46 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: major hatch strut question, PVC STRUT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed slwalters@earthlink.net sent me a nice picture of pcv struts. IF you haven't seen this you have to ask him to send you one. (UNLESS you can get to from here [shows you how much I don't know]) It should be a poster we could all buy to help fund vanagon.com. I had just finished with the archive search for all of 2000, and nothing came up under PVC, when I opened up slwalters message. It made me so happy I started dancing in manner never seen before on earth, in a style which can only now be called the PVC STRUT. And then the following song came to me and sang the following aria complete with lyrics and copyright to slwalters@earthlink.net. Quiet now, I'll sing it for you too, it has a nice opera hip hop rip rap melodramatic groove to it, and choregraphy reminescant of West Side Story, but without the racism. Listen in: Well, this is just totally bitchen, and graphic too. Why isn't this the homepage photo for vanagon.com? What else can we do with pvc pipe in the vanagon? Curtain rods? Protective cover for our antenna? How about as structure for a curtain box you crawl into so that you can sleep inside of it with privacy without having to use the curtains against the window when you nap? That way when a cop stops and shines his light into your van all he sees is this big black box, kind of like in space odessey 2001. What can he do but wonder what in the hell it was? Now here's my big question. Why not put the pipe on both sides? Isn't there a chance you'll warp the door by only using one side. I'm gonna paint mine gray, to match the interior. People will think it came that way then. German Engineering. Perfected in America. This is really going to save my knee caps, and lower my frustration level by a factor of a very large unknown number. I did find a cheap way to put small dents in your/our/mine vanagon and hold the hatch up at the same, all while banging your head now and then (clap your hands now please!). Just detach one strut, lower it a bit and rest the loose or free tip against the body of the vanagon where the hatch seals. Walla, the hatch is up, and you can bang your head whenever you forget how low it is. >From: "Samuel L. Walters" >To: Mark Dorm >Subject: Re: major hatch strut question >Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 23:26:38 -0400 > >See the attached. > >Sam ><< hatch_strut_support.PDF >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:25:02 -0700 Reply-To: PSavage Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: PSavage Subject: Would I Steer You Wrong? (was RE Restoring the dash?) Comments: To: Mark Dorm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, would I steer you wrong! I did this refinishing a year ago & it looks just as fresh as the day I painted it. Get the spray product designed for the job! There are may to choose from. Not expensive. The trick is to FOLLOW the directions. Be sure to read the can & buy the recommended solvent/cleaner to prep the surface. Any good auto paint shop/detailing shop will have the right stuff. Find someone who looks like they know something & tell them what you want to do. Lots of people are buying these products. You want the one designed to adhere to plastic & vinyl & is made to "flex" with your bumper, dashboard, etc. I removed my front grilles & windscoops, cleaned them, prepped the surface with solvent, let it dry, then applied two coats of this special satin black spray paint, allowing to dry between coats. I had everything back on the car in four hours. ***Of course, without this list I would have been at it a lot longer--I found the grille's "fasteners" mysterious and irksome. I found them illogical. Good luck with your project, Phaedra '85 Wolfs Westy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:34:47 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: I thought I said Synergy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed http://www.dalube.com/products.htm I'm getting the real feeling that no one hear has used or heard of synergy, nor the claim (made to me by a sales clerk) that it improves gas mileage (if thats true, remember GAS IS GOING TO BE 3 DOLLARS A GALLON THIS SUMMER). So this is where we can start our learning curve, together. Isn't it neat? I'm so excited! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:38:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Samuel L. Walters" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Samuel L. Walters" Subject: Re: major hatch strut question, PVC STRUT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks, Mark is going nuts over me just sending him the .pdf file from Karl Bloss' web page about the PVC strut support. Have it on my hard drive. Just sent it as an attachment - no more, deserve no credit. All PVC praise be to the Bloss. Sam Walters ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 23:41:36 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: Mark Dorm In-Reply-To: Mark Dorm 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 21:34:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Mark, Have you ever looked at the JC whitney catalog? Curb feelers sold by them give you better fuel economy. So do the Hula Girls. So do the spinner hubcaps. So do the chrome tail pipe extensions. So do the Blue Dot's. So do the chrome spikes that bolt on the vent shades. With this in mind, if that sales person told you you would get better gas mileage with this "Miracle in a can"---go for it!! I have truly heard it all now.:>) ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:42:53 -0700 Reply-To: Michael Snow Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Michael Snow Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From what I can see, this is GL-5 synthetic transmission gear oil. I believe that all VW manual transaxles require GL-4. Why would anyone wanting synthetic NOT use a proven product like Redline? Mike Snow -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of Mark Dorm Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:35 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: I thought I said Synergy http://www.dalube.com/products.htm I'm getting the real feeling that no one hear has used or heard of synergy, nor the claim (made to me by a sales clerk) that it improves gas mileage (if thats true, remember GAS IS GOING TO BE 3 DOLLARS A GALLON THIS SUMMER). So this is where we can start our learning curve, together. Isn't it neat? I'm so excited! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 21:52:07 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Dorm Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Dorm Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sounds like you're dragging your feet on this learning curve we're on. With so much to explore in the world we live in and on, and so little time, I suggest you get with the program and start climbing this learning with the rest of us. Heres the next step. Are you ready? IN THE YEAR 2050 THE MAJOR SOURCE OF FUEL WILL BE NATURAL GAS. WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH YOUR VANAGON THEN? WHAT KIND OF OIL WILL YOU USE? STAY TUNED FOR SOME VERY IMPORTANT AND USEFUL AUTOMOTIVE INFORMATION. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzshshshshshshchch http://www.dalube.com/blueflam.htm > >Mark, >Have you ever looked at the JC whitney catalog? > >Curb feelers sold by them give you better fuel economy. >So do the Hula Girls. >So do the spinner hubcaps. >So do the chrome tail pipe extensions. >So do the Blue Dot's. >So do the chrome spikes that bolt on the vent shades. > >With this in mind, if that sales person told you you would get better >gas mileage with this "Miracle in a can"---go for it!! > >I have truly heard it all now.:>) > > ______________ > |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ > | | | | >||-(())----(())-| > > >Terry >74 Westy (Clementine) >85 GL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:52:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Horace K. Sawyer" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Horace K. Sawyer" Subject: Re: looking for suebaroo vanagone In-Reply-To: <28049-3AF4D600-1109@storefull-135.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed reply to me kindly ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:08:01 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: Mark Dorm In-Reply-To: "Mark Dorm" 's message of Sat, 05 May 2001 21:52:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit This all sounds like the Gestapo has plugged you in pretty good. This is all BS------I'm from Missouri, show me!! People are like cattle---just lead them and they will go. When I picked up my Westy last week, and I was up north the gas was $1.52 for regular,$1.52, for mid-grade, and $156 for premium. Hmmmm---- Get back home and the price changes here 8 times before the truck even dumps a new load. Come-on, we are just getting screwed, and doing nothing about it. I'll park the Vanagon, if things get really bad and drive the BMW, which gets 23--24 around town, 28--29 on the road. Later, ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:29:51 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: looking for suebaroo vanagone Comments: To: "Horace K. Sawyer" In-Reply-To: "Horace K. Sawyer" 's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 00:52:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Do What ? ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:29:45 -0700 Reply-To: PSavage Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: PSavage Subject: Re: looking for suebaroo vanagone Comments: To: "Horace K. Sawyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Horace! Haven't seen your name on a post for so long & feared you'd slipped in the shower. Phaedra ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:41:35 -0700 Reply-To: Lee Kouns Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Lee Kouns Subject: Noisy valve (?) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Hi all you nice Vanagon experts, I'm seeking your advice and comments. Periodically (often after the van hasn't been used for awhile) I get a knocking sound from near the valve cover on the driver's side. It gets louder when I increase the idle speed. It gets softer and often goes away after the van has been driven for a few minutes. The sound has been occuring more frequently over the last 20,000 miles (out of 137,000 total). What are your thoughts? Thanks to everyone in advance, Lee Kouns 88 Westy Los Angeles, CA ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 00:44:21 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: Noisy valve (?) Comments: To: Lee Kouns In-Reply-To: Lee Kouns 's message of Sat, 5 May 2001 22:41:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Lee, Change the oil and filter, and throw a quart of Marvelous Mystery Oil in it. It will go away. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:27:22 +0300 Reply-To: Stebbins Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stebbins Organization: The American University in Cairo Subject: Air intake snorkle: was K&N dirty filter MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I think that I have solved my dirty K&N filter problem. As you may remember I have a carb sitting on top of the engine; I took a rectangular plastic jug, cut out the bottom to fit the carb plate, cut the top along 3 sides so that I could get the filter in the jug I taped everything back up again. I taped some empty water bottles to the jug (connected to the carb plate) and taped the water bottles to a flexible snorkel to go up through the air intake panel on the rear left side of the van and then ran more taped water bottles up the side air intake to the top of the plastic grill covering the air intake hole. On our last trip, we did a bit of sand driving and the K&N filter was still VERY clean. This is now very much a homemade Syncro air intake set-up. If you believe that a picture is worth a 1,000 words, go to www.photopoint.com and enter my email address (stebbins@aucegypt.edu) and at the album page click on the K&N album to see a few pictures of the set up. Cheers, Malcolm ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:48:57 +0300 Reply-To: Stebbins Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stebbins Organization: The American University in Cairo Subject: freak: alternator belt JUMPed off MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On our last trip, we went to Siwa, about 500 KMs west of Cairo and 300 Kms south of the Mediterranean, it is a small oasis town/village. As we were driving slowly along some of the back dirt "paths" my ever-observant wife said: "The needle is VERY high!" As I looked at the gauges, I could see that the battery light was also ON. I had been concentrating on driving and she had glanced at the gages (good vanagon wife!!). I immediately stopped. At the back of the van, coolant was spewing out of the top of the secondary expansion tank and the alternator/water-pump belt was just lazing about on top of the engine! How could that be!!!! We decided to go have a glass of juice while the engine cooled off so we could work on it. Upon our return, I saw the oil filler cap was lodged in under the water pump pulley - my oil filter tube is not stock, it is a flexible radiator hose with a rubber "stopper" in the top. The cap had deep grooves in it from the pulley. I checked the water pump pulley, it was not wobbly the alt pulley was OK too. I can ONLY surmise that somehow the cap blew/giggled off and became lodged in the pulley (freak incident) and heated up the belt and it just squeezed itself off the pulley. We put the belt back on, lodged the oil filler cap in a better place and had no problems on our way home. What a freak incident. Malcolm ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:50:07 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Engine adaptors from Australia Comments: cc: caravelleausnz@yahoogroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Found Unicap, an Australian outfit making engine adaptors to fit VW & Porsche trans. Conversions include Subaru. They look good in images. Won't include electrical side of things. www.pnc.com.au e-mail Bill at bill@pnc.com.au Warning: Bill can't spell his way out of a wet paper bag! Comby, Porsch, Reno, knerl, At least he spells adaptor correctly. Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 06:59:08 -0400 Reply-To: puzerewski Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: puzerewski Subject: Fridge blows out on propane Help needed. My fridge runs on all 3 settings, but, in a Westy I just bought the fridge blows out on propane when going down the road. Now for those of you that feel that a person should not drive with the fridge on propane, please do not flame, or bother to lecture me. I personally find running the fridge on propane is more efficient then on 12v when driving, and feel there are no inherent risks of explosion from a flame the size of a match and a 1/4 inch steel tank. Anyone repair this problem? I am quite familiar with the fridges, for I have repaired a few of them in the past, but never encountered this before. TIA Adam Puzerewski 81 westy 74 beetle 73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) Vanagon Partsmobiles ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 07:04:57 -0400 Reply-To: puzerewski Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: puzerewski Subject: Re: ISO Sliding Window Latch Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com The screws threads are fine and it seems to take forever to get out doing half turns, so be patient and it will come off. Adam Puzerewski 81 westy 74 beetle 73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) Vanagon Partsmobiles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilder" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [VANAGON] ISO Sliding Window Latch > The little sliding door latch has a screw up through the bottom. You > need a little 90 Degree straight slot screwdriver to get at the screw. Be > careful when it comes off there is a little spring that will fall out as > the lastch comes off dis-assembled. > > That's it. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Westfalia Air Cooled > > On Sat, 5 May 2001 20:50:27 +1000 Ray Hunnam writes: > > Stephen > > > > There was a post recently from someone wanting to know how to take > > the > > sliding window apart. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:41:39 -0400 Reply-To: Paul Borghese Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Paul Borghese Subject: Re: Fridge blows out on propane Comments: To: puzerewski , vanagon@vanagon.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Search the archives for messages about how to remove your refrigerator. By cleaning the frig you can help prevent the light from going out during highway travel. Also, make sure your tank is full. This may occur when the propane tank is low. Take care, Paul Borghese ----- Original Message ----- From: "puzerewski" Newsgroups: groupstudy.vanagon Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:13 AM Subject: Fridge blows out on propane > Help needed. My fridge runs on all 3 settings, but, in a Westy I just > bought the fridge blows out on propane when going down the road. > > Now for those of you that feel that a person should not drive with the > fridge on propane, please do not flame, or bother to lecture me. I > personally find running the fridge on propane is more efficient then on 12v > when driving, and feel there are no inherent risks of explosion from a flame > the size of a match and a 1/4 inch steel tank. > > Anyone repair this problem? I am quite familiar with the fridges, for I > have repaired a few of them in the past, but never encountered this before. > > > TIA > Adam Puzerewski > > 81 westy > 74 beetle > 73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) > > Vanagon Partsmobiles > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:11:02 -0400 Reply-To: Kitzmann Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Kitzmann Subject: I-4 conversion timing problem In-Reply-To: <200105060354.f463se727108@marlin.exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ran into a small problem the other day when I realized that I can't check my ignition timing by looking at the timing marks on the flywheel. The diesel bellhousing is located 30 degrees or so from where it is on the golf bellhousing and does the diesel flywheel even have timing marks?! So my connumdrum is what is the easiest way of checking the timing? I never checked it when I put the engine in because at that point it ran fine, but now that it is getting pretty hot outside the van seems to have developed a hesitation on takeoff. So everyone knows it is a 1.8L Cis-e 10:1 compresson engine from a Golf GT. Thanks, Dave K. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:20:02 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: Re: FS: Vanagons with rare features, etc (f) Comments: To: drillock@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3d.b40fff3.2826b792_boundary" --part1_3d.b40fff3.2826b792_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/5/01 9:28:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, drillock@earthlink.net writes: > 1983 VW WESTFALIA, original 57M, 4 > a propellor top westy would be nice is a SoCal traffic jam.. just fire up the blades, and lift off..... ;<) chris --part1_3d.b40fff3.2826b792_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/5/01 9:28:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
drillock@earthlink.net writes:


1983 VW WESTFALIA, original 57M, 4
           speed, 1 owner, propellor top,



a propellor top westy would be nice is a SoCal traffic jam..   just fire up
the blades, and lift off.....    ;<)
chris
--part1_3d.b40fff3.2826b792_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:22:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Horace K. Sawyer" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Horace K. Sawyer" Subject: Re: looking for suebaroo vanagone Comments: To: PSavage In-Reply-To: <002801c0d5ed$9080cee0$5a408bcd@n0e4e8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed t 10:29 PM 5/5/01 -0700, PSavage wrote: >Horace! >Haven't seen your name on a post for so long >& feared you'd slipped in the shower. >Phaedra My suspension is up. Good to hear from all supporters. The Legacy will continue. Horace ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:23:35 EDT Reply-To: DieterKnittel@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: AFM meter cleaning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, anyone out there who can tell me where the AFM is located in the enigine? how does it look ? How do i clean it ? I probely look right ad it and dont see it. I keep trying to get that van running, so please help me out here, and if anyone out there knows about a site, where i can take a look at the same engine, witch tells me what each individual part is called that would help too. I just downloaded the cooling hose Diagram for my Van, it was very informative, because it told me with little arows what each hose is called and what it does. thank you all, Dieter 1986 Vanagon GL 2.1 ltr. 4 speed watercooled Branson, Missouri ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:46:55 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: Mark Dorm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be hydrogen. Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Dorm To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy > Sounds like you're dragging your feet on this learning curve we're on. With > so much to explore in the world we live in and on, and so little time, I > suggest you get with the program and start climbing this learning with the > rest of us. Heres the next step. Are you ready? > > IN THE YEAR 2050 THE MAJOR SOURCE OF FUEL WILL BE NATURAL GAS. WHAT WILL YOU > DO WITH YOUR VANAGON THEN? WHAT KIND OF OIL WILL YOU USE? STAY TUNED FOR > SOME VERY IMPORTANT AND USEFUL AUTOMOTIVE INFORMATION. > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzshshshshshshchch > > http://www.dalube.com/blueflam.htm > > > > > >Mark, > >Have you ever looked at the JC whitney catalog? > > > >Curb feelers sold by them give you better fuel economy. > >So do the Hula Girls. > >So do the spinner hubcaps. > >So do the chrome tail pipe extensions. > >So do the Blue Dot's. > >So do the chrome spikes that bolt on the vent shades. > > > >With this in mind, if that sales person told you you would get better > >gas mileage with this "Miracle in a can"---go for it!! > > > >I have truly heard it all now.:>) > > > > ______________ > > |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ > > | | | | > >||-(())----(())-| > > > > > >Terry > >74 Westy (Clementine) > >85 GL > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 07:47:09 -0700 Reply-To: Mark Drillock Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mark Drillock Subject: Re: FS: Vanagons with rare features, etc (f) Comments: To: JordanVw@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, I see your point. So I guess the one equipped with a "sweeper" probably pushes the traffic out of the way like a cow catcher on a locomotive. >>VW CAMPER 1984 VW CAMPER >>VAN WOLFSBURG, pop top >>sweeper, frige, sink, 4 speed, 2 Mark 1983 VW WESTFALIA, original 57M, 4 speed, 1 owner, propellor top, >a propellor top westy would be nice is a SoCal traffic jam.. just fire up >the blades, and lift off..... ;<) >chris ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 07:48:02 -0700 Reply-To: steve@syncro.org Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Schwenk Subject: Re: freak: alternator belt JUMPed off Comments: To: Stebbins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is not that freakish. Off road, stuff gets kicked up into the belts and will cause them to be thrown off or chewed up. VW made the stone deflectors for the belts to address this problem. But it is different than an oil cap! steve Stebbins wrote: > > On our last trip, we went to Siwa, about 500 KMs west of > Cairo and 300 Kms south of the Mediterranean, it is a small > oasis town/village. As we were driving slowly along some of > the back dirt "paths" my ever-observant wife said: "The > needle is VERY high!" As I looked at the gauges, I could > see that the battery light was also ON. I had been > concentrating on driving and she had glanced at the gages > (good vanagon wife!!). I immediately stopped. At the > back of the van, coolant was spewing out of the top of the > secondary expansion tank and the alternator/water-pump belt > was just lazing about on top of the engine! How could that > be!!!! > > We decided to go have a glass of juice while the engine > cooled off so we could work on it. Upon our return, I saw > the oil filler cap was lodged in under the water pump pulley > - my oil filter tube is not stock, it is a flexible radiator > hose with a rubber "stopper" in the top. The cap had deep > grooves in it from the pulley. I checked the water pump > pulley, it was not wobbly the alt pulley was OK too. I can > ONLY surmise that somehow the cap blew/giggled off and > became lodged in the pulley (freak incident) and heated up > the belt and it just squeezed itself off the pulley. We put > the belt back on, lodged the oil filler cap in a better > place and had no problems on our way home. What a freak > incident. Malcolm ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:51:34 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: freak: alternator belt JUMPed off Comments: To: Stebbins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a permanent fix, you'd better find out what the cap thought was so funny and fix that. Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stebbins To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:48 AM Subject: freak: alternator belt JUMPed off > I can ONLY surmise that somehow the cap blew/giggled off and > became lodged in the pulley ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:59:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Samuel L. Walters" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Samuel L. Walters" Subject: Re: AFM meter cleaning Comments: cc: Dieter Knittel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks, I sent Dieter the whole file that I circulated earlier about cleaning the AFM, he had not opened it when he sent that email. Now he has because he emailed me. I will send him a picture showing him where the AFM is located and direct him to pictures of the inside of the AFM. I have encourage him to post a detailed description to the list telling exactly what his symptoms are so that one of you who is more knowledgeable than I can help him trouble shoot the van. I have also encouraged him not to just keep doing one thing and then another until he writes this post and gets responses. I am afraid he is going to make things worse before he can get some informed help because he is so upset and desperate to get a car running so he can work. (Understandable, but not the basis of good repair practices.) So, I'll do this part and then hopefully he will help himself with a good post to the list. Bye for now, Sam Walters ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:07:51 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: looking for suebaroo vanagone Comments: To: "Horace K. Sawyer" In-Reply-To: "Horace K. Sawyer" 's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 10:22:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Legacy? I thought you were looking for a Subagan? Make up you mind there HK, I'm having a hard time keeping up with your mind changes. Must be mid-life crisis syndrome. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:09:48 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: AFM meter cleaning Comments: To: "Samuel L. Walters" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Sam. You're a good list citizen. Too bad there isn't a knowledgeable list member near Dieter who could help him out. Dave in KC (who has yet to figure out AFMs) 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Samuel L. Walters To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:59 AM Subject: Re: AFM meter cleaning > Volks, > > I sent Dieter the whole file that I circulated earlier about cleaning > the AFM, ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:07:04 -0600 Reply-To: Alfred Bagdan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Alfred Bagdan Subject: Re: Fridge blows out on propane Comments: To: puzerewski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Adam, I had this problem too. Took off the outside vent and carefully put it back together, resealing any gasketed areas by adding silicone transparent sealer to the gaskets. The idea is that combustion air should come in only from the air intake hole (the one off center), and not through any cracks or badly sealed gaskets contributing to the intake, thus blowing out your flame. Phew, pardon the length of the sentence. Went on a two week trip and flame did not blow out once. Tray even made ice. Regards Alfred 85 Westy > Help needed. My fridge runs on all 3 settings, but, in a Westy I just > bought the fridge blows out on propane when going down the road. > > Now for those of you that feel that a person should not drive with the > fridge on propane, please do not flame, or bother to lecture me. I > personally find running the fridge on propane is more efficient then on 12v > when driving, and feel there are no inherent risks of explosion from a flame > the size of a match and a 1/4 inch steel tank. > > Anyone repair this problem? I am quite familiar with the fridges, for I > have repaired a few of them in the past, but never encountered this before. > > > TIA > Adam Puzerewski > > 81 westy > 74 beetle > 73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) > > Vanagon Partsmobiles > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 08:29:25 -0700 Reply-To: steve@syncro.org Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Schwenk Subject: WTB Syncro Starter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking for a working used syncro starter! Steve ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 11:52:45 EDT Reply-To: WarmerWagen@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Robert Keezer Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_97.14e61582.2826cd4d_boundary" --part1_97.14e61582.2826cd4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need dial-in timing light, and this allows you to use the mark on the flywheel. I need one also-any recommendations from listmembers ? Robert Keezer 1982 Westfalia w/ 2.0 Golf lll engine --part1_97.14e61582.2826cd4d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need dial-in timing light, and this allows you to use the mark on the
flywheel.
I need one also-any recommendations from listmembers ?

Robert Keezer

1982 Westfalia w/ 2.0 Golf lll engine
--part1_97.14e61582.2826cd4d_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:16:53 -0400 Reply-To: Ron Semko Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Ron Semko Subject: Free 85 Body Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html
Well, it's clean out the garage time of year.
 
So, If anyone wants a 1985 Non-Westy Vanagon body, with motor (no trans), just say so, and come and get it (Orlando, Florida).
 
The body is in excellent shape. No rust, no dings, and a decent interior. It is missing only the drivers door. It was a Mark III conversion with auto tranny (again tranny is missing). This is the way I got it.
 
I was going to make a trailer out of it, thought it would be cool to have a Vanagon pulling a Vanagon trailer, and still do, but thjis one is in too good of condition to cut up.
 
Ron Semko
Orlando, Florida


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========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:40:21 -0400 Reply-To: Paul Gilland Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Paul Gilland Subject: was: Restoring the dash Comments: To: Phaedra Savage Do these paints work well enough to allow me to paint my brown dash black and have it actually look OK? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:32:51 EDT Reply-To: DieterKnittel@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: 1986GL update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, i was getting a lot of helpfull e-mail over the last 24 hr. !! its amazing how helpfull people can be, i never experinced that before !! Thanks for all the e-mails from all of you ! Now i have cheked every !! cable in and around the engine....I found 2 of them where disconnected, I connected them again but again not change in performance. I also took that lid of the AFM, removed the silicon etc.....everythink there looks ok ? no build up except a little white stuff I removed from the top brown wire connection . I put everyhtink back in order like it was. I started up the Engine, and lord behold....the back door witch was nicely above me came rumbling down and hit me on my head...Auggggggggggghh I think now I need 2 new Hydraulick arms for that think too. Man, always something new...Well i brached the hatch door with a 2x4 pice of lumber..OK after i started the engine, it runs for about 20 sec. then totally starts jerking and puffing and Dies? Guys what did i do now ? I have lost about 8 pounds of weight in the last 2 weeks, im getting grey hairs and now i have a headack too, because that Darn door came down on my head. I have installed New spark plugs...Champion...i changed the Oil 10-30 Penzoil. I have detached each sparkplug wire to see if it makes a difference...it did, so it tells me the cyl are ok. By the way the AFM is a new one i talked to the former Owner he said he installed the part himself brand new 6 weeks ago. I cheked that connector behind the Taillight...its all good no dirt or broken connectors. I did everyhtink i have received in all those helpfull e-mails...but Honestly...each time i touch something on that engine....i make it worse i guess. I like that Van.......and if i could afford it, I just would park it and work on it till I get it right, I wish there would be someone down here who could help me, but im in the middle of nowhere. Well i keep the List update with my experince here, till I either fixed it or is has been Sold. Now I got to go and get 2 new Hydraulik arms for that back hatch door, or it will fall down on me again. P.S> sorry about my spelling, im original from germany Dieter Branson, Missouri 1986 vanagon GL 2.1 watercooled, 4 speed ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:43:28 -0700 Reply-To: PSavage Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: PSavage Subject: Re: Restoring the dash Comments: To: Paul Gilland MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do these paints work well enough to allow me to paint my brown dash black and have it actually look OK? Paul, Can't answer that, but suspect so. Have a chat with a knowledgeable salesperson at your friendly auto paint/detail shop. Good luck! Phaedra ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:08:50 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: torque specs? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey fellow vdubers was wondering if anyone might have time today to send me some engine assembly torque specs? Oh, pattern for head torque too please??? Thanks, mark... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:08:01 -0700 Reply-To: Pat Callaghan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Pat Callaghan Subject: Old issue Comments: To: Wetwesties Email list , type2@type2.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned better. Any suggestions? Thanks. Pat Callaghan 82 Westy Portland, OR. http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:21:16 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be hydrogen. nah. you're all wrong. it'll be alcohol. too easy to make ... can make it from garbage. the problems associated with it are fixable ...using stainless steel pipes and such (even glass would work), and it's pumpable using the equipment at the gas stations already ... hydrogen would take way too much money and time to change over. and remember ...we're talking about letting loose a highly flammable explosive gas (hydrogen) on the public of this country ... the same public who sits in front of televisions and watches "Survivor"? the same public that has never learned out to drive automobiles safely? besides, with alcohol, we'd get rid of a few more morons when they tried to drink their auto fuel. :) but the thing that i truly see happening is hybrid cars ... at this moment, i can't see anything else that's feasible ... a true hybrid will have a small alcohol engine, specifically designed to operate at a narrow range of rpm to generate electrical power to run the electric motors of the automobile. in other words, right back to the original design of Ferdinand Porsche. and his version had four-wheel drive (the electric motors were built into each wheel, like a large earth-mover). all of this is possible right now ... just not fashionable. anyway, the hybrid design can solve a lot of emission problems as well as using less fuel to go the same distance ... figure 300 miles on about 5 gallons of fuel. them's my predictions and i'm sticking with 'em. :) unca Nostradamus :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:27:47 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: hydrogen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:46:55 -0500 > From: Dave Baker > Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy > > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be hydrogen. > Well, I certainly would be pleased with this, but from what I have seen, at the rate that this world evolves we will still be savaging the last un touched reserves of oil while we choke to death just to keep the decendants of the bush clan happy. then again, we may go back to coal fired steam. In Oregon I saw a lawn mower and several other engines run on hydrogen, I'm still alive. I think that hindenburg thing was arson by oil interests (ok, prolly not). Personaly, I say we start by putting all our teevee's together into a big pile and BURN them to harness the thermal energy. mark... > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:24:44 EST Reply-To: Andrew Payton Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Payton Subject: [Re: I thought I said Synergy] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dunno man, we've got hybrid cars right now. I'd like to think there wi= ll be something we don't use right now since it's still 50years away. Some cra= zy synthetic fuel or maybe just pure electric. As of right now... my bets g= oin with soy though! -Andrew Joel Walker wrote: > > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be > hydrogen. > = > nah. you're all wrong. it'll be alcohol. too easy to make ... can make > it from garbage. > the problems associated with it are fixable ...using stainless steel > pipes and such (even glass would work), and it's pumpable using the > equipment at the gas stations already ... hydrogen would take way too > much money and time to change over. > = > and remember ...we're talking about letting loose a highly flammable > explosive gas (hydrogen) on the public of this country ... the same > public who sits in front of televisions and watches "Survivor"? the > same public that has never learned out to drive automobiles safely? > = > besides, with alcohol, we'd get rid of a few more morons when they > tried to drink their auto fuel. :) > = > but the thing that i truly see happening is hybrid cars ... at this > moment, i can't see anything else that's feasible ... a true hybrid > will have a small alcohol engine, specifically designed to operate at > a narrow range of rpm to generate electrical power to run the electric > motors of the automobile. in other words, right back to the original > design of Ferdinand Porsche. and his version had four-wheel drive (the > electric motors were built into each wheel, like a large earth-mover). > all of this is possible right now ... just not fashionable. anyway, > the hybrid design can solve a lot of emission problems as well as > using less fuel to go the same distance ... figure 300 miles on about > 5 gallons of fuel. > = > them's my predictions and i'm sticking with 'em. > :) > = > unca Nostradamus :) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:30:19 -0700 Reply-To: Pat Callaghan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Pat Callaghan Subject: Re: [T2] Old issue Comments: To: Jim Mowreader , Wetwesties Email list , type2@type2.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, I am not sure about Pep Boys but I found it at a Baxter Auto Parts. They are kind of a hotrod shop. Thanks. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mowreader" To: "Pat Callaghan" ; "Wetwesties Email list" ; "Vanagon mailing list" ; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [T2] Old issue > Pat Callaghan sends: > > > I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. > > Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no > > luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned > > better. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > NAPA usually isn't open Sundays, but they have it. Are there Pep Boys stores > in Portland? The ones in NC have it. > -- > > --jmowreader > xdoc@mindspring.com > http://www.macsalon.org > > Congratulations to Tony Stewart for winning the Pontiac Excitement 400! > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:31:26 -0700 Reply-To: PSavage Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: PSavage Subject: Re Synergy... bla bla bla MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...nah. you're all wrong. it'll be alcohol. too easy to make ... can make it from garbage. Joel What a crock! It's bound to be methane gas. Phaedra ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 10:36:15 -0700 Reply-To: Karl Wolz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Karl Wolz Subject: Re: hydrogen Comments: To: radish150 Big thing on the local (Phx) news the other night is that (I think) GM is currently testing a hydrogen powered fuel cell (is that redundant) car here on their test track, and will be for a few weeks. They're calling it a feasibility study. If I can find a link to any of the newspaper articles, I'll send it along. Karl Wolz ----- Original Message ----- From: "radish150" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: hydrogen > > Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:46:55 -0500 > > From: Dave Baker > > Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy > > > > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be hydrogen. > > > > > > > Well, I certainly would be pleased with this, but from what I have seen, at the rate that this world evolves we will still be savaging the last un touched > reserves of oil while we choke to death just to keep the decendants of the bush clan happy. then again, we may go back to coal fired steam. > > In Oregon I saw a lawn mower and several other engines run on hydrogen, I'm still alive. I think that hindenburg thing was arson by oil interests (ok, prolly > not). > > Personaly, I say we start by putting all our teevee's together into a big pile and BURN them to harness the thermal energy. > > mark... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:51:49 EDT Reply-To: WarmerWagen@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Robert Keezer Subject: 1985 Westy Wkndr for sale Seattle.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14.13b8da91.2826e935_boundary" --part1_14.13b8da91.2826e935_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI- I saw this on the freeeway yesterday for anyone interested- 1985 Westfalia Weekender for sale, Beige, Auto, 145,000 miles, new heads, original 110/12 volt fridge, marine alcohol stove, CD player, bike rack, etc., 206 547-5980. It looks nice driving by it - I can look at it for you if you are out of town and interested, and as they always say at the end, in have no connection to the seller other than the fact we own Westfalias. Please e-mail me in private if you want me to look at it for you. Robert Keezer 1982 Westfalia --part1_14.13b8da91.2826e935_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI- I saw this on the freeeway yesterday for anyone interested-

1985 Westfalia Weekender for sale, Beige, Auto, 145,000 miles, new heads,
original 110/12 volt fridge, marine alcohol stove, CD player, bike rack,
etc., 206 547-5980.

It looks nice driving by it - I can look at it for you if you are out of town
and interested, and as they always say at the end, in have no connection to
the seller other than the fact we own Westfalias.
Please e-mail me in private if you want me to look at it for you.

Robert Keezer

1982 Westfalia
--part1_14.13b8da91.2826e935_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:09:51 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS: 87 Vanagon (blown engine) $2000 Tacoma, WA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .... http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C17+A0+R85906+Q252067 640 says it has a bike/ski/luggage rack and an attachable two-room tent. now you know as much as me. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:11:09 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 87 camper $3500 Richmond, VA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad ... http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C17+A0+R86502+Q252067 640 now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:13:43 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 88 $1750 (another blown engine) Washington, DC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .... http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P1+C17+A0+R84039+Q252067 640 got a picture on this one. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:20:59 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 83 camper $1000 Cocoa, FL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .. http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1110637.html it's not a westie, but looks like a country homes camper, with awning. tan/brown exterior color. watercooled 1983. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:26:08 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 83 $1600 Brunswick, NJ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad ... http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1120957.html 83 watercooled non-camper. coolant leak. needs body work. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:29:23 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FREE 82 Vanagon body Dallas, TX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .. http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1110279.html now you know more than i do! :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:32:31 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 80 Vanagon L $1800 Holladay, UT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad ... http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1031567.html non-camper. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:34:22 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 85 body only $300 (yes, 300) Anacortes, WA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .. http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1119098.html got pictures, really weird middle seat. now you know more than i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:36:00 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 80 bus (another blown engine!) $850 Kalama, WA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad ... http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1035230.html "was grandma's van". go figure. :) now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:37:37 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 84 vanagon $400 (yup. 400) Redmond, WA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad ... http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1119097.html pictures. broken rear hatch glass. says maybe rod knocking? now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:43:32 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 1990 camper 8,250PS Birmingham, England, UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit see the ad .. http://www.ep.com/js/mi/c0/b0/v0/1098505.html;jsessionid=15d0%3A3af59a 06%3A9daeda2642bc1490 turbo diesel, 5-speed. "california camper" (assume it's the California model by Westfalia). just in case anyone is looking and has some money. 8,250 pounds. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:08:34 -0700 Reply-To: David Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Marshall Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: Kitzmann In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010506101102.00841910@mailhub.exis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone looks for the hard way to do the timing! It is really quite simple. This is what I do: - On the pulley side of the engine there are some timing marks. There should be a plastic guard installed with an arrow pointing towards the crank pulley. Get a paint marker and color in this arrow. - On the crank pulley there is a notch, again paint this notch. - When the notch on the pulley and the arrow is aligned you are at 0 degrees or TDC. - Open the licence plate hatch and point your timing light at the arrow and pulley and set the timing this way. Very simple! You should set it to +6 BTDC +-2 degree according to the Bentley manual. According to all the I4 tuners out there and from my experiences you can set it to about +10 to +12 and gain about a 5% hp / torque boost across the RPM range. Just make sure your knock sensor is working! This can be tested by LIGHTLY tapping on the knock sensor with the engine revved to about 2000 to 3000 RPM you should see the timing retard for a few seconds after you tap the knock sensor. David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 . Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions . Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales . European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Kitzmann Sent: May 6, 2001 7:11 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: I-4 conversion timing problem Ran into a small problem the other day when I realized that I can't check my ignition timing by looking at the timing marks on the flywheel. The diesel bellhousing is located 30 degrees or so from where it is on the golf bellhousing and does the diesel flywheel even have timing marks?! So my connumdrum is what is the easiest way of checking the timing? I never checked it when I put the engine in because at that point it ran fine, but now that it is getting pretty hot outside the van seems to have developed a hesitation on takeoff. So everyone knows it is a 1.8L Cis-e 10:1 compresson engine from a Golf GT. Thanks, Dave K. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:10:20 -0700 Reply-To: David Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Marshall Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: WarmerWagen@aol.com In-Reply-To: <97.14e61582.2826cd4d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0D625.855443C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0D625.855443C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use a 'Canadian Tire' variable timing light. There is a wheel on the timing light can can go from 10 degree ATDC to about 50 BTDC - cost is about $100 CAD (~65 USD) if I remember correctly. If you need one, I can go to Canadian Tire and get one for you. David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 . Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions . Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales . European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Robert Keezer Sent: May 6, 2001 8:53 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem You need dial-in timing light, and this allows you to use the mark on the flywheel. I need one also-any recommendations from listmembers ? Robert Keezer 1982 Westfalia w/ 2.0 Golf lll engine ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0D625.855443C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use=20 a 'Canadian Tire' variable timing light.  There is a wheel on the = timing=20 light can can go from 10 degree ATDC to about 50 BTDC - cost is about = $100 CAD=20 (~65 USD) if I remember correctly.  If you need one, I can go = to=20 Canadian Tire and get one for you.
 

David Marshall

Fast = Forward Automotive=20 Inc.
4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada  V2J = 6Z3
mailto:info@fastforward.ca      http://www.fastforward.ca      
Phone: (250) 992 = 7775  =20         FAX: (250) 992 = 1160

• Vanagon=20 Accessories and Engine Conversions  
• Transporter, = Unimog and=20 Iltis Sales
• European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen=20 models

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing = List=20 [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Robert=20 Keezer
Sent: May 6, 2001 8:53 AM
To:=20 vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing = problem

You need=20 dial-in timing light, and this allows you to use the mark on the =
flywheel.=20
I need one also-any recommendations from listmembers ? =

Robert=20 Keezer

1982 Westfalia w/ 2.0 Golf lll engine
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0D625.855443C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:29:23 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick & Stephanie Harris Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Patrick & Stephanie Harris Subject: Re: Windshield Wiper in a cross-wind Comments: To: ingalls_mark@hotmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Greetings! > >Hi Volks, > >While driving my 85 GL in a rain shower with a strong crosswind the >driver's wiper would lift away from the windshield enough to not wipe. > >Just a Vanagon quirk or maybe the wiper arm spring tension has seen better >days? Our 87 Vanagon GL has a little "wing/fin" on the arm of the driver side wiper arm. As many know, Pacific Northwest is known for it's ugly rain and wind weather. Seems to keep the wipers firmly planted on the glass. Our 81 Vanagon had the same problem that you have until I found an 88 Vanagon in a local junk yard. I put it on months ago and I haven't had a problem with it since. Even stopped the annoying chattering of the wiper as it wiped the glass. Enjoy. Patrick Harris Longview, Washington 87 Vanagon GL 81 Vanagon (Ol' Bessie) 73 Super Bug _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:30:50 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: Re: 1986GL update Comments: To: DieterKnittel@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/6/01 9:33:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DieterKnittel@aol.com writes: << .... I started up the Engine, and lord behold....the back door witch was nicely above me came rumbling down and hit me on my head...Auggggggggggghh I think now I need 2 new Hydraulick arms for that think too. >> OK, Dieter. You can't leave the list. You better get that thing running. I couldn't stop laughing after reading this part of your email. I'm going to borrow that term "back door witch". I think we have all encountered her at one time or another. Ben T Vanagon Cafe ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:47:37 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: Mark Dorm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have for years and years predicted that natural gas would be come a fuel of the future .....not THE fuel....but a principal fuel. Theres plenty iof it in the USA, Canada and Mexico, far more than oil at this particular point in time. The next big pipeline project in Alaska should be and probably will be an LNG pipeline, there is some much of it there. The North Slope crude oil supplies have dwindled. With all the hoopla by Republicans to open ANWR for drilling, the most oil there is only a drop in the bucket of what is needed so far as the nations enegry needs are, and the eclogical damage by such actions would simply not be worth it, give the small size of the contribution oil from there would make. The Cook Inlet oil fields that supplies Anchorage and the rest of Southcentral Alaska with petroleum products cracked at the Tesoro plant in Kenai are diminishing rapidly, yet Alaska has HUGE natural gas supplies. The natural gas burns clean, producing water and CO2 as by-products of combustion, making for a cleaner, less polluted environment. Natural gas does not produce acids and other contaminant that get in engine oil breaking it down and resulting in wear, so one can go a lot farther on an oilchange than you ever could on standard petroleum oils. And the coup de gras in favor of natural gas for me is that I prol'ly really could get 1,000,000 miles on my 2.1L WBX. John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Mark Dorm wrote: > > Sounds like you're dragging your feet on this learning curve we're on. With > so much to explore in the world we live in and on, and so little time, I > suggest you get with the program and start climbing this learning with the > rest of us. Heres the next step. Are you ready? > > IN THE YEAR 2050 THE MAJOR SOURCE OF FUEL WILL BE NATURAL GAS. WHAT WILL YOU > DO WITH YOUR VANAGON THEN? WHAT KIND OF OIL WILL YOU USE? STAY TUNED FOR > SOME VERY IMPORTANT AND USEFUL AUTOMOTIVE INFORMATION. > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzshshshshshshchch > > http://www.dalube.com/blueflam.htm > > > > >Mark, > >Have you ever looked at the JC whitney catalog? > > > >Curb feelers sold by them give you better fuel economy. > >So do the Hula Girls. > >So do the spinner hubcaps. > >So do the chrome tail pipe extensions. > >So do the Blue Dot's. > >So do the chrome spikes that bolt on the vent shades. > > > >With this in mind, if that sales person told you you would get better > >gas mileage with this "Miracle in a can"---go for it!! > > > >I have truly heard it all now.:>) > > > > ______________ > > |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ > > | | | | > >||-(())----(())-| > > > > > >Terry > >74 Westy (Clementine) > >85 GL > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:50:32 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: Re Synergy... bla bla bla Comments: To: PSavage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phaedra, I could be persuaded to go with you on this, considering all the BS out there floating around. -[;<)> John Rodgers 88 GL Driver PSavage wrote: > > ...nah. you're all wrong. it'll be alcohol. too easy to make ... can > make > it from garbage. Joel > > What a crock! > It's bound to be methane gas. > Phaedra ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:43:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Samuel L. Walters" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Samuel L. Walters" Subject: Re: 1986GL update, Dieter and the Hatch Witch Comments: To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volks and Ben, Immediately after Dieter reported getting hit in the head by the back door witch, I sent him the Bloss PVC strut fix and he emailed back that he even had the spare tubing at his house, so that problem at least, should be fixed by now. I think Dieter thinks he really has witches hiding out in his vans engine. Sam Walters ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:50:17 -0400 Reply-To: jhlauterbach Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: jhlauterbach Organization: Microsoft Corporation Subject: Digital idle stabilizer ('84 1.9L) What are the symptoms when a digital idle stabilizer goes bad. I have an 1984 with 1.9L engine. In there any way to test it? John Lauterbach Macon, GA ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:02:38 -0400 Reply-To: Dieter Knittel Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: Re: 1986GL update, Dieter and the Hatch Witch Yes the Information on the Hatch Door helped. I installed that 3/4 pipe. But the only minor problem is, the drawing i received " how to do it " Showed that Arm with the smal inner arm coming out to the top, in my case, the arme extend out from the top to the bottom...so it works, but i still need to be carefull moving around the door. Beats a 2x4 pice of Lumber !! Thanks for the help. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:54:50 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: 1986GL update Comments: To: DieterKnittel@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dieter Knittel wrote: > Now i have checked every cable in and around the engine....I found 2 of them were > disconnected, I connected them again but again not change in performance. I also took that lid > off the AFM, removed the silicon etc.....everything there looks ok ? no build up except a little > white stuff I removed from the top brown wire connection . After i started the engine, it runs for > about 20 sec. then totally starts jerking and puffing and Dies? OK. Now we're getting somewhere. How easily does it start? Does it start as soon as you engage the starter? Or does it grind a while before it catches? What color is the smoke coming out of the exhaust? What else do you notice when it starts "jerking and puffing?" Any lights come on in the instrument cluster -- e.g., the oil pressure warning light? I really think, Dieter, if you can provide some more specific information on your van's symptoms, someone on the list will be able to help you out. Just relax a bit and think things through. Gutes Glück! Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:07:48 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: Old issue Comments: To: Pat Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My suggestion would be to forget the issue of GL-4 vs GL-5 and put in Redline MT 90 sysnthetic. It is correct for the tranny and you won't ever regret making the change. I have been using it a long time now, and I'm really happy with it. John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Pat Callaghan wrote: > > Hi all, > > I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. > Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no > luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned > better. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > Pat Callaghan > 82 Westy > Portland, OR. > http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:15:34 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: hydrogen Comments: To: radish150 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few years ago, I saw a program on TV about an old farmer in the midwest that ran his entire farm on hydrogen (or was it methane? Think hydrogen) He had lots of corn and lots of pigs and cattle. Manure was at the heart of his system. This farmer had a bone to pick with REA, and never did sign up. The idea of having to pay for electricity definitely did naot turn his crank, so he set out to get around them. And he did!! The man NEVER signed up for REA power, he just worked up ways to supply his energy needs with what he had. He had been so effective at it that scientists had been to see him to learn how he managed it. Unorthodox, but he ran the entire farm on the alternative fuel, including running his tractor. Neat story. John Rodgers 88 GL Driver radish150 wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:46:55 -0500 > > From: Dave Baker > > Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy > > > > I disagree. In the year 2050, the major source of fuel will be hydrogen. > > > > Well, I certainly would be pleased with this, but from what I have seen, at the rate that this world evolves we will still be savaging the last un touched > reserves of oil while we choke to death just to keep the decendants of the bush clan happy. then again, we may go back to coal fired steam. > > In Oregon I saw a lawn mower and several other engines run on hydrogen, I'm still alive. I think that hindenburg thing was arson by oil interests (ok, prolly > not). > > Personaly, I say we start by putting all our teevee's together into a big pile and BURN them to harness the thermal energy. > > mark... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:06:20 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Fw: 1986GL update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dieter sent me the note below by Pmail. I'm a neophyte myself, so I would hesitate to make any comments. Perhaps one of the many experienced gurus on the list can offer some suggestions. Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: Re: 1986GL update > hi there, > the smoke is black and it makes a light puffing sound, kinda like those Hot > rods have. > It starts easy first turn of the key and it runs. > With Idle stabilizer disconnected it runs at 1200 RPM till it dies. > With stabilizer connected it runs at 3000 RPM and then starts Jerking and > puffing and dies. > No lights or anythink happen at the dash board controls. > I even disconnected the Plugwire at the AFM meter and it was running for a > while till it just stoped again. > Now i know that is no big info i can give you, but that is all i have at the > time. > Dieter > 1986 Vanagon GL. 2.1 4 speed ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:29:08 -0500 Reply-To: Larry Alofs Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Larry Alofs Subject: Re: hydrogen (not) Comments: To: John Rodgers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Rodgers wrote: > A few years ago, I saw a program on TV about an old farmer in the > midwest that ran his entire farm on hydrogen (or was it methane? Think > hydrogen) He had lots of corn and lots of pigs and cattle. Manure was at > the heart of his system. methane ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:50:49 -0700 Reply-To: Barclay McLeod Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Barclay McLeod Subject: Diesel Performance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for all the input on Diesel Performance Barclay ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:59:09 EDT Reply-To: SBWC919@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian McClure Subject: towing capacities with the subie engine? Comments: To: subaruvanagon@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all- I just bought a pop-up camper. Does anybody tow with their converted 2.2 liter Vanagons? The trailer i bought weighs 2500 lbs, and has surge brakes. Does this sound like a good match?? Brian 83 Urabus ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:08:52 -0500 Reply-To: John Gladu Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Gladu Subject: '90 power window problem... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" My driver-side power window went "pop" and then "thunk" today. The window fell down. The cables on the actuator are still going up and down and I managed a kluge with a 1/8" wire clamp at the lead wire crimp to actuate the window until I can fix it correctly. How is the cable *supposed* to connect to the window clamp at the base of the window? I imagine that some small piece of pot-metal or plastic snapped off and I can't find it in the bottom of the door. Can someone clue me in on this? -- bcnu - Grungy '60 dddPanel '69 Bug '90 Vanagon '93 Eurovan '00 Audi A6 Avant grungy@mindless.com opinions are just that.obviously. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:26:56 -0600 Reply-To: jbrush@aros.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Brush Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite long) Comments: To: Dave Baker In-Reply-To: <003101c0d518$4fa94a80$947c1a41@kc.rr.com> >Translates to "Women and automobiles; joy and sadness." I think you may have the second half of that sentence backwards John ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:08:45 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have for years and years predicted that natural gas would be come a > fuel of the future .....not THE fuel....but a principal fuel. Theres > plenty iof it in the USA, Canada and Mexico, far more than oil at this > particular point in time. nope. never happen. why? cause of the same thing as hydrogen ... can't pump it with the equipment that's out there by the millions. you'd have to build completely new pumping stations all over the country. LNG and propane ARE here now. but why don't people use them? no convenient places to fill them up. and can't pump the stuff yourself even when you do find a fillup ... that is, not just ANY moron can fill up your tank (although there are those of you who have had your westy propane filled that would vehemently disagree with that statement!) :) nope. it's gonna be something liquid and safe enough for joe q. public to pump himself. and i'm still betting that liquid will be some form of alcohol. wouldn't it be nice if it was water! :) boy, talk about putting a LOT of people out of work! ;) unca organic ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:17:21 -0700 Reply-To: Todd Last Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Todd Last Subject: Re: '90 power window problem... Comments: To: John Gladu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may have a photo of this. Take a look at the 'triangular-shaped' piece of plastic that guides the cable along the track. There are two of these, one top and one bottom. They are held on by a small plastic rivet, that usually breaks. (Look in the bottom of the door). Another listmember told me his fix was to replace the plastic rivet with a very small nut and bolt. I couldn't not do that as my motor 'ate' the cable once it was loose from the guide. So, if your window goes "pop" don't use it. The bad news is that you can only get the track/cable assembly as a single unit, about $150 at the dealer. Todd '88 Westy John Gladu wrote: > My driver-side power window went "pop" and then "thunk" today. > The window fell down. > The cables on the actuator are still going up and down and I managed > a kluge with a 1/8" wire clamp at the lead wire crimp to actuate the > window until I can fix it correctly. > How is the cable *supposed* to connect to the window clamp at the > base of the window? > I imagine that some small piece of pot-metal or plastic snapped off > and I can't find it in the bottom of the door. > Can someone clue me in on this? > -- > > bcnu - Grungy > '60 dddPanel '69 Bug '90 Vanagon '93 Eurovan '00 Audi A6 Avant > grungy@mindless.com opinions are just that.obviously. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:26:43 -0600 Reply-To: "Richard A. Jones" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Richard A. Jones" Subject: Re: Brake lights went out Comments: To: deggert@new.rr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan: Don't know what year your Vanagon is, but the typical wiring for the brake lites is from a fuse to the switch to the lights. In '87, it is fuse S15, then out connector D, pin 16, to the brake lite switch, which is up under the dash--part of the brake master cylinder, pedal linkage, etc. Again, in '87, the wire from D16 to the switch is Bk/Gy and from the switch to the engine compartment and bulbs, Bk/Bl. Check that you didn't accidently pull off the connector from the brake lite switch when you were pulling on harness D. D is the white connector plug into the fuse panel. Good luck! Richard A. Jones '81 Vanagon Mr Bus '87 Syncro Westy ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:55:42 -0600 Reply-To: Clifford Gottschalk Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Clifford Gottschalk Subject: Looking for a used fuel injector - 2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am currently trying to find a slight miss at 2000 rpm's and suspect that it maybe a fuel injector - anyone happen to have one or couple they would be willing to sell me cheap? Appreicate any input you might have - Cliff Gottschalk ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:00:05 -0700 Reply-To: dawn Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: dawn Subject: iso black framed sliding windows and power window motor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit looking for black framed sliding windows and a power window motor for drivers side. Darrel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:01:59 -0700 Reply-To: dawn Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: dawn Subject: fs parting 88 84 73 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2.1 heads (sold) 1.9 liter block good for rebuild back non bed seat with arm rest for a 84 blue middle seat with are rest for 84 blue front seats with are rest blue rear hatch sliding door front doors any part that you need cut off the 73 email me let me know( all body parts are straight any part that you need cut off the 84 email me let me know( all body parts are straight except for the front end) any suspension parts that anyone needs from an 84 let me know hand brake auto shifter in the front floor 73 84 hubs 73 84 rotors 73 84 axles rear bumpers brackets windows calipers brake booster gas tank filler neck there is alot of good parts left on her the vanagon is blue inside and out on blue the type 2 73 is orange still lot of parts all glass is good will part all parts Darrel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:11:42 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite long) Comments: To: jbrush@aros.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I always took the phrase to mean that both women and automobiles can make us very happy at times, and, at other times, very sad. Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Dave Baker ; Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes, etc. (quite long) > > >Translates to "Women and automobiles; joy and sadness." > > I think you may have the second half of that sentence backwards > > John > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 16:59:44 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: vanagon@volkswagen.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please explain "Just make sure your knock sensor is working! ". I've never heard of this before. I've got an 83 Aircooled 1970 cc FI, so it might not even apply to me. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:59:36 -0500 Reply-To: Larry Alofs Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Larry Alofs Subject: Re: oil pressure story in full: costs, thoughts, gripes,etc. (quite long) Comments: To: jbrush@aros.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Brush wrote: > >Translates to "Women and automobiles; joy and sadness." > > I think you may have the second half of that sentence backwards > > John Both apply to both. Larry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:19:59 -0500 Reply-To: Larry Alofs Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Larry Alofs Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stan Wilder wrote: > Please explain "Just make sure your knock sensor is working! ". > I've never heard of this before. > I've got an 83 Aircooled 1970 cc FI, so it might not even apply to me. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Westfalia Air Cooled You're right. It's a more recent invention, never used in factory vanagon engines that I know of. Earliest I've seen is in an 88 Jetta, but I don't know the whole history. In engines where the ignition timing is controlled by the ECU, it can advance the timing until it senses the pinging from ignition too early/octane too low. It then retards the spark just far enough to stop the knock. The idea is to prevent damage from pre ignition and still let the engine take advantage of the extra power possible if you use high octane gas. Sounds good, maybe it even works. Larry A. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:49:19 -0600 Reply-To: Drew Bedford Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Drew Bedford Organization: Bomb-Proof Subject: Wasatch Westies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well the first meeting of the Utah/Wasatch Westies was a big success. About a dozen vans showed up in Sugarhouse park. Introductions were made, expertise swapped and plans were laid for an upcoming camping trip. We even caught Gerry Masar passing through on his way home to AZ. It was good to see so many vans in one place on a beautiful day. A few pics from the day: http://www.bomb-proof.com/images/WW/1.jpg http://www.bomb-proof.com/images/WW/2.jpg http://www.bomb-proof.com/images/WW/3.jpg http://www.bomb-proof.com/images/WW/4.jpg ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:55:01 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem / knocksensor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stan et al., To oversimplify, a knock sensor is a microphone. It listens for the sound of a knocking engine. Then tells the ECU to make adjustments to the timing until the knocking stops. They are quite sensitive. I have heard of knock sensors not working properly because they are not properly torqued. I guess if it's too tight it can't listen as easily. It's like you trying to listen and somebody holding a pillow against your ear. the tighter they push the pillow to your head the more difficult it is to hear. Pretty soon you can't understand anything anyone is saying. I would guess the same thing happens to the knock sensor. BenT Vanagon Cafe ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:02:53 -0700 Reply-To: dscrkjohns@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Sonia Johnson Subject: Engine reving? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello vana-experts, This is probably a simple repair--but oil changes and routine maintenance are about the extent of my auto knowledge. Problem is when I start the engine, it revs up to about 3500 to 4000 and wants to stay there. I'm driving with my foot on the brake, and turning off when I hit a stop light. This happened suddenly- it was fine yesterday, this morning it started. Do I just need to adjust the idle, or is there more to this? Help! Sonia J ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:21:52 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: FS 87 vanagon $2500 Mobile, AL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Volkswagen Vanagon 1987 Water cooled, $2500 obo. 334/626-3263 Published in the Mobile Register on 5/6. now you know as much as i do. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:25:23 -0500 Reply-To: andrewbell Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: andrewbell Subject: Back door Witch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She has found me on more than one occasion... AB Benjamin Tan wrote: > In a message dated 5/6/01 9:33:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > DieterKnittel@aol.com writes: > > << .... I started up the Engine, and lord behold....the back door witch was > nicely above me came rumbling down and hit me on my head...Auggggggggggghh > I think now I need 2 new Hydraulick arms for that think too. >> > > OK, Dieter. You can't leave the list. You better get that thing running. I > couldn't stop laughing after reading this part of your email. I'm going to > borrow that term "back door witch". I think we have all encountered her at > one time or another. > > Ben T > Vanagon > Cafe ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:32:17 -0400 Reply-To: Sudhir Desai Sender: Vanagon Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: MESSAGE-ID field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Sudhir Desai Subject: Testing out palm pilot pro's mail handling abilities.(NO BODY) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:32:18 -0700 Reply-To: Ari Ollikainen Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Ari Ollikainen Subject: Re: Back door Witch Comments: To: andrewbell In-Reply-To: <3AF5EB74.17C1D87C@qwest.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 7:25 PM -0500 5/6/01, andrewbell wrote: >She has found me on more than one occasion... > I've always managed to keep her at bay with a suitably sized broom handle... ;^) ;^) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ You can't depend on your judgement when your imagination is out of focus. -- Mark Twain. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ OLTECO Ari Ollikainen P.O. BOX 3688 Networking Architecture and Technology Stanford, CA Ari@OLTECO.com 94309-3688 415.517.3519 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:40:03 -1000 Reply-To: Mick Kalber Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mick Kalber Subject: Re: Old issue Comments: To: Pat Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pat... try this website for more dealers http://www.redlineoil.com/ The only one I saw in the Portland area was: Schnell Auto. and Supply · Portland, OR · 503-285-3567 but if you call them there may be more. Good luck. Mick Kalber 89 Syncro Westy "Daddeo" Tropical Visions Video, Inc. 62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720 808-935-5557 808-935-0066 (fax) hotlava@interpac.net www.volcanoscapes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Callaghan To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Old issue > Hi all, > > I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. > Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no > luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned > better. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > Pat Callaghan > 82 Westy > Portland, OR. > http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:54:29 -1000 Reply-To: Mick Kalber Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mick Kalber Subject: Re: Old issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My suggestion would be to forget the issue of GL-4 vs GL-5 and put in > Redline MT 90 sysnthetic. Correct me if I'm wrong... Suggested is MT-90 in the tranny... 75W90 in the front diff (if you have a syncro), right? At least that's what I was told and that's what I did. Redline, of course. Mick Hilo, Hawaii ----- Original Message ----- From: John Rodgers To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Old issue > My suggestion would be to forget the issue of GL-4 vs GL-5 and put in > Redline MT 90 sysnthetic. It is correct for the tranny and you won't > ever regret making the change. I have been using it a long time now, and > I'm really happy with it. > > > John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > > Pat Callaghan wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. > > Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no > > luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned > > better. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > > > Pat Callaghan > > 82 Westy > > Portland, OR. > > http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 08:58:52 -0700 Reply-To: jk.pnosrv@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: James Karukas Subject: Re: Fix A Flat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I fly for Vanaguard Airlines. (Not Friday, sorry). ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:37:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Jonathan R. Cooper" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Jonathan R. Cooper" Subject: 85 Vanagon - leaking push rod tube? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have this new oil leak on the driver's side. I took the tin off and it looks like the foremost pushrod tube is leaking. From scanning the archives this looks like a likely solution. How hard is this to change out? What tools do I need? How do I do it? Driveway job? Haynes appears to make me remove valve covers and go from there. The last thing I want to get into is the heads. Thanks. Jonathan R. Cooper Brzytwa, Quick & McCrystal 900 Skylight Office Tower Cleveland, OH 44113 Cooper@BQMlaw.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:36:59 -0500 Reply-To: CHRIS STANN Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: CHRIS STANN Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stan, Our flat-4-powered Vanagons are not equipped with a knock sensor, so the issue does not apply to us. The I-4 motors in some converted Vanagons have knock sensors. Those nifty doo-dads allow the engines to run high (10:1) compression on regular gas without self-destructing. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stan Wilder To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem > Please explain "Just make sure your knock sensor is working! ". > I've never heard of this before. > I've got an 83 Aircooled 1970 cc FI, so it might not even apply to me. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Westfalia Air Cooled ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:38:39 -0400 Reply-To: Sudhir Desai Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Sudhir Desai Subject: Caravan to Carslisle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is anyone from MD, and South interested in caravaning to the Carlisle event later this month? If you are, please let me know. Thanx. peace, out. -sudhir _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:39:16 EDT Reply-To: Wolfvan88@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Robert Lilley Subject: Do you store your Vanagon over the Winter? Need help answering a question. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ad.a7d2f1a.282756c4_boundary" --part1_ad.a7d2f1a.282756c4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An insurance company is telling me that my fuel tank suddenly rusted out and caused the engine problems, because it was not run for about a month while parked. My Vanagon was running perfectly until the day I got the gas and then after the gas was drained, it ran with no clogging fuel filter. When you store your Vanagon does your fuel tank rust out, requiring you to buy a new fuel tank every year? What have been your experiences storing your Vanagon? Thanks, Robert --part1_ad.a7d2f1a.282756c4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An insurance company is telling me that my fuel tank suddenly rusted out and
caused the engine problems, because it was not run for about a month while
parked.

My Vanagon was running perfectly until the day I got the gas and then after
the gas was drained, it ran with no clogging fuel filter.

When you store your Vanagon does your fuel tank rust out, requiring you to
buy a new fuel tank every year?


What have been your experiences storing your Vanagon?

Thanks,

Robert
--part1_ad.a7d2f1a.282756c4_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: '80 Westy Pokey Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: '80 Westy Pokey Subject: Re: Do you store your Vanagon over the Winter? Need help answering a question. Comments: To: Wolfvan88@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Well no... your tank doesn't rust anually if you store your vehicle but condensation can build up over the winter which can mean water in the tank and therefore rust. Thanks, Chris On Sun, 06 May 2001, Robert Lilley wrote: > > An insurance company is telling me that my fuel tank suddenly rusted out and >
caused the engine problems, because it was not run for about a month while >
parked. >
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My Vanagon was running perfectly until the day I got the gas and then after >
the gas was drained, it ran with no clogging fuel filter. >
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When you store your Vanagon does your fuel tank rust out, requiring you to >
buy a new fuel tank every year? >
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What have been your experiences storing your Vanagon? >
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Thanks, >
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Robert >
Thanks, Chris Gronski '80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY '87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer '91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertable www.vanagon.org & .ca www.gronski.com, .org, & .ca www.nineeleven.org & .ca ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:27:50 -0400 Reply-To: Dieter Knittel Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: Re: 1986GL update The smoke comming out is kinda black and when i really pound the gas pedal hard, i got black tar like stuff on my driveway, it just spits it out like hell. I drove it today up the hill and it seems like it will Die right then, but just before it would, it get another power shoot and goes up the hill. But as soon i take my foot of the gas pedal and let it just roll, for excample comming to a turn or stop sign, it goes out and i have to restart it....kick start it. When I disconnect the Idel stabelizer it runs better even up hill.....but still stalls even then. I even disconnectet the electrical Plug on the AFM meter and it was running, but was to afraid to take it on the road like that. I may have a vacum leak ??? how do i find that out ? Can i just take some dishsoap water mixter, spray it all over the engine and look for Bubbles or so ?? any advice would be greatly apriciatet. Thanks \Dieter branson,missouir, 1986 " Witch " Vanagon GL 2.1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:23:37 -0400 Reply-To: Daniel Johnston Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Daniel Johnston Organization: Volvo Cars of North America Subject: quick idle with ac on MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 87 runs great, yet when i put on the a/c it instantly goes up to 2,000 rpm. Switching off the a/c brings it back down to 1,000. Any suggestions for trouble shooting is problem would be greatly welcomed. dan 87 westie ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:27:41 -0700 Reply-To: lamusicamellama@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Leslie Shiaman Subject: Ping in 1.9 Wasser Boxer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings - In my mission to figure out my 84 Westy's problems I thought someone could enlighten me on this. The engine pings like clockwork. In 2nd gear at 30 mph, a rapid ping-- acceleration or deceleration makes it go away. similarly at 45 mph in 3rd I get ping also. I rarely hear it in 1st or 4th (surely not related to tranny). My trusty mechanic advised using premium gas, definitely a hardship here in Arcata, Humboldt county California. The cheap stuff is now $2.15 a gallon. (sidenote: we probably deserve it. The rest of the world pays) So I have been buying the premium stuff now for 3 tank fulls and the darn ping still makes noise, though not as long. Is this a sign of piston/rod troubles? Am I paranoid? As a 3 month-long westy owner, I have come to feel that the thing comes unglued by the second. Hell, if it is piston-related why bother doing the head replacement? By the way since it is so costly to replace heads, where do most people draw the line between fixing an expensive problem and just rebuilding/replacing the entire motor? Adios, Les ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:45:04 -0500 Reply-To: Marshall Ruskin Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Marshall Ruskin Subject: Re: 1986GL update Comments: To: Dieter Knittel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dieter: I've not kept a close tab on this thread, so what I say may have been said already.... Has anybody suggested that you may have a leak in your exhaust - that can cause the engine to run rich for sure. Maybe the O2 sensor also. Or both. If you unplug the O2 sensor - and it doesn't change - that circuit could be the culprit. The problem could be in the sensor - or the wiring. Unplug it, and report back to the list with your findings before you buy any parts. Regards, Marshall Ruskin 84 Westy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dieter Knittel" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: 1986GL update > The smoke comming out is kinda black and when i really pound the gas pedal > hard, i got black tar like stuff on my driveway, it just spits it out like > hell. I drove it today up the hill and it seems like it will Die right > then, but just before it would, it get another power shoot and goes up the > hill. > But as soon i take my foot of the gas pedal and let it just roll, for > excample comming to a turn or stop sign, it goes out and i have to restart > it....kick start it. > When I disconnect the Idel stabelizer it runs better even up hill.....but > still stalls even then. I even disconnectet the electrical Plug on the AFM > meter and it was running, but was to afraid to take it on the road like > that. > I may have a vacum leak ??? how do i find that out ? Can i just take some > dishsoap water mixter, spray it all over the engine and look for Bubbles > or so ?? > any advice would be greatly apriciatet. > Thanks \Dieter > branson,missouir, 1986 " Witch " Vanagon GL 2.1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:37:57 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: cstann3@home.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stan Wilder wrote: I always wonder when I hear about something new to me. I got a Hayes manual and it's just a little better than "Winnie the Pooh" book when working on my van. Stan On Sun, 6 May 2001 20:36:59 -0500 "CHRIS STANN" writes: > Stan, > > Our flat-4-powered Vanagons are not equipped with a knock sensor, so > the ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:30:38 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: Engine reving? Comments: To: dscrkjohns@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check an see if you have a return spring on your throttle on the engine compartment. Also check for frayed accelerator cable comming through your sheet matal front cover. Something is definately sticking. You may need to have someone press the accelerator while you're watching in the engine compartment. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled On Sun, 6 May 2001 17:02:53 -0700 Sonia Johnson writes: > Hello vana-experts, > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:13:49 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: Joel Walker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unca Joel Walker wrote: > wouldn't it be nice if it was water! < I'd go with that!!! John Rodgers 88 GL Driver ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:09:10 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: John Rodgers In-Reply-To: John Rodgers 's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 14:47:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit The only problem with natural gas is that you are limited to the distance traveled, per fill-up. The fuel tank would have to be humongous to hold enough to go the distances we are traveling now with gasoline. It believe that alcohol will be the answer. In southern Ill. there are 4 alcohol refineries being constructed as we speak. There is so much wasted grain, that the government lets rot every year (100's of millions of bushels) by subsidising the farmers, that a alcohol /gasoline mix I believe will be the fuel of the future. I would be so easy to do, and I just can't see, the whole country converting to LP, or natural gas. Too expensive, Too complicated. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:10:20 -0700 Reply-To: harald_nancy Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: harald_nancy Subject: Re: 1986GL update Comments: To: Dieter Knittel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dieter, Kann wohl sein daß der Oxygensensor kaputt ist. Versuch mal den Oxygensensor (O2 sensor) beim Stecker abzutrennen. Manchmal hilft das. Dann weist du wenigstens ob der O2 sensor kaputt ist. Der O2 sensor ist links unten beim Auspuff. Der Stecker für den O2 sensor ist links im Motorraum. Wenn der O2 sensor getrennt ist, und der Motor besser läuft, ist der sensor kaputt. Harald Short Translation: (so you all know) I told Dieter to try and disconnect the O2 sensor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dieter Knittel" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: 1986GL update > The smoke comming out is kinda black and when i really pound the gas pedal > hard, i got black tar like stuff on my driveway, it just spits it out like > hell. I drove it today up the hill and it seems like it will Die right > then, but just before it would, it get another power shoot and goes up the > hill. > But as soon i take my foot of the gas pedal and let it just roll, for > excample comming to a turn or stop sign, it goes out and i have to restart > it....kick start it. > When I disconnect the Idel stabelizer it runs better even up hill.....but > still stalls even then. I even disconnectet the electrical Plug on the AFM > meter and it was running, but was to afraid to take it on the road like > that. > I may have a vacum leak ??? how do i find that out ? Can i just take some > dishsoap water mixter, spray it all over the engine and look for Bubbles > or so ?? > any advice would be greatly apriciatet. > Thanks \Dieter > branson,missouir, 1986 " Witch " Vanagon GL 2.1 > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:20:59 -0700 Reply-To: George Wietor Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: George Wietor Subject: Re: repost of message (replacing expansion tank, plus some wire questions) [long] Comments: To: The CiKaspers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello: I believe that the hose leading from the crankcase breather stack has an electric heating element. This probably is intended to prevent water vapor from freezing and blocking the orifice, an important consideration up our way. George Wietor, Grand Rapids, Mich. --ll > and i saw two other wiring oddities that i would > like some advice on. > coming off of the crankcase breather stack is the > hose to the lower of the > two connections into the air inlet hose. plugged > into this hose, about an > inch from the air inlet hose, is an electrical plug > that leads about 2 feet > to a second electrical plug with a bell-shaped > rubber gasket, connected to > nothing. in fact, it is wrapped around the wires at > the back (towards the > front of the car) of the engine compartment. anyone > know what __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:35:00 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: jhrodgers@charter.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our vans will be used for housing for the homeless and we'll be more worried about having good water to drink. So figure out what fuel manufacturing process produces clean water as a by product and I think you've found the fuel we'll be using. On Sun, 6 May 2001 22:13:49 -0500 John Rodgers writes: > Unca Joel Walker wrote: > > wouldn't it be nice if it was water! < ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:34:05 -0700 Reply-To: George Wietor Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: George Wietor Subject: Re: Looking for a used fuel injector - 2.1 Comments: To: Clifford Gottschalk In-Reply-To: <20010506.155546.-155585.0.CGOTTS@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure, but I think that all waterboxers used the same injector. Might widen your search a little. I have also read that it's not a bad idea to have all 4 of them from the same batch (especially mechanical nozzles, such as Bosch K-jet). Any experts out there care to clue me in? Thanks. George. Van O'White --- > > suspect that it maybe a fuel injector - anyone > happen to have one or > couple they would be willing to sell me cheap? > Appreicate any input you > might have - Cliff Gottschalk > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:38:26 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com In-Reply-To: Stan Wilder 's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 22:35:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit This solution sounds like something Werner Von Braun, came up with on the Walt Disney Show years ago. Never see it in our lifetime. ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:38:36 -0700 Reply-To: George Wietor Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: George Wietor Subject: Re: hydrogen (not) Comments: To: Larry Alofs In-Reply-To: <3AF5B413.6B436086@enteract.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm. I heard about this. Manure pits on Chinese farmsteads supplying cooking/lighting gas. A local landfill captures methane and uses it to generate electricity here in W. Michigan. Maybe if we had composting toilets in our Vanagons....George ---idwest that ran his entire farm on hydrogen (or > was it methane? Think > > hydrogen) He had lots of corn and lots of pigs and > cattle. Manure was at > > the heart of his system. > > methane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:53:04 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: Looking for a used fuel injector - 2.1 Comments: To: wietorg@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!, send $10.00 and enough for UPS from Dallas Texas, I have a set of four. 0-280-150-206 other side says 025-906-031, also has a 060, and 455.Thats all I can supply for identifying them the part numbers I have on yellow plastic. Thats $10.00 for all four if it's the right part number for you. Stan Wilder 3934 Clover Lane Dallas, TX 75220 214-352-5396 On Sun, 6 May 2001 20:34:05 -0700 George Wietor writes: > Not sure, but I think that all waterboxers used the > same injector. Might widen your search a little. I > have also read that it's not a bad idea to have all 4 > of them from the same batch (especially mechanical > nozzles, such as Bosch K-jet). Any experts out there > care to clue me in? Thanks. George. Van O'White > --- > > > > suspect that it maybe a fuel injector - anyone > > happen to have one or > > couple they would be willing to sell me cheap? > > Appreicate any input you > > might have - Cliff Gottschalk > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > > less! > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 21:00:05 -0700 Reply-To: phil stanhope Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: phil stanhope Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy In-Reply-To: <20010506.223517.-102977.14.wilden1@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stan Wilder wrote: > Our vans will be used for housing for the homeless Maybe...if they havent all rusted away. I Say Fuel cells/COLD FUSION is the future And Speaking of Alcohol, I believe they are making cars that run off of Methanol? Phil 84' Westy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:15:02 -0500 Reply-To: CTONLINE@webtv.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: I thought I said Synergy Comments: To: phil stanhope In-Reply-To: phil stanhope 's message of Sun, 6 May 2001 21:00:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Phil, Isn't grain alcohol, ethanol? ______________ |[ ] [ ] [ ]\ | | | | ||-(())----(())-| Terry 74 Westy (Clementine) 85 GL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:50:35 -0400 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Fridge blows out on propane Comments: To: puzerewski In-Reply-To: <002201c0d61b$942e57a0$589a183f@cc414811b> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:59 AM 5/6/2001, puzerewski wrote: >Help needed. My fridge runs on all 3 settings, but, in a Westy I just >bought the fridge blows out on propane when going down the road. Make sure the drain plug is in tight. Then seal up the joints at the vent fitting -- everything has to be completely tight. That includes the O-rings that seal the corrugated tubes in the aluminum casting. d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 00:54:40 -0400 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Digital idle stabilizer ('84 1.9L) Comments: To: jhlauterbach In-Reply-To: <008f01c0d665$c87dc320$b76b0f3f@jhlauterbach> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:50 PM 5/6/2001, jhlauterbach wrote: >What are the symptoms when a digital idle stabilizer goes bad. I have an >1984 with 1.9L engine. In there any way to test it? Bypass it -- if it's better without, then the stabilizer no doubt has a problem. When it's working you should be able to see the timing jumping around a few degrees at idle -- there may be a failure condition that causes problems above idle but still works ok at idle, I don't know. d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:03:33 -0500 Reply-To: jason_yasment@hushmail.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Jason Yasment Subject: Stock Bumper Mount Bolts Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Hushpart_boundary_jdzZYTEBdelhzXANCdlnnCnHQGcJPcBO" --Hushpart_boundary_jdzZYTEBdelhzXANCdlnnCnHQGcJPcBO Content-type: text/plain Well finally getting around to replacing my ugly, dented, rusted "custom" bumper that was on my camper when I bought it. I have a set of the original mounts, a new "stock" bumper on it's way and need to know what to look for mounting bolts. I need to know the size and thread and what metal type (depleted uranium, solid gold boullion, tin, copper, etc.). Or if someone has a set on a junk that they want to throw in an envelope for me for a few greenbacks it would be appreciated. Thanks, Jason Yasment '84 Westfalia www.geocities.com/jyasment/vanagon.htm Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --Hushpart_boundary_jdzZYTEBdelhzXANCdlnnCnHQGcJPcBO-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:13:29 -0700 Reply-To: Leon Korkin Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Leon Korkin Subject: Re: Sticking rear hatch lock problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From your description looks like your rear hatch lock needs adjustment, easy to do and only screwdriver needed. Leon 85 Subwagen Westy Mark Dorm wrote: > My rear hatch lock keeps sticking. I have central locking. I have to spray > in WD 40 to get it to work (after spraying then I lock and unlock from the > front doors to get the hatch to be able to open). This is getting tiresome. > Anyone know if Kroil would be a longer lasting solution. I have to do this > nearly everytime I want to open my rear hatch. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:20:17 -0700 Reply-To: Scott Foss Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Scott Foss Organization: Turbovans Inc. Subject: BENTLEY VANAGON MANUAL FOR SALE The Green Bentley Manual for Vanagons. Very good condition. Covers 1980 to 1987. 48 bucks, U. S. plus shipping - 10 dollars max. Plus 8.2 % Sales Tax if in Washington. sorry, no credit cards. Postal money order preferred payment. Picture available by email if you wish, but a Bentley Manual in very good condition looks like a Bentley Manual in very good condition. Scott Foss Turbovans phone 360 - 379 - 1626 various VW diesel / turbo / Vanagon parts for sale also ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:27:11 -0700 Reply-To: David Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Marshall Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: wilden1@juno.com In-Reply-To: <20010506.171559.-102977.6.wilden1@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You're right... no knock sensor in an 83 air-cooled, or any stock vanagon for that matter! David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 • Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions • Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales • European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models -----Original Message----- From: wilden1@juno.com [mailto:wilden1@juno.com] Sent: May 6, 2001 3:00 PM To: vanagon@volkswagen.org Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Please explain "Just make sure your knock sensor is working! ". I've never heard of this before. I've got an 83 Aircooled 1970 cc FI, so it might not even apply to me. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 23:33:36 -0700 Reply-To: David Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Marshall Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Comments: To: Larry Alofs In-Reply-To: <3AF5DC1F.8A50AB72@enteract.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Volkswagen, the first knock sensor was in the 1985 GTI CIS-E system. Small - 'nit pickey' correction on your explanation of a knock sensor. The VW ones work on a timing map, so let's say (don't know the exact numbers this second) 2000 RPM is +15 degs and 3000 RPM is +20 degrees. It is UP TO these numbers - it will not go past these numbers. This is why you can advance the timing at idle with no load on these ignition system to +12 BTDC - if there is knock the ECU will automatically retard the timing until there is none, you will always be at the maximum advance that can be had without knock. David Marshall Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 mailto:info@fastforward.ca http://www.fastforward.ca Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 . Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions . Transporter, Unimog and Iltis Sales . European Lighting for most Audi and Volkswagen models -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Larry Alofs Sent: May 6, 2001 4:20 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem Stan Wilder wrote: > Please explain "Just make sure your knock sensor is working! ". > I've never heard of this before. > I've got an 83 Aircooled 1970 cc FI, so it might not even apply to me. > > Stan Wilder > 83 Westfalia Air Cooled You're right. It's a more recent invention, never used in factory vanagon engines that I know of. Earliest I've seen is in an 88 Jetta, but I don't know the whole history. In engines where the ignition timing is controlled by the ECU, it can advance the timing until it senses the pinging from ignition too early/octane too low. It then retards the spark just far enough to stop the knock. The idea is to prevent damage from pre ignition and still let the engine take advantage of the extra power possible if you use high octane gas. Sounds good, maybe it even works. Larry A. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:41:27 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Fitting South African grills: different to German Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My South African pair of grills has arrived and I notice that the upper grill's attachments are different to my 84's. In the 84 the upper edge of the grill attaches by 3 screwlike 1/4-turn fasteners; one at each end, one in the middle. The RSA grill upper edge has a hole in the center (for a turn-fastener?) and each end has 2 steel pins which obviously clip into receptacles my van hasn't got. Ideas anyone? Note that I don't have my van available here to check. Andrew Grebneff 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand fax 64 (3) 479-7527 www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 06:49:27 -0400 Reply-To: Dennis Haynes Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dennis Haynes Subject: Re: Ping in 1.9 Wasser Boxer Comments: To: lamusicamellama@juno.com In-Reply-To: <20010506.192744.-281281.1.lamusicamellama@juno.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Are you sure you are hearing "ping"? It may be the sound of a loose piston, pin bushing, etc. Ping will usually get worse as load is increased. Does the engine make this noise being revved up while in neutral? If so, it is not ping. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of Leslie Shiaman Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:28 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Ping in 1.9 Wasser Boxer Greetings - In my mission to figure out my 84 Westy's problems I thought someone could enlighten me on this. The engine pings like clockwork. In 2nd gear at 30 mph, a rapid ping-- acceleration or deceleration makes it go away. similarly at 45 mph in 3rd I get ping also. I rarely hear it in 1st or 4th (surely not related to tranny). My trusty mechanic advised using premium gas, definitely a hardship here in Arcata, Humboldt county California. The cheap stuff is now $2.15 a gallon. (sidenote: we probably deserve it. The rest of the world pays) So I have been buying the premium stuff now for 3 tank fulls and the darn ping still makes noise, though not as long. Is this a sign of piston/rod troubles? Am I paranoid? As a 3 month-long westy owner, I have come to feel that the thing comes unglued by the second. Hell, if it is piston-related why bother doing the head replacement? By the way since it is so costly to replace heads, where do most people draw the line between fixing an expensive problem and just rebuilding/replacing the entire motor? Adios, Les ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:07:24 EDT Reply-To: Cotsford@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Cotsford Subject: Re: 1986GL update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Prima! Man schreibt so einer gute Deutch hier! Ich bin begeistert. Steve Cotsford ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 06:49:06 -0500 Reply-To: Darrell Boehler Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Darrell Boehler Subject: Re: Old issue Comments: To: Pat Callaghan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pat, napa has Valvoline gl4 in a 5 gallon can. Here is some info from their web site. I also use it in my 1951 ford 8n tractor. Valvoline® Hydro_Lube Gear Lube Satisfies the warranty requirements of Volkswagen synchromesh mechanisms in both manual shift and automatic stick shift transmissions. Also recommended for the transmission, final drives and hydraulic systems of some Ford tractors. API service GL-3 and GL-4. Darrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Callaghan" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: Old issue > Hi all, > > I know the issue about using GL-4/GL-5 gear oil. Now the question. > Where is SE Portland can I find any GL-4? I have tried a few places with no > luck. I would like ot get this changed today but should have planned > better. Any suggestions? Thanks. > > Pat Callaghan > 82 Westy > Portland, OR. > http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 05:11:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Patrick Callaghan Jr." Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Patrick Callaghan Jr." Subject: Re: Old issue Comments: To: Darrell Boehler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Darrell & all who responded. I did find some at Baxter Auto Parts in Portland. Got the job done yseterday. Took me awhile to figure out they moved the filler plug in the Vanagons from where it used to be on the bays. Pat Callaghan 82 Westy Portland, OR. http://www.users.qwest.net/~patcal ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:57:11 -0700 Reply-To: Eric Nettles Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Eric Nettles Subject: Natural Gas Power In-Reply-To: <3AF5AA59.7212E259@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone on the list any information on getting a vanagon to run on natural gas? What sort of conversion would you have to make? Would it be Miles/Pound? Would it be cheaper tnan running on gas? Thanks, Eric ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:39:56 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: anyone need any front carpet? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11.13da024b.2827ffac_boundary" --part1_11.13da024b.2827ffac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ive got front carpet sets for sale.. grey, blue or tan. let me know if youre interested. chris --part1_11.13da024b.2827ffac_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ive got front carpet sets for sale..   grey, blue or tan.   let me know if
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--part1_11.13da024b.2827ffac_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:37:39 -0400 Reply-To: Angus Gordon Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Angus Gordon Subject: Re: '90 power window problem... Comments: To: John Gladu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed John Gladu wrote: >How is the cable *supposed* to connect to the window clamp at the >base of the window? The cable has a small steel cylindrical stop swaged onto it which fits into a plastic receptacle on the regulator. Probably the plastic part is missing in your case, but in the unlikely event the cable end is missing here's a good fix. I recently re-cabled one of my windows and found some 1/16" model airplane wheel collars lying around which are a perfect replacement. They slide onto the 1/16" cable and snug down with a set screw (use loctite). I'll put up a not-so-great picture with the original cable end on the right, and the wheel collar version on the left. http://home.dencity.com/birdworks/cablestopsm.jpg Angus ================================ Angus Gordon '89 Carat NW Ohio '86 Syncro ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:54:31 -0500 Reply-To: andrewbell Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: andrewbell Subject: Re: Fitting South African grills: different to German Comments: To: Andrew Grebneff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got one from ken and put it on lad week. I have an '84 GL that it fit perfectly on! Here's what I did: 1. Remove proud, old, faithful grill 2. Line up headlights using new RSV grill as a template 3. Drill holes and mount lights on interior horizontal braces and wire to taste. 4. When re-mounting the new grill make sure to put the bottom clips in first - the outer ones are tricky. the top four pins lie right up and snap right in 5. And lastly - using the middle turn fastener from the old grill, put it on the new grill and you should be set. Hope this helps - AB Andrew Grebneff wrote: > My South African pair of grills has arrived and I notice that the upper > grill's attachments are different to my 84's. > > In the 84 the upper edge of the grill attaches by 3 screwlike 1/4-turn > fasteners; one at each end, one in the middle. > > The RSA grill upper edge has a hole in the center (for a turn-fastener?) > and each end has 2 steel pins which obviously clip into receptacles my van > hasn't got. > > Ideas anyone? > > Note that I don't have my van available here to check. > > Andrew Grebneff > 165 Evans St, Dunedin, New Zealand > fax 64 (3) 479-7527 > > www.goingplatinum.com/member/vw1 > www.my-successcenter.com/member/vw1 > www.aciimoney.com/index.shtml?vw1 > VW & Toyota vans, Toyota diesels and Macintoshes rule ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:04:45 -0700 Reply-To: Zoltan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Zoltan Subject: '86 Running very rich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0249_01C0D6C3.FF6BDE40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0249_01C0D6C3.FF6BDE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, This car runs but it uses quite a bit more gas than it should. What are the items that need to be changed to make sure that all are = eliminated. =20 Zoltan ------=_NextPart_000_0249_01C0D6C3.FF6BDE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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What are the items that need to be = changed to make=20 sure that all are eliminated. 
Zoltan
------=_NextPart_000_0249_01C0D6C3.FF6BDE40-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:01:28 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: fiberglass bumpers, side moulding panels for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e2.144200fb.282804b8_boundary" --part1_e2.144200fb.282804b8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit have fiberglass front and rear bumpers for sale, lower side trim moulding panels for sale, email w/ needs chris --part1_e2.144200fb.282804b8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit have fiberglass front and rear bumpers for sale, lower side trim moulding
panels for sale, email w/ needs
chris
--part1_e2.144200fb.282804b8_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:02:49 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: FS: '85-'91 sliding doorhandles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.b53799a.28280509_boundary" --part1_2d.b53799a.28280509_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ive got a few '85-'91 sliding doorhandles for sale.. will sell, or will trade for 80-84 doorhandles also.. chris --part1_2d.b53799a.28280509_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ive got a few '85-'91 sliding doorhandles for sale..  will sell,  or will
trade for 80-84 doorhandles also..
chris
--part1_2d.b53799a.28280509_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:17:04 -0400 Reply-To: Dieter Knittel Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dieter Knittel Subject: Re: 1986GL update OK, I have disconnected the O2 Sensor and drove up the Hill without any problems, but the Vehicle was still running at around 2000 RPM without a gear in. When I connected the O2 Sensor the RPM increased to aroun 2800 - 3000 RPM and was beginning to jump up and down anywhere from 1800 back up to 3000. I did not at this time Disconnected the Idel Stabelizer Valve too. This time i did not have any Stalling while driving without the Sensor. I also was overlooking the paperwork i received with that van and it had all the repair's to it listed with it.The O2 sensor has been replaced in 12/99........could it be broke already again ? I will list the major replacements below so the list can see what has been replaced so far. 08/12/99 AC Diagnostic Service & Test....refill 1 pound of Freon R12 Mileage 107463 Total $ 97.07 08/30/200......Replace Air Flow meter, replace coolent temp sensor Total$ 353.85 ( recommandation by Tech. needs Idel speed control repl. ) 02/24/99 major inspection on Brakes replace all brakes, overhaul cylinders,replace front wheel bearings etc. Total $ 774.13 09/01/99......Replace spark plugs and wire harness, fuel filter,airfilter Total $ 287.00 12/02/99 replace O2 sensor(remarks,found fuel in oil from defective O2 sensor) Toatl $ 211.25 11/08/99......replace odometer,replace new heater level,switch,knob,replace O2 Sensor,headlight adj, install 4 new tires. Total $ 991.34 So as everyone can see, the O2 senso has been Replace at least two times in a short periot of time. The former owner keep pretty good record of his van, even all the oil changes. I listed just part of the Maintance list i have. No my question is ...how often does the O2 sensor needs to be replaced ? It got already replaced 2x in 1 year? Of course the prior owner went to different shops each time, so maybe he just got taken ? Thank you List. Dieter 1986 vanagon GL 2.1 4 speed. Branson ,Missouri ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:07:43 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: vanagon wheels $10 each MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d9.140705d3.2828062f_boundary" --part1_d9.140705d3.2828062f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit vanagon wheels $10 each without tires, if you pick up. email me if you need them shipped. wheels with tires slightly more, depends on cond of tire. but still cheap.. also got '64-'70 bus wheels.. ALL STEEL. NO ALLOYS currently. chris allentown, pa --part1_d9.140705d3.2828062f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit vanagon wheels $10 each without tires, if you pick up.   email me if you need
them shipped.  wheels with tires slightly more, depends on cond of tire.   
but still cheap..
also got '64-'70 bus wheels..  ALL STEEL.

NO ALLOYS currently.

chris
allentown, pa
--part1_d9.140705d3.2828062f_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:11:16 EDT Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@aol.com Subject: Re: Digital idle stabilizer ('84 1.9L) Comments: To: jhlauterbach@msn.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fc.5f0f99a.28280704_boundary" --part1_fc.5f0f99a.28280704_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the way most folks test this is to unplug it and plug the two plugs together. If your idle is steady then the stabilizer is probably bad. If it is unsteady I have found that this is usually always a vacuum leak (keep looking you will find it). I have these stabilizers new for $50 (1.9l only). Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_fc.5f0f99a.28280704_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the way most folks test this is to unplug it and plug the two plugs
together.  If your idle is steady then the stabilizer is probably bad.  If it
is unsteady I have found that this is usually always a vacuum leak (keep
looking you will find it).
I have these stabilizers new for $50 (1.9l only).

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
--part1_fc.5f0f99a.28280704_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:11:23 -0500 Reply-To: Kim G Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Kim G Subject: WHYit wouldn't start Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi list, Here is an update on what happened with my 85gl that was running, then it decided to quit and not start again. After determining that the fuel pump was not working correctly, I replaced it and tried to start the van, and it still would not start. Then I rechecked some of the work I had done the previous weekend, and I found out the distributor cap and rotor were the wrong part #, and it worked at first, then the center part of the cap that runs the coil was stuck. I put the old one back on and it started right up. The moral of the story is....double check all new part #'s before you put in the parts....especially when the place you ordered the parts from screwed up 3 of 4 previous orders(this was a list vendor that has been discussed many times on this list.) I'm glad it was a cheap fix, and my van is back on the road, and running great. happy vanning, Kim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:15:24 EDT Reply-To: JordanVw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: JordanVw@aol.com Subject: FS: '84 Westfalia poptop Camper GL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_dc.5ea6891.282807fc_boundary" --part1_dc.5ea6891.282807fc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is NOT mine, but a neighbor of mine is selling it. i seel the van everyday, runs great. '84 Vanagon Westfalia Poptop Camper GL. beige w/ neutral interior. 4spd. runs great. no head problems. stove/sink/fridge/beds/tables/cabinets/etc... call Herb for more info: 610-395-3011 allentown, pa. --part1_dc.5ea6891.282807fc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is NOT mine, but a neighbor of mine is selling it. i seel the van
everyday, runs great.
'84 Vanagon Westfalia Poptop Camper GL. beige w/ neutral interior. 4spd. runs
great. no head problems.  stove/sink/fridge/beds/tables/cabinets/etc...
call Herb for more info:
610-395-3011
allentown, pa.
--part1_dc.5ea6891.282807fc_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:15:48 -0400 Reply-To: lauren spaderna Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: lauren spaderna Subject: fuses/air blower? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Does anyone know which fuses control what? I don't have a Bently and there is not any helpful info in the books I do have. Also... My fresh air blower in the dash just died after working fine for months and I am hoping that there is a simple fix. Again, nothing in my manuals that helps. I hear that they aren't really a proplem part?!? Any ideas/help would be really great. Thanks in advance!! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:29:58 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: fuses/air blower? Comments: To: lulumylulu@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think the blower is a problem part. The replacement procedure is a major problem. You have to almost completely remove your dash to get to the air manifold that contains the blower. Start at the simple part, check out the switch on the dash. Check the ground wire (brown). Try an alternate source of 12v, to your switch you could just have a loose connection to the blower switch. I wouldn't bother learning what every fuse goes to, just make sure they're all good, remove each fuse one at a time and take a close look at it. I've seen bad fuses caused by corrosion on the end contacts. Exhaust everything before you remove your dash to look at the fan. My blower seems to take a few minutes to get going sometimes, I guess the air passing over the tumbler breaks it loose from stuck position and gets it started. I've removed these blowers at wrecking yards to get a spare and I for one will live without it for a ong time before I go to the one full day labor to replace it. If you decide to remove it, there is one phillips head screw on the left upper portion of the blower case that is completely hidden, you have to remove the 90 degree air diverter at the end of the case to see it. And at this point you're standing on your head with the steering column and wheel lying on the drivers seat. Replacement is so difficult that I'd never consider installing the used blower motor, I'd definatel go with new, This is one job you only want to do once in a lifetime. The blower I'm speaking of is an 80-83 AirCooled Westfalia/Vanagon, if you have another type of vehicle I think the same info above will apply. On Mon, 7 May 2001 10:15:48 -0400 lauren spaderna writes: > Does anyone know which fuses control what? I don't have a Bently and > there > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:29:25 -0700 Reply-To: phil stanhope Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: phil stanhope Subject: ISO Chrome VWbus Hubcaps(To fit Vanagon)Rust+Dent free MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I need the origional 70's chrome mini moon caps. Forgive me as I dont know the proper name for these. Phil 84' white Westfalia "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL (Planting a Tiico engine) B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:21:19 -0600 Reply-To: Walter Gomes Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Walter Gomes Subject: Tranny leaks a LOT of oil; HELP! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On a gas stop half way between L.A. and S.F. on the road to Portland OR, I found a huge puddle of hot, dirty oil under the van. I quickly deduced that it was from the tranny as it had a much greater viscosity than that of the engine. Brilliant huh? That and the fact that I'd just replaced the clutch and the input shaft had a lot of play (side-to-side and up-and-down are both about an 1/8" and in-and-out is a fat 1/16th)and it was making a nasty intermittent grinding while the clutch is engaged and was difficult shifting into reverse and 2nd. So much for my brilliant powers of deduction. Once its going it runs great. No roaring or whining, but when we stop, Miles most definitely leaves her mark. While I was fooling with the clutch, I talked with Daryl at AAtransaxel in WA. He was very patient and helpful [and I have dibs on his next "in stock" unit]. He said I'd definitely got my nickel's worth out of my gearbox (330,000+ miles [thus the name] so I ain't complaining too much)but at that point, it was likely a linkage problem as getting into 2nd was my primary problem. That was before we started our imitation of the Exxon Valdez at every stop. So, oh learned list, should we: (A)press on regardless and keep replenishing the lost oil,(B)slam on the brakes, call triple A and go back, or (C)go to that haven of vanagon parts in the bay area (where exactly is that place?) Is engine "stop leak" a really bad idea to help us limp? WWJMD*? Walter Gomes and his Family And the 86 Westy "Miles" (*What Would John Muir Do?) --- Walter Gomes --- wgomes@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:44:26 EDT Reply-To: KENWILFY@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@aol.com Subject: '86 Vanagon Headlight setup for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_88.62eac5a.28281cda_boundary" --part1_88.62eac5a.28281cda_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a message that I am sending to the list for a customer. Please=20 contact him at: lee@tees-n-you.com. Don't email me about this because I am= =20 merely doing this as a favour to him. I have a new S.A. grille and lights coming from=20 Vanagain.com...(thanks,Ken!)...and I would like to offer my stock square=20 set-up for sale...either as a complete set, at $200.00 US funds including=20 freight...or, as individual pieces at $75.00 per light or grille...which again includes freight!=A0 All=20 freight is figured on continental US only! I am set up to accept Visa,=20 Mastercard, Discover, or Amex for the purchase! Lee Collins...'86 vanagon=20 GL...the goldbrick Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_88.62eac5a.28281cda_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a message that I=20= am sending to the list for a customer.  Please=20
contact him at:  lee@tees-n-you.com.  Don't email me about thi= s because I am=20
merely doing this as a favour to him.

I have a new S.A. grille and lights coming from=20
Vanagain.com...(thanks,Ken!)...and I would like to offer my stock square= =20
set-up for sale...either as a complete set, at $200.00 US funds includin= g=20
freight...or, as individual
pieces at $75.00 per light or grille...which again includes freight!=A0=20= All=20
freight is figured on continental US only! I am set up to accept Visa,=20
Mastercard, Discover, or Amex for the purchase! Lee Collins...'86 vanago= n=20
GL...the goldbrick


Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
--part1_88.62eac5a.28281cda_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:07:12 -0400 Reply-To: Chad G Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Chad G Subject: 1.9L timing help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit all this discussion about timing........I feel like my van could be running better (more power etc). I'm taking it to the mechanic today..........where should I tell him to set timing at? thanks, Chad 85GL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:07:57 -0600 Reply-To: "Richard A. Jones" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Richard A. Jones" Subject: Re: fuses/air blower? Comments: To: lulumylulu@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Also make sure the problem is not the blower switch. Mine broke years ago and I remember comments about how common that was. Richard A. Jones '81 Vanagon Mr Bus '87 Syncro Westy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:05:55 -0700 Reply-To: Stuart MacMillan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stuart MacMillan Subject: Re: Tranny leaks a LOT of oil; HELP! Comments: To: Walter Gomes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I once ran a Saab tranny into the ground, though it didn't leak like yours. Eventually you will either loose several or all gears. If you want to get home and don't care about having a rebuildable core, keep going and add oil. I'd recommend a max speed of 50 and staying in the outside lane so you can roll onto the shoulder when it goes. Don't bother with any stop leak products, they are for drips, not floods! Good luck! -- Stuart MacMillan Seattle '84 Vanagon Westfalia w/2.1 '65 MGB (Daily driver since 1969) '74 MGB GT (Restoring sloooowly) Personal mechanic for: '70 MGB GT (Daughter's) Assisting on Restoration (and spending OPM): '72 MGB GT (Was daughter's, now son's) '64 MGB (Son's) Stripped and gone but their parts live on: '68 MGB, '73 MGB, '67 MGB GT ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:29:52 -0400 Reply-To: Stephen.Fry@bankofamerica.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stephen Fry Subject: Re: Tranny leaks a LOT of oil; HELP! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT (*What Would John Muir Do?) He would probably walk! My gosh it is monday arghh! Stephen 85' Westfalia ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:27:00 +0100 Reply-To: dmc@cyburban.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave M Subject: Heater/coolant hoses Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-type: text/plain Mime-version: 1.0 I recently fixed a perfortated coolant hose. This was the hose that comes from an outlet alongside the rear drivers side wheel and goes the full length of the van to the front heater core. The hose had rubbed where it passed over the rear axle boot. Since it was in otherwise good condition. I cut out the bad 4 inch portion. I then purchased a 12in length of 5/8in copper pipe and trimmed it to 10in. I pushed the copper pipe into the severed hose 3 inch at each end securing with two hose clamps. This left a 4inch length of bare copper pipe. This was protected by a length of bilge pump/discharge hose. This was 1in inside diameter white plastic concertina type hose I found at ACE hardware. This stuff would work great for protecting rubber hose running under the van. Eventually, I intend to replace both the rubber hoses running the length of the van to the front heater core with either copper or plastic pipe. Does anyone know how to access the hoses where they connect to the front heater core. Do I really have to remove the steering column and dashboard. I am hoping not. Also, all the plastic pipe I saw at ACE hardware said 'cold water pipe max 70 degrees F', am I right in assuming this is inadequate? - David '87 Wolfsburg ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 10:56:40 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: Fuel cells (NVC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone briefly explain how a fuel cell works? Are they generally understood to contain hydrogen? mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:12:34 -0600 Reply-To: Keith Adams Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Keith Adams Organization: TransCanada Subject: Re: Fuel cells (NVC) Comments: To: radish150 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See: http://www.globalte.com/fcmore-main.htm http://www.ballard.com/products.asp Two Canadian companies developing different kinds of fuel cells. Most fuel cells are abe to use different types of raw ffuel, but methane and hydrogen are the most popular. The problem with hydrogen is producing it (energy intensive) and storing/transporting it. Keith radish150 wrote: > Can someone briefly explain how a fuel cell works? Are they generally understood to contain hydrogen? > > mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:21:05 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Gough Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Gough Subject: Replace fuel injectors? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0D6F8.92236300" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0D6F8.92236300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wise List: I'm putting a new engine in my '86 Westy this week. Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles, originals)--only one worked = right. My wife and I are going to tour the whole country in this van--I'm = looking for very high reliability, and maximum gas mileage, of course. Should I try to get some used injectors, or cough up the $400 for new? = I can afford the cost, but have been advised to try to get used ones. I = lean toward new. Thanks very much, Steve ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0D6F8.92236300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Wise List:
 
I'm putting a new engine in my '86 = Westy this=20 week.
Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles,=20 originals)--only one worked right.
 
My wife and I are going to tour the = whole country=20 in this van--I'm looking for
very high reliability, and maximum gas = mileage, of=20 course.
 
Should I try to get some used = injectors, or cough=20 up the $400 for new?  I
can afford the cost, but have been = advised to try=20 to get used ones.  I lean
toward new.
 
Thanks very much,
 
Steve
------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C0D6F8.92236300-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:22:58 EDT Reply-To: CMathis227@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Chuck Mathis Subject: Re: 1.9L timing help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chad, Bentley says 5 degrees BeforeTopDeadCenter and VW provided a convenient v-notch in the pulley for this. There is also a half round notch in the middle lip for TopDeadCenter -- as you face the engine from the back it is a little finger width to the right of the BTDC mark. Some folks have advocated going to 5 or 6 degrees AfterTopDeadCenter. This would be about a little finger width to the right of the TDC mark. To do this you have to monkey with the idle speed screw. I tried this with my '85 automatic this weekend and it didn't work out all that well. The engine idled nicely but died as soon as I slipped it in gear. I changed the timing back to TDC (readjusting the idle accordingly) and it is much more drivable. Runs smooth, power is good and the hesitation is almost gone. I do need to add a caveat that I have a fairly rotten AFM and throttle position switch. The AFM is very clean and I've shifted the board as far as it will go but when the multimeter should be reading a smooth progression the needle is all over the dial. I'll try retiming again when I have the new AFM and TPS installed. Chuck '85 Wolfsburg Westy -- 'Roland the Road Buffalo' In a message dated Mon, 7 May 2001 12:04:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chad G writes: << all this discussion about timing........I feel like my van could be running better (more power etc). I'm taking it to the mechanic today..........where should I tell him to set timing at? thanks, Chad 85GL >> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:34:48 -0500 Reply-To: wilden1@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: Fuel cells (NVC) Comments: To: radish150@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! That's way too complicated! Try MIT, Berkley or PBS websites one of them is bound to have the five hundred page explination. Or just search on Hydrogen on www.hotbot.com Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia AirCooled On Mon, 7 May 2001 10:56:40 -0700 radish150 writes: > Can someone briefly explain how a fuel cell works? Are they generally > understood to contain hydrogen? > > mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:18:05 -0500 Reply-To: Jenny Loerzel Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Jenny Loerzel Subject: Chicagoland get together Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Everyone, A while back, I had asked if there was any interest in a Chicagoland area get together to show off our fine vehicles to one another. Sorry it is taking me so long getting back to everyone, I was in a severe accident (I got caught on fire) and am just now really getting back into the swing of things. So, I will pose the question again... Who among this fine list would be interested in a get together in the Chicagoland area for a day of bbq, chatting, and fun?? Please p-mail me if you are interested, as I am on digest mode :-) Take care, Jen Loerzel Karma Rose '87 Westy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:21:10 -0700 Reply-To: steve@syncro.org Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Schwenk Subject: Hollister Syncro Event Comments: To: "syncro@egroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to last minute cancellations, there are still a couple of spaces available for the May 18-20 Hollister Syncro Event (central Calif.). You don't have to have a syncro to attend. Thus far, there are about 25 vans and 60 people signed up. See http://www.concentric.net/~Sxs/hollister2001.shtml for details. Steve ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:22:03 -0400 Reply-To: Jay L Snyder Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Jay L Snyder Subject: Re: 1.9L timing help Comments: To: Chuck Mathis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You got it backwards. Bentley says 5 ATDC, try as much as 5 BTDC. 5 BTDC is the same distance to the left of the TDC as the notch is to the right. Clear as mud. Chuck Mathis on 05/07/2001 02:22:58 PM Please respond to CMathis227@aol.com To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM cc: (bcc: Jay L Snyder/AE/DuPont) Subject: Re: 1.9L timing help Chad, Bentley says 5 degrees BeforeTopDeadCenter and VW provided a convenient v-notch in the pulley for this. There is also a half round notch in the middle lip for TopDeadCenter -- as you face the engine from the back it is a little finger width to the right of the BTDC mark. Some folks have advocated going to 5 or 6 degrees AfterTopDeadCenter. This would be about a little finger width to the right of the TDC mark. To do this you have to monkey with the idle speed screw. I tried this with my '85 automatic this weekend and it didn't work out all that well. The engine idled nicely but died as soon as I slipped it in gear. I changed the timing back to TDC (readjusting the idle accordingly) and it is much more drivable. Runs smooth, power is good and the hesitation is almost gone. I do need to add a caveat that I have a fairly rotten AFM and throttle position switch. The AFM is very clean and I've shifted the board as far as it will go but when the multimeter should be reading a smooth progression the needle is all over the dial. I'll try retiming again when I have the new AFM and TPS installed. Chuck '85 Wolfsburg Westy -- 'Roland the Road Buffalo' In a message dated Mon, 7 May 2001 12:04:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chad G writes: << all this discussion about timing........I feel like my van could be running better (more power etc). I'm taking it to the mechanic today..........where should I tell him to set timing at? thanks, Chad 85GL >> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:36:51 -0700 Reply-To: Aristotle Sagan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Aristotle Sagan Subject: Re: Chicagoland get together Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Hello Everyone, >A while back, I had asked if there was any interest in a Chicagoland area >get together to show off our fine vehicles to one another. Sorry it is >taking me so long getting back to everyone, I was in a severe accident (I >got caught on fire) and am just now really getting back into the swing of >things. > J, Not only do you have to check the fuel lines in your vanagoner mobiles, but please check all fuel lines on your mohair sweaters also. Glad to hear you are doing OK. ChicagoLand is a bit far for us West Coasters to go. We will be with you in spirit though. tim o'brien san jose, CA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:34:12 -0400 Reply-To: cooper@bqmlaw.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Cooper, Jonathan R." Subject: FW: 85 Vanagon - leaking push rod tube? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was requested to share; This was the most comprehensive answer I got. Jonathan R. Cooper Brzytwa, Quick & McCrystal 900 Skylight Office Tower Cleveland, OH 44113 Cooper@BQMlaw.com -----Original Message----- From: Joel Walker [mailto:jwalker17@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:48 PM To: Cooper, Jonathan R. Subject: Re: 85 Vanagon - leaking push rod tube? > I have this new oil leak on the driver's side. I took the tin off and it > looks like the foremost pushrod tube is leaking. From scanning the archives > this looks like a likely solution. How hard is this to change out? What > tools do I need? How do I do it? Driveway job? Haynes appears to make me > remove valve covers and go from there. The last thing I want to get into is > the heads. Thanks. if you get the collapsible (spring-loaded) pushrod tubes, it's not toooo hard. can be done in a driveway. the worst part is the exhaust bolts ... as the rock-shield (protecting the pushrod tubes) is held on by those exhaust bolts. and those nuts on those bolts are rusty as hell. :( so start soaking them in Kroil or some other penetrating oil for several days before you go to work on it. and try that tapping-100-times thing that somebody recommended. you do NOT want any of those bolts to break off! :( once the shield is out of the way, you need to take the valve cover off (have a new gasket handy for when you put it back on). clean the cover and area around it BEFORE taking the cover off. you don't want any dirt falling into the rocker assembly or getting into the oil and flowing down into the engine. once the cover is off, you can see the rocker arm assembly. held on by simple nuts and washers. remove the whole thing as an assembly. do NOT take it apart. put it on a clean rag or something (keep the dog/cat/kids/wife out of the way!) in the same orientation that you took it off. that is, lay it out so you can put it back on the same way it came out. now you can get to the pushrod. simple pull it out and lay it aside, noting which end was at the rocker assembly. you want it to go back in the same way. there may be a big spring thingie in there. not sure on the watercools. on the aircools, it was there. anyway, if it's there, take it out but notice how it's held in place and which way it goes. now you can get to the pushrod tube itself. from underneath, where the shield was, just grip the tube with your hand and twist it ... you want to break the seals loose at each end. sometimes, the tube will collapse when you do this. just go ahead and pull it out if it does .... you've got a new tube. just be careful of the tube next to it. :) ok, now comes cleanup. get some solvent or gasoline (be careful!) and carefully clean the holes in the head and in the engine case where the ends of the tube were ... you want to get any old caked oil out of the holes before you put the new tube in. put the new seals on the new tube. i'd suggest greasing the outside of the seals just a bit with some axle grease or wheel bearing grease. it helps them seat in the cylinder head and engine case. then put the tube in place and let it pop into the holes. check to see if it's seated properly. now you can put the pushrod back. make SURE it's seated carefully and centered on the lifter at the engine end. you'll know it if it isn't when you crank it up ...such a racket you've never heard! :) then put the rocker assembly back on, taking care to make sure the pushrod tube is still centered at the lifter end and now under the rocker. tighten the nuts down and torque them to specs. you did put that big wire-thingie back, right? :) you might want to slap the valve cover back on with the old gasket first and crank the bus to see if the pushrod is where it should be. if it is, shut it off, pull the valve cover and put the new gasket in. i put some more grease on both sides of the gasket to hold it to the cover and to seal to the cylinder head until it swells up and seals itself. that's pretty much it. intimidating the first time. and Muir's book has a good writeup on it, with drawings. so what you'll need is ... - new collapsible pushrod tube. - seals for pushrod tube, both ends. - new valve cover gasket. - socket and ratchet ... i think it's 13mm, but i'm not sure. - screwdriver or claw hammer or brake adjusting tool (to get the valve cover off and back on). - clean rags to lay the stuff on. the key in this job is clean, clean, clean. keep that rocker and pushrod clean! :) good luck! joel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:48:43 -0500 Reply-To: Max Wellhouse Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Max Wellhouse Subject: Re: '86 Vanagon Headlight setup for sale Comments: To: KENWILFY@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03CA_01C0D704.CFCE03C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03CA_01C0D704.CFCE03C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gee, I got 2 buckets and a paro f each high and low beam lens housings = for $85 shipping included a while ago from a list member. Well, they = did need those $15 adjuster screw sets, so maybe I did get ripped off, = uhu? :<} DM&FS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: KENWILFY@aol.com=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:44 AM Subject: '86 Vanagon Headlight setup for sale This is a message that I am sending to the list for a customer. = Please=20 contact him at: lee@tees-n-you.com. Don't email me about this = because I am=20 merely doing this as a favour to him.=20 I have a new S.A. grille and lights coming from=20 Vanagain.com...(thanks,Ken!)...and I would like to offer my stock = square=20 set-up for sale...either as a complete set, at $200.00 US funds = including=20 freight...or, as individual=20 pieces at $75.00 per light or grille...which again includes freight! = All=20 freight is figured on continental US only! I am set up to accept Visa, = Mastercard, Discover, or Amex for the purchase! Lee Collins...'86 = vanagon=20 GL...the goldbrick=20 Thanks,=20 Ken Wilford=20 John 3:16=20 www.vanagain.com=20 Phone: (856)-765-1583=20 Fax: (856)-327-2242=20 ------=_NextPart_000_03CA_01C0D704.CFCE03C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gee, I got 2 buckets and a paro f each = high and low=20 beam lens housings for $85 shipping included a while ago from a list=20 member.  Well, they did need those $15 adjuster screw sets, so = maybe I did=20 get ripped off, uhu?    :<}
 
DM&FS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 KENWILFY@aol.com=20
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 = 10:44 AM
Subject: '86 Vanagon Headlight = setup for=20 sale

This is a = message that=20 I am sending to the list for a customer.  Please
contact him = at:=20  lee@tees-n-you.com. =  Don't=20 email me about this because I am
merely doing this as a favour to = him.=20

I have a new S.A. grille and lights coming from=20
Vanagain.com...(thanks,Ken!)...and I would like to offer my stock = square=20
set-up for sale...either as a complete set, at $200.00 US funds = including=20
freight...or, as individual
pieces at $75.00 per light or=20 grille...which again includes freight!  All
freight is = figured on=20 continental US only! I am set up to accept Visa,
Mastercard, = Discover, or=20 Amex for the purchase! Lee Collins...'86 vanagon
GL...the = goldbrick=20


Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com =
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242
=20
------=_NextPart_000_03CA_01C0D704.CFCE03C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:01:12 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: fuel cells MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.ballard.com/pem_animation.asp Check this out, click on the demo icon. Very cool. mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:58:57 EDT Reply-To: KAOsProds@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Keith Olsen Subject: FS 87 Wolfsburg NYC $2,500 Comments: To: CMathis227@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is with regret that I must sell BUZZO, Our family Vanagon. We just have too many cars and one has to go, so here are the particulars. 1987 Vanagon Wolfsburg 138k=20 Wolfram Grey, grey interior PS PB PW PM PL AC CC AT VW AM/FM-CASS the good: Has had a Rebuilt PS rack 35k ago Rebuilt Trans from Weddle Engineering 30K ago New muffler 10k ago Rebuilt heads with all the trimmings last year. Prestone extended life =93orange coolant=94=20 coolant distributor replaced last year all upper gas tank fittings replaced (no more leaks or fumes) 3k to 4k oil changes with mann / mahle filters Heavy duty contractor=92s tubular roof rack black (used for canoe only) snap in curtain set fold up table, back seat fold out bed and rear facing=20 jump seats. interior in good used condition No Alloys!=20 Standard steel rims with 70=92s bus hubcaps. Good matching rubber New Non-matching tire on spare 1 yr old =93shop rebuilt=93 starter 1 yr old brakes 4 month old battery Recent tune up with Rapid Parts =93Blue Ignitor=93 Wires Starts and runs and drives great I=92m the second owner all warrantee work had been done by dealer for PO. =20 Somewhere I have a full computer printout of all dealer maintenance done BY=20 THE Dealer until about 90K mi. however, I re-reinforced the AC unit above the back seats because that=92s=20 where my daughters ride! Just passed strict NY metro area saftey and emissions inspection including=20 DYNO test. the not so good: Power mirrors don=92t work by power anymore power locks work manual only cruise control works sometimes one jumpseat seatbelt broken one back speaker bad when fixing the temp sensor I jiggled something (a ground?) that has now=20 caused the oil light to blink after the engine goes over 2,500 RPM. Oil=20 pressure good, though Aux heater under back seat has that sweet coolant smell when you fire it up.= =20 Cold to hot slider control needs work. (you can turn it from cold to hot fro= m=20 the lever inside but from hot to cold requires getting under the front of th= e=20 van, getting the spare tire down and moving the heat off valve by hand) The body has some seam rust including a few strange patches behind the=20 drivers door and over the wheel well. =20 some rust thru in the little steps under the rubber in the door opening step= . one very light crease in the sliding door (still works perfectly) The front fiberglass bumber has a 3=94 piece missing from the top by the dri= ver=20 side corner. (PO=91s doing.) Summary: All and all still very presentable and functional=20 Presently registered and on the road. It went from Rhode Island to Florida and back last summer right after the ne= w=20 heads were installed and ran flawlessly.=20 It actually camps quite well, bed is very comfy and wider than a westy bed. The temp runs in the normal range always (just at the top of the light) the=20 fans run properly the AC blows pretty cold was recharged 2 years ago. It has three bumper stickers on the back which I think say it all, =93My karma ran over my dogma=93 =93BUZZO=93 =93keep the earth clean, it=92s not uranus=94 For the last 4 years my job has been transportation coordinator at the TV=20 Show Sesame Street. While I never had to go on formal =93runs=93 with this=20= van,=20 it has shuttled every actor and muppet at one time or another including both= =20 Mr. Noodles. (ask your kids) Big Bird says its a very cool rig and even sketched a cartoo= n=20 of him driving it and gave it to me as a little gift after I helped him out=20 one day.=20 $2,500 or Reasonable offer I am located 20 miles north of NY city So please P-mail me with requests and questions. I hope to have some=20 pictures available this weekend. =20 I=92ll be happy to show it, but, please be sure you are serious because=20 nothing gets my knickers in a knot like staying home on a weekend day for a=20 no-show. (it happed twice for my 82 diesel vanagon and 3 times for my 79=20 bus!) Email KaosProds@aol.com Keith 87 Vanagon 81 diesel pickup 85 diesel golf (parts) 93 Saturn 00 Saturn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:07:03 -0700 Reply-To: s m Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: s m Subject: Rear engine compartment drain plugs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello I just got done cleaning up and sealing the rear engine compartment seams with POR-15 and was wondering if it is a good idea to remove the drain plugs on either side of the compartment where the water comes in from the rear vents. Why are they there in the first place? thanks smanning Der Busbisitzer Gruppe '84 westy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:25:10 EDT Reply-To: CMathis227@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Chuck Mathis Subject: Re: 1.9L timing help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh Jay, I got the Before and After TDC confused but the factory timing notch is to the left of the TDC notch on my pulley. Are you sitting on top of the engine to time it? Chuck In a message dated Mon, 7 May 2001 3:30:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jay L Snyder writes: << You got it backwards. Bentley says 5 ATDC, try as much as 5 BTDC. 5 BTDC is the same distance to the left of the TDC as the notch is to the right. Clear as mud.>> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:21:46 -0700 Reply-To: Brian Cochran Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian Cochran Subject: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about fellow list member, Chris Turner. I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the following. Chris (as he often goes by on the list) often advertises parts. I just saw some today. Well, over seven weeks back, in the second week of March (maybe earlier), Chris Turner advertised some interior parts. I had been looking for the "valence"/curtain rod cover that goes over the curtain rod on the passenger side rearmost side window. These were only on 80 to 84 westfalia types. Well Chris answered that he did have the part. I then asked about the curtain tie-backs which I also discovered that I didn't have. You see, I had just aquired the bentley manual, so there were all these interior shots with parts I was missing. So I added those in to my request to buy from Chris. He wanted an amount, I wanted a lower amount. We finally settled on $25 plus seven for shipping. I sent him out a check within a day or two. He must of had the check by the start of the last week of march. I got my parts today, May 7th!!! I sent him repeated emails asking what the hold up was. Six weeks. He mailed it out on Apr. 30th for $3.45 (not $7 as he charged). Now, this alone wouldn't drive me to a public complaint, but WHAT I received added in with all of this would merit a letter! The Valence cover was cracked in two places. Sure, it was old and yellowed, but for what I paid..... NOT ACCEPTABLE! The curtain tie-backs were in there. Five brown and one white. Not exactly matching, but ok. But the deal was for these AND the HARDWARE!! I didn't get the hardware. I'm missing the snaps, the screws, and who knows what else. I'm more than mad. It's not about what I spent, or how long I waited, or what I received. It's the ugly combination of all irresponsible action. Boycott Chris Turner. Who knows, maybe he should lose list privledges for a while (sanctioned) I'm not against selling things over the list, but are we not here to help each other with our vanagons? We are not here solely to profit from each other. Or are we? Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my interactions with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper. Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!! I plan on re-running this ad everytime I see him with something on the list for sale!! Sincerely, Brian Cochran Seattle WA 84 westy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:40:48 -0600 Reply-To: jbrush@aros.net Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Brush Subject: Re: Do you store your Vanagon over the Winter? Need help answering a question. Comments: To: Robert Lilley In-Reply-To: >An insurance company is telling me that my fuel tank suddenly rusted out >and caused the engine problems, because it was not run for about a month >while parked. The insurance company is out of its league. Of all the things that happen 'suddenly' on an automobile, 'rusting out' ain't one of them. >When you store your Vanagon does your fuel tank rust out, requiring you >to buy a new fuel tank every year? I don't drive my van often in the winter, it just sits in the garage most of the time with nothing special being done to it, other than keeping the gas tank full. After several hundred thousand miles, I suppose it could "suddenly rust through" but so far, no problems. :) Even in the summer, the van has sometimes sat for 4 weeks without me giving it any thought. There is an area on the top of the tank where water will collect and can cause rusting on the tank that may eventually rust through, but that is not a function of leaving the van sitting for a month. John ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:03 -0700 Reply-To: '80 Westy Pokey Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: '80 Westy Pokey Subject: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE your van? Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 I just moved a 1950's fridge I sold on eBay (no I haven't learned my leson yet) to the freight forwarder inside my westy. It was 62"x34"x33"... so large in fact that I had to remove the rear cushion and unscrew and remove the Z-bed to get it in. Total weight was 535lbs. Do I have a record? I doubt it... what is the biggest, heaviest, or most bulky item you've carried inside your van? Thanks, Chris Gronski '80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY '87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer '91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertable www.vanagon.org & .ca www.gronski.com, .org, & .ca www.nineeleven.org & .ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:52:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Pedersen, Michael" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Pedersen, Michael" Subject: '88 Brakes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's time to do a brake job on the van. Any recommendations from the list as to what pads and shoes to install or to avoid? Any experience with drilled rotors? The van is an automatic, so it's more susceptible to fade than manuals (don't downshift). I realize that this will cost more than on your average vehicle, so I'm looking for the best value, not necessarily the cheapest. I've done brakes before on other vehicles, so I'm not looking for generalities. I did try to search the archive but didn't have much luck, if this has been discussed ad infinitum, could you point me to a time frame? Thanks, Mike Pedersen 88 Westie (no name yet) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:02:47 -0700 Reply-To: steve@syncro.org Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Schwenk Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? Comments: To: '80 Westy Pokey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1,500 lbs. of syncro springs. It rode like it just had a regular camp load in it! '80 Westy Pokey wrote: > > I just moved a 1950's fridge I sold on eBay (no I haven't learned my leson yet) to the freight forwarder inside my westy. It was 62"x34"x33"... so large in fact that I had to remove the rear cushion and unscrew and remove the Z-bed to get it in. Total weight was 535lbs. Do I have a record? I doubt it... what is the biggest, heaviest, or most bulky item you've carried inside your van? > > Thanks, > Chris Gronski > '80 Westy "Pokey" - SLOPOKEY > '87 Chevrolet Sprint - Ice Racer > '91 Pontiac Firefly - Convertable > www.vanagon.org & .ca > www.gronski.com, .org, & .ca > www.nineeleven.org & .ca ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:10:46 EDT Reply-To: VeeDubVan@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: - Lauren Pelzer Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_41.b366811.28287766_boundary" --part1_41.b366811.28287766_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/01 5:57:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rangerbrian@hotmail.com writes: > Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my interactions > with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper. > Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!! > > I bought a starter from Chris last fall. No problems with the part, or the transaction. I live close enough to drive to his house, I was VERY late getting there, yet he was still quite friendly. His yard is extremely neat and clean - and he seemed very organized to me. It's a shame you had this problem with him - I'm a little surprised. -Lauren --part1_41.b366811.28287766_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/01 5:57:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rangerbrian@hotmail.com writes:


Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my interactions
with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper.
Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!!



I bought a starter from Chris last fall.  No problems with the part, or the
transaction.  I live close enough to drive to his house, I was VERY late
getting there, yet he was still quite friendly.  His yard is extremely neat
and clean - and he seemed very organized to me.  It's a shame you had this
problem with him - I'm a little surprised.
-Lauren


 
--part1_41.b366811.28287766_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:11:26 MDT Reply-To: Joe Fortino Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Fortino Subject: Re: [avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings..] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Joe Brian Cochran wrote: Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about fell= ow list member, Chris Turner. I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the followi= ng. Chris (as he often goes by on the list) often advertises parts. I just s= aw some today. Well, over seven weeks back, in the second week of March (maybe earlier), Chris Turner advertised some interior parts. I had been= looking for the "valence"/curtain rod cover that goes over the curtain ro= d on the passenger side rearmost side window. These were only on 80 to 84 westfalia types. Well Chris answered that he did have the part. I then asked about the curtain tie-backs which I also discovered that I didn't have. You see, I had just aquired the bentley manual, so there were all these interior shots with parts I was missing. So I added those in to m= y request to buy from Chris. He wanted an amount, I wanted a lower amount.= We finally settled on $25 plus seven for shipping. I sent him out a chec= k within a day or two. He must of had the check by the start of the last w= eek of march. I got my parts today, May 7th!!! I sent him repeated emails asking what = the hold up was. Six weeks. He mailed it out on Apr. 30th for $3.45 (not $= 7 as he charged). Now, this alone wouldn't drive me to a public complaint, but WHAT I recei= ved added in with all of this would merit a letter! The Valence cover was cracked in two places. Sure, it was old and yellowed, but for what I paid..... NOT ACCEPTABLE! The curtain tie-backs were in there. Five br= own and one white. Not exactly matching, but ok. But the deal was for these= AND the HARDWARE!! I didn't get the hardware. I'm missing the snaps, th= e screws, and who knows what else. I'm more than mad. It's not about what= I spent, or how long I waited, or what I received. It's the ugly combinatio= n of all irresponsible action. Boycott Chris Turner. Who knows, maybe he should lose list privledges for a while (sanctioned) I'm not against selling things over the list, but are we not here to help= each other with our vanagons? We are not here solely to profit from each= other. Or are we? Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my interacti= ons with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper. Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!! I plan on re-running this ad everytime I see him with something on the li= st for sale!! Sincerely, Brian Cochran Seattle WA 84 westy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:18:11 -0400 Reply-To: puzerewski Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: puzerewski Subject: 2 liter heads for sale. Comments: To: type2@type2.com I have two rebuilt 2 liter square exhaust port heads for sale $150 each or $300 for the pair less than 5k on them. Van was totaled and I know the PO, as well as the shop that put on the heads. pmail interest. Adam Puzerewski 81 westy 74 beetle 73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) Vanagon Partsmobiles ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:36:34 -0700 Reply-To: Zoltan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Zoltan Subject: '86 Running very rich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E0_01C0D70B.7F3892C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E0_01C0D70B.7F3892C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zoltan=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: '86 Running very rich Hi guys, This car runs but it uses quite a bit more gas than it should. What are the sensors that need to be changed to make sure that all = possible trouble makers are eliminated. =20 Zoltan ------=_NextPart_000_02E0_01C0D70B.7F3892C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Zoltan
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: '86 Running very rich

Hi guys,
This car runs but it uses quite a bit = more gas than=20 it should.
What are the sensors that need to = be changed=20 to make sure that all possible trouble makers are eliminated. =20
Zoltan
------=_NextPart_000_02E0_01C0D70B.7F3892C0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:34:05 -0700 Reply-To: dawn Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: dawn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the heavyest thing I carried in my vanagon was 1600 lbs of concrete .80lbs bags 20 of them. Darrel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:45:07 -0700 Reply-To: Matthew Pollard Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Matthew Pollard Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner>.. He's ok w/ me! Comments: To: Brian Cochran In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've purchased a bunch of things from him over the years and have never had any problems. His prices were reasonable and he got me the things in a reasonable amount of time. I'm sorry that you've had these problems with him. Thanks for giving us a 'heads up' but he is providing a tremendous service to the folks on the list that don't have the availability of these parts, like me- and obviously you and some others. I'll continue to get stuff from him. I also shop at the bus depot and vanagain.com- two other reputable list vendors that have had flare-up in the past. Matthew 84 weekender maybe i'll start a g*n tread? :-) Matthew Pollard http://www.uidaho.edu/~poll7356 Dept. of Chemistry http://www.chem.uidaho.edu University of Idaho http://www.uidaho.edu On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian Cochran wrote: > Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about fellow > list member, Chris Turner. > > I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go > thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the following. > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:53:04 -0700 Reply-To: "Thomas D. Hanlon" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Thomas D. Hanlon" Subject: Re: Replace fuel injectors? Comments: To: Steve Gough MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, See............ http://euro-drive.com/fuel_injectors.htm...for an idea. I remembered that Vanagon injectors can be "reconditioned," but I have no idea where. If you find out, let me know, please. Tom Hanlon Palm Springs, CA 84 Westfalia Steve Gough wrote: > Dear Wise List: I'm putting a new engine in my '86 Westy this > week.Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles, originals)--only one > worked right. My wife and I are going to tour the whole country in > this van--I'm looking forvery high reliability, and maximum gas > mileage, of course. Should I try to get some used injectors, or cough > up the $400 for new? Ican afford the cost, but have been advised to > try to get used ones. I leantoward new. Thanks very much, Steve ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:57:35 EST Reply-To: Andrew Payton Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Payton Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dunno man, I'm just curious if you said somethin to him before you expr= essed yourself on the list. I bought a bed cushion from him & didn't have any problems; sent the money for shipping (he was giving it free) & received = it in a timely fashion. I guess I'd just say that no one's perfect man. At th= e same time, there's appropriate actions to take when something like this o= ccurs b/c no one likes to run bad business - & other people know about it. -Andrew Brian Cochran wrote: > Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about fe= llow > list member, Chris Turner. > = > I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go > thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the following. > = > Chris (as he often goes by on the list) often advertises parts. I just= saw > some today. Well, over seven weeks back, in the second week of March > (maybe earlier), Chris Turner advertised some interior parts. I had be= en > looking for the "valence"/curtain rod cover that goes over the curtain = rod > on the passenger side rearmost side window. These were only on 80 to 8= 4 > westfalia types. Well Chris answered that he did have the part. I the= n > asked about the curtain tie-backs which I also discovered that I didn't= > have. You see, I had just aquired the bentley manual, so there were al= l > these interior shots with parts I was missing. So I added those in to= my > request to buy from Chris. He wanted an amount, I wanted a lower amoun= t. > We finally settled on $25 plus seven for shipping. I sent him out a ch= eck > within a day or two. He must of had the check by the start of the last= week > of march. > = > I got my parts today, May 7th!!! I sent him repeated emails asking wha= t the > hold up was. Six weeks. He mailed it out on Apr. 30th for $3.45 (not= $7 > as he charged). > = > Now, this alone wouldn't drive me to a public complaint, but WHAT I received > added in with all of this would merit a letter! The Valence cover was > cracked in two places. Sure, it was old and yellowed, but for what I > paid..... NOT ACCEPTABLE! The curtain tie-backs were in there. Five brown > and one white. Not exactly matching, but ok. But the deal was for the= se > AND the HARDWARE!! I didn't get the hardware. I'm missing the snaps, = the > screws, and who knows what else. I'm more than mad. It's not about wh= at I > spent, or how long I waited, or what I received. It's the ugly combinat= ion > of all irresponsible action. > = > Boycott Chris Turner. > Who knows, maybe he should lose list privledges for a while (sanctioned= ) > = > I'm not against selling things over the list, but are we not here to he= lp > each other with our vanagons? We are not here solely to profit from ea= ch > other. Or are we? Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my interactions > with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper. > Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!! > = > I plan on re-running this ad everytime I see him with something on the = list > for sale!! > = > Sincerely, > Brian Cochran > Seattle WA > 84 westy > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:59:57 -0700 Reply-To: "Thomas D. Hanlon" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Thomas D. Hanlon" Subject: Re: Replace fuel injectors?-Item 2..... Comments: To: Steve Gough MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, See.....http://www.fuelinjectors.com/...too... Tom. Steve Gough wrote: > Dear Wise List: I'm putting a new engine in my '86 Westy this > week.Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles, originals)--only one > worked right. My wife and I are going to tour the whole country in > this van--I'm looking forvery high reliability, and maximum gas > mileage, of course. Should I try to get some used injectors, or cough > up the $400 for new? Ican afford the cost, but have been advised to > try to get used ones. I leantoward new. Thanks very much, Steve ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:06:30 -0700 Reply-To: phil stanhope Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: phil stanhope Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? In-Reply-To: <3AF71B87.90B5A0E8@syncro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Right before moving from California back to Florida, I emtied out a 5'X10' storage room (everthing i owned) and managed to fit ALL of it in my Westy and I still could crawl back to the rear bed to rest at rest stops. The rear suspension was all the way bottomed out and I even fit 5 short surfboards+2 long surfboards on the roof! It handled like a Peterbuilt all the way to Florida! Phil 84' white Westfalia "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL "Sh*thawk" (Tiico on order) B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:11:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Smola, Tony" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Smola, Tony" Subject: 1.9 L timing Comments: To: "groch@worldchat.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Chad, I set mine at 6 degrees BTDC, 42 degrees full advance.....the throttle body idle speed screw will be set at 1/2 turn to achieve proper idle, but then you will want to adjust one additional turn for drivability. I initiated this talk about hanging the timing on the 1.9 L motor. I have had this way for years. You will thank me again and again...... Malibu Tony...... ps: make sure all of your vacuum lines are in excellent condition......little ones and larger ones as well...and check the breather hose between the oil breather tower and the intake boot, it should not be collapsed..... T Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:07:12 -0400 From: Chad G Subject: 1.9L timing help all this discussion about timing........I feel like my van could be running better (more power etc). I'm taking it to the mechanic today..........where should I tell him to set timing at? thanks, Chad 85GL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:17:25 -0400 Reply-To: Joe Romas Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Romas Subject: Re: quick idle with ac on Comments: To: Daniel Johnston MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On my 84 there is a solenoid operated valve over on the right front side of the engine compartment that raises the idle by letting more air in when the ac is on. I would guess there is vacume leak in a hose in that area. If you have power steering there's a second valve that operates when you crank the steering wheel hard. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Johnston" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: quick idle with ac on > My 87 runs great, yet when i put on the a/c it instantly goes up to > 2,000 rpm. Switching off the a/c brings it back down to 1,000. Any > suggestions for trouble shooting is problem would be greatly welcomed. > dan > 87 westie > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:16:57 EDT Reply-To: Awf986@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "John \"Shaggy\" Donovan" Subject: I-4 conversion begins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got rid the free diesel that I stripped last week, and my 87'GL replaced it that same day. I just got a free 85 golf engine(code GX) and wiring harness, so the project to starting to make some headway, parts wise at least! I aquired an intake and exhaust manifold from a 82 Quantom wagon also. so now it's time to start swapping it all. Any insight on wiring or what else may be a problem(accelerator cable?) would be helpfull. thanks again. shaggy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:19:58 MDT Reply-To: Joe Fortino Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Fortino Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan?] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find out what my van will hold this month when I use it to move, but i need to be able to see out the windows,, haha wait.. I've had 6 cyclists 6 bikes in the van, and my wife fully loaded tring to make it up route 160 in las vegas.. 40mph limpin Joe phil stanhope wrote: Right before moving from California back to Florida, I emtied out a 5'X10' storage room (everthing i owned) and managed to fit ALL of it in my Westy and I still could crawl back to the rear bed to rest at rest stops. The rear suspension was all the way bottomed out and I even fit 5 short surfboards+2 long surfboards on the roof! It handled like a Peterbuilt all the way to Florida! Phil 84' white Westfalia "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL "Sh*thawk" (Tiico on order) B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:25:09 -0400 Reply-To: Joe Romas Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Romas Subject: Re: Engine reving? Comments: To: dscrkjohns@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a "idle stabilizer" located on the left side to the front of the engine compartment. It's the second "box" from the front that has 2 round plugs. When they go bad that is what they do I'm told. If yours is a 1.9 or air cooled they are fifty dollars, 2.1 they are more. However the good news is you just put the two round plugs together and problem solved! You idle may be slightly uneven. If it does not cure the problem, look for air leaks. Find somebody that knows a little more then you and maybe the two of you can do what I've just described. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonia Johnson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Engine reving? > Hello vana-experts, > > This is probably a simple repair--but oil changes and routine maintenance > are about the extent of my auto knowledge. Problem is when I start the > engine, it revs up to about 3500 to 4000 and wants to stay there. I'm > driving with my foot on the brake, and turning off when I hit a stop > light. This happened suddenly- it was fine yesterday, this morning it > started. Do I just need to adjust the idle, or is there more to this? > > Help! Sonia J > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:24:05 -0700 Reply-To: Karl Wolz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Karl Wolz Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan?] Comments: To: Joe Fortino Shoot, I've had five cyclists and five bikes in and on a bug! Karl Wolz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Fortino" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan?] I find out what my van will hold this month when I use it to move, but i need to be able to see out the windows,, haha wait.. I've had 6 cyclists 6 bikes in the van, and my wife fully loaded tring to make it up route 160 in las vegas.. 40mph limpin Joe phil stanhope wrote: Right before moving from California back to Florida, I emtied out a 5'X10' storage room (everthing i owned) and managed to fit ALL of it in my Westy and I still could crawl back to the rear bed to rest at rest stops. The rear suspension was all the way bottomed out and I even fit 5 short surfboards+2 long surfboards on the roof! It handled like a Peterbuilt all the way to Florida! Phil 84' white Westfalia "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL "Sh*thawk" (Tiico on order) B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:43:48 -0700 Reply-To: Brian Cochran Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian Cochran Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings.. Comments: To: puzerewski@email.msn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My thoughts exactly!! two or three weeks, even four were not a problem for me! >From: "puzerewski" >To: "Brian Cochran" >Subject: Re: [VANAGON] avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : >bad dealings.. >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:26:16 -0400 > >I had a similar experience a year ago where it took him 6 weeks to mail >something. I have added him about a month ago to my blocked senders list. > >In Dec. last year he was selling an 89 and I called him about it, and it >completely turned me off. The guy was sort of in a fog, and would not >truly >answer my questions. sORTA MADE ME WONDER WHEN HE WASN'T SURE THIS CAR >COULD MAKE A 700 MILE TRIP WHEN HE IS HAWKING EVERY THING UNDER THE SUN >RELATED TO VANAGONS. (oops hit the caps key) > >When I sell or buy something I act promptly, not when I get around to >it................. > > >Adam Puzerewski > >81 westy >74 beetle >73 Transporter (new!!!!!!!) > >Vanagon Partsmobiles >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Cochran" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 5:21 PM >Subject: [VANAGON] avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad >dealings.. > > > > Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about >fellow > > list member, Chris Turner. > > > > I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go > > thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the >following. > > > > Chris (as he often goes by on the list) often advertises parts. I just >saw > > some today. Well, over seven weeks back, in the second week of March > > (maybe earlier), Chris Turner advertised some interior parts. I had >been > > looking for the "valence"/curtain rod cover that goes over the curtain >rod > > on the passenger side rearmost side window. These were only on 80 to 84 > > westfalia types. Well Chris answered that he did have the part. I then > > asked about the curtain tie-backs which I also discovered that I didn't > > have. You see, I had just aquired the bentley manual, so there were all > > these interior shots with parts I was missing. So I added those in to >my > > request to buy from Chris. He wanted an amount, I wanted a lower >amount. > > We finally settled on $25 plus seven for shipping. I sent him out a >check > > within a day or two. He must of had the check by the start of the last >week > > of march. > > > > I got my parts today, May 7th!!! I sent him repeated emails asking what >the > > hold up was. Six weeks. He mailed it out on Apr. 30th for $3.45 (not >$7 > > as he charged). > > > > Now, this alone wouldn't drive me to a public complaint, but WHAT I >received > > added in with all of this would merit a letter! The Valence cover was > > cracked in two places. Sure, it was old and yellowed, but for what I > > paid..... NOT ACCEPTABLE! The curtain tie-backs were in there. Five >brown > > and one white. Not exactly matching, but ok. But the deal was for >these > > AND the HARDWARE!! I didn't get the hardware. I'm missing the snaps, >the > > screws, and who knows what else. I'm more than mad. It's not about >what >I > > spent, or how long I waited, or what I received. It's the ugly >combination > > of all irresponsible action. > > > > Boycott Chris Turner. > > Who knows, maybe he should lose list privledges for a while (sanctioned) > > > > I'm not against selling things over the list, but are we not here to >help > > each other with our vanagons? We are not here solely to profit from >each > > other. Or are we? Chris wasn't friendly at all with any of my >interactions > > with him, and as you have read, the problems ran deeper. > > Boycott Chris Turner (JordanVW@AOL.com)!!!! > > > > I plan on re-running this ad everytime I see him with something on the >list > > for sale!! > > > > Sincerely, > > Brian Cochran > > Seattle WA > > 84 westy > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:53:03 -0400 Reply-To: Timothy Hannink Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Timothy Hannink Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This past weekend I had the entire contents of my sons dorm room (GO Gators!) inside Goldibox. The heaviest load was 1200 lbs. of Pergo flooring, three adults and a child. I had to put the fridge and the jumpseat behind the back seat to make room on the floor. Had it in a VW show the next day. About 8 years ago, I had a pallet of data cable (40,000 ft) forklifted into the back of my '75 Bus and drove it from Orlando to Gainesville. Tim Hannink Winter Park, Florida Goldibox - 1987 Wolfsburg Edition Westfalia Camper http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=1443607 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:57:06 -0400 Reply-To: Gary Stearns Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Gary Stearns Subject: Re: Replace fuel injectors? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_36wSl+iOIrJadySZxfgRxQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_36wSl+iOIrJadySZxfgRxQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I too understand that they can be reconditioned. Try Marren Motor Sports http://www.injector.com/ They are pretty well respected in racing circles for being injector wizards. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Gough To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Replace fuel injectors? Dear Wise List: I'm putting a new engine in my '86 Westy this week. Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles, originals)--only one worked right. My wife and I are going to tour the whole country in this van--I'm looking for very high reliability, and maximum gas mileage, of course. Should I try to get some used injectors, or cough up the $400 for new? I can afford the cost, but have been advised to try to get used ones. I lean toward new. Thanks very much, Steve --Boundary_(ID_36wSl+iOIrJadySZxfgRxQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I too understand that they can be reconditioned.  Try Marren Motor Sports http://www.injector.com/
They are pretty well respected in racing circles for being injector wizards.
 
Gary
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:21 PM
Subject: Replace fuel injectors?

Dear Wise List:
 
I'm putting a new engine in my '86 Westy this week.
Tested old fuel injectors (180K miles, originals)--only one worked right.
 
My wife and I are going to tour the whole country in this van--I'm looking for
very high reliability, and maximum gas mileage, of course.
 
Should I try to get some used injectors, or cough up the $400 for new?  I
can afford the cost, but have been advised to try to get used ones.  I lean
toward new.
 
Thanks very much,
 
Steve
--Boundary_(ID_36wSl+iOIrJadySZxfgRxQ)-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:01:18 -0700 Reply-To: mike miller Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: mike miller Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan?] Comments: To: Karl Wolz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harleys and Hells Angels, I presume? ----- Original Message ----- From: Karl Wolz To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan?] > Shoot, I've had five cyclists and five bikes in and on a bug! > > Karl Wolz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Fortino" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE > yourvan?] > > > I find out what my van will hold this month when I use it > to move, but i need to be able to see out the windows,, haha > > wait.. I've had 6 cyclists 6 bikes in the van, and my wife > fully loaded tring to make it up route 160 in las vegas.. 40mph limpin > > Joe > > > > phil stanhope wrote: > Right before moving from California back to Florida, I > emtied out a 5'X10' storage room (everthing i owned) > and managed to fit ALL of it in my Westy and I still > could crawl back to the rear bed to rest at rest > stops. > The rear suspension was all the way bottomed out and > I even fit 5 short surfboards+2 long surfboards on the > roof! > > It handled like a Peterbuilt all the way to Florida! > > Phil 84' > white Westfalia > "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) > 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL > "Sh*thawk" (Tiico on order) > B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:07:46 -0400 Reply-To: Gary Stearns Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Gary Stearns Subject: Re: '88 Brakes MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not so sure I'd go with drilled rotors. Can be noisy, and unless done very carefully can be prone to thermal stress and cracking. If you want to do it right go with vented rotors ala Van Again www.vanagain.com. Our non vented '88 has never faded. I've always stayed on top of changing brake fluid to get rid of moisture (heat boils the moisture in the fluid witch seems to "fade" the brakes). Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedersen, Michael" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: '88 Brakes > It's time to do a brake job on the van. Any recommendations from the list > as to what pads and shoes to install or to avoid? Any experience with > drilled rotors? The van is an automatic, so it's more susceptible to fade > than manuals (don't downshift). I realize that this will cost more than on > your average vehicle, so I'm looking for the best value, not necessarily the > cheapest. I've done brakes before on other vehicles, so I'm not looking for > generalities. I did try to search the archive but didn't have much luck, if > this has been discussed ad infinitum, could you point me to a time frame? > > Thanks, > > Mike Pedersen > 88 Westie (no name yet) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:27:08 -0400 Reply-To: Ron Mighton Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Ron Mighton Subject: Chris Turner is a good vendor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I just wanted to say that I have dealt on two occasions with Chris Turner and was completely satisfied both times. I also find Chris is often posting helpful advice to the list. I guess nobodys perfect but Chris is IN MY OPINION an asset to the list. I also recognize problems occur and these can usually be worked out by through cooperative communication. If Chris charged $7 for shipping isn't he due a small charge for his time for packing and the time & trouble of actually doing the mailing. $7 seems more than fair to me. Ron Mighton Toronto, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:37:52 EDT Reply-To: FrankGRUN@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Frank Grunthaner Subject: Re: I-4 conversion timing problem - no problem! Comments: To: kitzmann@exis.net, WarmerWagen@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentlemen, I have been rather surprised at the responses received over the issue of timing an I-4 conversion using the diesel bellhousing! Read Bentley (worthless collection of shop notes masquerading as a shop manual)! It is just as important to know the location of TDC in the diesel application as for any gas engine. Now the following applies to any conversion that used the original diesel flywheel and bellhousing in the conversion. Referring to the Bentley (same info in any manual that treats the diesel, e.g., the early Clymers, Chiltons, Motors etc.) in section 13.20 (Figure 13-597) you will see the TDC mark alignment through the bell housing inspection port. Using this as a hard reference, you can go to the front pulley, and observe the arrow alignment to pulley cast in the plastic belt guard. After confirming this alignment rotate the pulley slowly to line up 6 degrees or your pleasure, then go back to the flywheel with chisel. Whack! Now you have an easily accessible timing mark. I actually did the marking on the bench before I put the engine in. I marked the flywheel edge in 5 degree increments up to 35 degrees so I could follow the advance curve. I always use a 12 volt powered light for brightness, but I'm too cheap to buy a dial-in. Frank Grunthaner ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:40:15 EDT Reply-To: BusladyOfSoCal@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Gina Godat Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49.b125264.28289a6f_boundary" --part1_49.b125264.28289a6f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dont care what anyone says I would if I could , buy a whole vanagon from Chris... --part1_49.b125264.28289a6f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I dont care what anyone says I would if I could , buy a whole vanagon from
Chris...
--part1_49.b125264.28289a6f_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:57:01 EDT Reply-To: SyncrogalVW@cs.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Loretta Abbott-Kennon Subject: Re: Chris Turner is a good vendor Comments: To: rmighton@passport.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4c.14d55f47.28289e5d_boundary" --part1_4c.14d55f47.28289e5d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree! I have no complaints, in fact I just placed another order from Chris today. Making these parts available to us on the list is a valuable service and I appreciate it. Parts for our vehicles are increasingly difficult to come by and I am glad to have Chris out there taking the time to find these parts and sell them on the list. I did wait a long time for my last order to arrive but it did get here and was what I expected. I have learned to take everything a little slower now anyway since owning a Vanagon! -Loretta 87 Syncro 90 GL --part1_4c.14d55f47.28289e5d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree!  I have no complaints, in fact I just placed another order from
Chris today.  Making these parts available to us on the list is a valuable
service and I appreciate it.  Parts for our vehicles are increasingly
difficult to come by and I am glad to have Chris out there taking the time to
find these parts and sell them on the list.  I did wait a long time for my
last order to arrive but it did get here and was what I expected.  I have
learned to take everything a little slower now anyway since owning a Vanagon!
-Loretta
87 Syncro
90 GL
--part1_4c.14d55f47.28289e5d_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:04:03 EDT Reply-To: FrankGRUN@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Frank Grunthaner Subject: Diesel Performance and Salem Witch Trials MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find myself saddened by the vituperous denigradation of the performance of the Vanagon Westfalia Diesel that has recently graced the pages of this list. As I have noted previously, I have owned one of these engineering masterpieces since taking delivery at the Westfalia factory in Weidenbruck in July of 1982. Recently, as I have been researching some engineering issues regarding the turbocharging of my Digifant 8V 1.8L gasoline powered transplant, I have had occasion to obtain some of the original German language technical articles that described the work entailed in the adaptation of the VW 1.6L diesel to the vanagon. These articles show that the engineering target at the time was the performance benchmark of the 1.6L air cooled gasoline engine version of the transporter which was the highest volume production vanagon of the period. As the article clearly documents (measurements, not anecdotal evidence) the diesel vanagon outperformed its benzin-powered stablemate. I have recently completed a translation of this article. I must yet incorporate the figures in a more modest size at which point I can offer it to one of the lists web sites or pass on the translated paper by email to those desirous. Diesel performance - blows the doors off all Air Cooled campers that have come before. We here in the US simply don't know how to drive and appreciate the thing. Not forgetting superb reliability and minimal cost of ownership. Inability to readily ignite with leaking fuel lines or upon the unhappy occasion of a vigorous rear ending by a soccer mom. I could go on, but discretion... Frank Grunthaner ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:13:49 -0600 Reply-To: Tim Clemmer Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Tim Clemmer Subject: Re: avoid Chris Turner (JordanVW)!!!! Boycott!! : bad dealings.. In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I bought a table from Chris last fall. After some nagging, he finally sent it. It looked like it was in a fire. I will never buy anything from Chris again. Tim Golden, CO 84 GL on 5/7/01 3:21 PM, Brian Cochran at rangerbrian@hotmail.com wrote: > Gather 'round fellow vanagoneers! I've got a story to tell you about fellow > list member, Chris Turner. > > I'm one to blow whistles only when a bad egg is out there, so don't go > thinking that I'm jumping to conclusions until after you read the following. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:15:18 EDT Reply-To: Awf986@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "John \"Shaggy\" Donovan" Subject: I-4 conversion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit which fuel pump do I want to use? stock 87 vanagon GL or the fuel pump from the donor engine the 85 Golf? shaggy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:11:20 -0700 Reply-To: Eric Nettles Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Eric Nettles Subject: 87 Wolfy Running Rich, -Idle Stab Removed, AFM checked, O2 New, Temp2 New, and on and on... In-Reply-To: <022c01c0d74c$f57b9fe0$035a5a5a@joe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy Volks, I am trying to remedy a problem with plugs fouling with black soot, poor mileage, backfiring, and general PITA conditions. No power, Seems like the rhythm is just off, especially since the muffler and cat are off right now. Here's what I have done... The Dist. Cap and rotor are new, plugs just replaced. (Though the old ones might be ok after a good cleaning.) Cat is clean (Spent 4 hrs cutting bolts this afternoon to find out it wasn't the trouble) temp 2 is new (But the other one, with 2 spade connectors, is old and definitely bad, what is it anyway? Could it be the culprit?) The AFM looks good, there are two definite tracks, but no indentations and not anything revealing excessive wear. My Idle Stabilizer is out due to a burned out resistor in the top L corner (sure, if anyone knows what ohm it is I will get a new one and drop it back in!) But I didn't connect any wires when I took it out... Is that a problem? I was having trouble with it before, but perhaps less? I wish I could remember. I'm also reading a lot about checking Vacuum lines... How do I do this? And my last question, If I were to end up having to buy a timing gun, I have gathered that I would check the timing by setting a dial and looking at the grooves I've seen on the flywheel... If I were to find out that the timing were off, what would I do to change it? I've heard from separate mechanics here and there that the van does/doesn't have a timing chain, what's the scoop? Aieee, 3 years I've had this van and I'm lost aGAIN! I thought I'd be home free after the head gaskets! "What's the matter dear?" It's the Vanagain.... (Now I know the true depth of Ken's wisdom!) Thanks all, Sincerely, Eric Nettles www.Irakusa.com Landscape and Naturalist Photography Mount Rainier Nat'l Park Great Smoky Mountains Nat'l Park and other national wilderness areas As Always, Under Construction -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Joe Romas Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:25 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Engine reving? There is a "idle stabilizer" located on the left side to the front of the engine compartment. It's the second "box" from the front that has 2 round plugs. When they go bad that is what they do I'm told. If yours is a 1.9 or air cooled they are fifty dollars, 2.1 they are more. However the good news is you just put the two round plugs together and problem solved! You idle may be slightly uneven. If it does not cure the problem, look for air leaks. Find somebody that knows a little more then you and maybe the two of you can do what I've just described. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonia Johnson" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Engine reving? > Hello vana-experts, > > This is probably a simple repair--but oil changes and routine maintenance > are about the extent of my auto knowledge. Problem is when I start the > engine, it revs up to about 3500 to 4000 and wants to stay there. I'm > driving with my foot on the brake, and turning off when I hit a stop > light. This happened suddenly- it was fine yesterday, this morning it > started. Do I just need to adjust the idle, or is there more to this? > > Help! Sonia J > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:17:14 -0400 Reply-To: John Flaherty Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Flaherty Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 6'10", 350 lbs, I am the biggest thing I've carried in my vanagon. :) John Flaherty '84 GL "Insufficient Funds" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:41:48 -0500 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: [Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carriedINSIDE yourvan?] Comments: To: Joe Fortino MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've hauled 15 one hundred pound bags of plaster on the floor in my 85 GL with the 1.9 L engine from Anchorage, Alaska through the Chugach Mountains down to Kenai, AK. A good solid 150 miles or so. Never had such an occasion with my 88 GL. But the 85GL did well, and did it more than once. John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Joe Fortino wrote: > > I find out what my van will hold this month when I use it > to move, but i need to be able to see out the windows,, haha > > wait.. I've had 6 cyclists 6 bikes in the van, and my wife > fully loaded tring to make it up route 160 in las vegas.. 40mph limpin > > Joe > > phil stanhope wrote: > Right before moving from California back to Florida, I > emtied out a 5'X10' storage room (everthing i owned) > and managed to fit ALL of it in my Westy and I still > could crawl back to the rear bed to rest at rest > stops. > The rear suspension was all the way bottomed out and > I even fit 5 short surfboards+2 long surfboards on the > roof! > > It handled like a Peterbuilt all the way to Florida! > > Phil 84' > white Westfalia > "Millenium Falcon" (For sale) > 84' all brown Rustfalia/Wolfy GL > "Sh*thawk" (Tiico on order) > B+W G3 450 MHz 256mg ram > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:22:44 EDT Reply-To: Sersote@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Paul M. Hillbish" Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE your van? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/01 6:04:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pokey@vanagon.org writes: << Do I have a record? I doubt it... what is the biggest, heaviest, or most bulky item you've carried inside your van? >> When I first got my van (Clarence) it was for the purpose of moving. We fit everything in there that we owned. I think my record, was with the couch, the dresser, and about 6 or 7 boxes full of other items at the same time. Granted, we were only driving a whole block away, but I think that is it for my van. Although, at work, I know of an instance where about 6 or 7 hundred pounds of steel was put in the belly of a Vanagon camper. It took the load well, but it dropped the height considerably. Maybe left about 1-2 inches clearance underneath. Thankfully, that time we only had to drive it 50', otherwise, it would not have happened in one trip. --Paul-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:29:08 -0700 Reply-To: radish150 Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: radish150 Subject: biggest thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I thought I had outdone myself when once I took my pet mule to the vet in the vanagon! Had to keep the top up, it slowed me down but he enjoyed looking out the front mesh window while driving. But.... my vanagon is SOOOO big, that once I put ANOTHER vanagon inside it. They said it couldn't be done! mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:25:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Horace K. Sawyer" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Horace K. Sawyer" Subject: Re: Chris Turner is a good vendor -- 13 months. Comments: To: SyncrogalVW@cs.com In-Reply-To: <4c.14d55f47.28289e5d@cs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_156519926==_.ALT" --=====================_156519926==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > I have >learned to take everything a little slower now anyway since owning a Vanagon! >-Loretta >87 Syncro >90 GL SLOW being the operative word, baby! That's why I bought a retro ex-East German diesel/kero turbine cowl housing from Chris and a GE-J492 straight JATO kit from Ken Wilfy. Chris just happened to have it lying around in his basement, and Ken always has a good supply of 1950's era turbojet motors. Even full airplanes in his backyard. But my beef with the whole deal was this superduper jet assisted thingamyjig was really and truly not as simple as they claimed: in fact, it was a bit of a pain in my bass to install. And what about 24 hour customer support? Where was it when I was trying to shoehorn a dadgum jet pod into the back of a frickin GL? I'll tell you: seriously lacking. I know I made those 3 a.m. calls to Pennsylvania, and Chris was fairly cordial, even though in a dead stupor. But *when* the heck do you people expect us weirdo's to do these kinds of projects? In the DAY time??? We have to make a living for crying out loud. And Chris just wasn't much help over the next 13 months while the install was ongoing. He claimed he didn't know much about fitting jet pods into GL's. Sounds fishy to me. And Wilfy didn't appreciate me pushing the "Ask Ken" button on his website about 600 times one Saturday. But he got over it. Heck, that's part of customer service. So I agree with you, but these vendors better get with the program is all I got to say. Horace --=====================_156519926==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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learned to take everything a little slower now anyway since owning a Vanagon!
-Loretta
87 Syncro
90 GL

SLOW being the operative word, baby! 
That's why I bought a retro ex-East German diesel/kero turbine cowl housing from Chris and a GE-J492 straight JATO kit from Ken Wilfy.   Chris just happened to have it lying around in his basement, and Ken always has a good supply of 1950's era turbojet motors.  Even full airplanes in his backyard.
But my beef with the whole deal was this superduper jet assisted thingamyjig was really and truly not as simple as they claimed:  in fact, it was a bit of  a pain in my bass to install.  And what about 24 hour customer support?  Where was it when I was trying to shoehorn a dadgum jet pod into the back of a frickin GL?   I'll tell you:  seriously lacking.  I know I made those 3 a.m. calls to Pennsylvania, and Chris was fairly cordial, even though in a dead stupor.  But  *when* the heck do you people expect us weirdo's to do these kinds of projects?   In the DAY time???  We have to make a living for crying out loud.  And Chris just wasn't much help over the next 13 months while the install was ongoing.  He claimed he didn't know much about fitting jet pods into GL's.  Sounds fishy to me.  And Wilfy didn't appreciate me pushing the "Ask Ken" button on his website about 600 times one Saturday.  But he got over it.  Heck, that's part of customer service.
So I agree with you, but these vendors better get with the program is all I got to say.

Horace

--=====================_156519926==_.ALT-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:42:47 EDT Reply-To: Oxroad@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Jeffrey R Subject: Re: Do you store your Vanagon over the Winter? Need help answering a question. Comments: To: Wolfvan88@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/6/2001 6:48:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Wolfvan88@aol.com writes: > An insurance company is telling me that my fuel tank suddenly rusted out and > caused the engine problems, because it was not run for about a month while > parked. I stored my Vanagon every winter so far for about 4 years. the tank is in good shape--and to the best of my knowledge is the original tank. In fact I believe the previous owners stored the bus for winters as well. While storing a vehicle can bring on some problems that come with lack of use--one month of storage is not going to ruin your gas tank. Having said that I belive the gasoling can turn kind of varnishy and that could lead to clogging problems of the fule filter ot fule lines and possibly the fule injectors. But my best guess is that one month will not lead to this situation. My question would be why is your insurance company involved at all? And is the tank rusted so it's leaking or you've got a clogged fuel filter as a result of crud in the tank? The latter, the clogging fuel filter, it seems could be caused by condensation and particals loosening in the tank. And then the gas could turn bad, as I believe it draws moisture from the air and that effects its volitility. But even if the gas went bad, to the best of my knowledge draing the tank should sovlve the problem hoefully. In the old days the carberators float bowl used to get gummed up by the gas that was in them when the vehicle was stored which would turn thci and gummy. But again that's not ususally the case after one month of storage. And there is a product called "Stabil" which is added to gasloline that is going to be stored for a while and supposedly keeps the gas from turning to varnish. Don;t know if there are unwanted side effects. That's my 2 cents jeff 83.5 Westy LA,CA ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:52:14 -0700 Reply-To: jelly donut Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: jelly donut Subject: 1985 GL 4 $ale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html http://www.geocities.com/josh_monson/VanagonWriteUp.html

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========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:55:54 -0400 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: 87 Wolfy Running Rich, -Idle Stab Removed, AFM checked, O2 New, Temp2 New, and on and on... Comments: To: Eric Nettles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:11 AM 5/8/2001, Eric Nettles wrote: >Howdy Volks, > > >temp 2 is new (But the other one, with 2 spade connectors, is old and >definitely bad, what is it anyway? Could it be the culprit?) erm...that would be Temp II. The one with the single terminal drives the temp gauge, no effect on operation. If TII is open you will be running very very rich... >And my last question, If I were to end up having to buy a timing gun, I have >gathered that I would check the timing by setting a dial and looking at the >grooves I've seen on the flywheel... If I were to find out that the timing >were off, what would I do to change it? Loosen and rotate the distributor -- clockwise retards, anticlockwise advances. >I've heard from separate mechanics here and there that the van does/doesn't >have a timing chain, what's the scoop? No chain. No belt. Camshaft is geardriven from crankshaft, operates valves through hydraulic lifters, pushrods, rocker arms. d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:52:21 -0700 Reply-To: lamusicamellama@juno.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Leslie Shiaman Subject: 1984 Westy For Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well Listees, I've decided to part with my van. I just had a new clutch put in today. New heavy-duty tires, recent coolant flush, repaired cross-over tube on gas tank. I've noticed a small coolant leak under one of the heads, so it may need new gaskets or heads. Unfortunately as much as I love having this van, it is not practical for me given my meager budget and the expenses involved with a 17 year-old vanagon. I am asking $5,500 and willing to negotiate a price given that it needs some additional work. There are 78,000 miles on original engine. All records have been kept. Beige exterior without rust, brown interior in good condition. Located in Humboldt County, California. Les 707-822-8007, evenings 707-668-2000, days lamusicamellama@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:06:39 -0700 Reply-To: Zoltan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Zoltan Subject: Re: biggest thing Comments: To: radish150 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's not Friday yet!... ----- Original Message ----- From: "radish150" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 6:29 PM Subject: biggest thing > Well, I thought I had outdone myself when once I took my pet mule to the vet in the vanagon! Had to keep the top up, it slowed me down but he enjoyed looking out the front mesh window while driving. But.... my vanagon is SOOOO big, that once I put ANOTHER vanagon inside it. They said it couldn't be done! > > mark... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:53:19 EDT Reply-To: BenTbtstr8@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Benjamin Tan Subject: Re: biggest thing Comments: To: radish150@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/7/01 6:44:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, radish150@earthlink.net writes: << Well, I thought I had outdone myself when once I took my pet mule to the vet in the vanagon! >> Reminds of of when my ex-inlaws brought their cow to market in a splittie. Circa 1969. BenT ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:58:36 -0400 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Engine reving? Comments: To: Joe Romas In-Reply-To: <022c01c0d74c$f57b9fe0$035a5a5a@joe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:25 PM 5/7/2001, Joe Romas wrote: >There is a "idle stabilizer" located on the left side to the front of the >engine compartment. It's the second "box" from the front that has 2 round >plugs. When they go bad that is what they do I'm told. If yours is a 1.9 or >air cooled they are fifty dollars, ...and the box is as you described > 2.1 they are more. and a completely different setup with a solenoid valve on top of the engine, and a controller box forward of the right-hand taillight. d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:03:07 -0700 Reply-To: George Wietor Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: George Wietor Subject: Re: Heater/coolant hoses Comments: To: dmc@cyburban.com In-Reply-To: <200105071633.f47GXWo07159@mail.lanline.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hint: the copper will probably outlast the aluminum in your engine. Pool installers sometimes need to bend that nifty white PVC: they just place one end up to the exhaust on their idling pickup truck-gets real flexible real fast. YMMV. George--- Dave M wrote: > I recently fixed a perfortated coolant hose. > Therwise good condition. I cut out the bad 4 inch > porti This was 1in inside > diameter white plastic concertina type hose I found > at ACE hardware. > This stuff would work great for protecting rubber > hose rt to the front > heater core. Do I really have to remove the steering > columnold water pipe max > 70 degrees F', am I right in assuming this is > inadequate? > > - David '87 Wolfsburg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:05:28 -0500 Reply-To: Dave Baker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dave Baker Subject: Re: Diesel Performance and Salem Witch Trials Comments: To: FrankGRUN@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good posts, Frank. Dave in KC 85 Westy http://members.fortunecity.com/davebaker1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Grunthaner To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:04 PM Subject: Diesel Performance and Salem Witch Trials > I find myself saddened by the vituperous denigradation of the performance of > the Vanagon Westfalia Diesel that has recently graced the pages of this list. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:18:56 -0700 Reply-To: Zoltan Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Zoltan Subject: '86 Running very rich still MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03C5_01C0D72A.8FE7B820" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03C5_01C0D72A.8FE7B820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zoltan=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: '86 Running very rich ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Zoltan=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:04 AM Subject: '86 Running very rich Hi guys, This car runs but it uses quite a bit more gas than it should. What are the sensors that need to be changed to make sure that all = possible trouble makers are eliminated. =20 Zoltan ------=_NextPart_000_03C5_01C0D72A.8FE7B820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Zoltan
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: '86 Running very rich

 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Zoltan
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 7:04 AM
Subject: '86 Running very rich

Hi guys,
This car runs but it uses quite a bit = more gas than=20 it should.
What are the sensors that need to = be changed=20 to make sure that all possible trouble makers are eliminated. =20
Zoltan
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Fortunately only had to go about five miles. Mick Kalber 89 Syncro Westy "Daddeo" Tropical Visions Video, Inc. 62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720 808-935-5557 808-935-0066 (fax) hotlava@interpac.net www.volcanoscapes.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:23:53 -0700 Reply-To: steve@syncro.org Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Schwenk Subject: Re: Chris Turner Comments: To: SyncrogalVW@cs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. I once bought a vanagon seat from Chris, and when it came it was used! In fact, every vanagon part i ever bought from the guy was used. Stay away from him! Don't let the low prices fool you! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:34:53 -0700 Reply-To: Tony Gould Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Tony Gould Subject: Re: 89 vanagon w/wheelchair lift (was '90) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey all, Went and purchased the '89 vanagon with wheelchair lift today...rides nice/engine seems healthy - had it checked over by a mechanic...now to connect with the right name for our new family member.... :>) Keep y'all posted as life progresses....we're going to a bluegrass music festival in our new van this weekend.... Thanks for all the help, Tony __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:37:23 EDT Reply-To: Jkpvw@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: - Jeff & Kim Prudhoe Subject: Re: Diesel Performance and Salem Witch Trials MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank: I applaud your fierce defense of the venerable 1.6 liter against all those would be Rev. Samuel Parris' out there. After one year with our low mileage '82 Diesel Westy we have grown to love the 28-30 mpg, the reliability, simplicity and the uncanny ability to always be fashionably late. Jeff 82 Diesel Westy (43,000 miles) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:48:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Anthony L. Mourkas" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Anthony L. Mourkas" Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Firewood - lots and lots of firewood, as much firewood as you can fit in a 81 Westy Basic. Over the bed, on the seats, on the floor, in the luggage rack, firewood. Sank the rear wheels into the ground almost up to the axles and I about ruined the clutch getting it out of the woodlot and onto a real road - but hey - the wood was free! At least we were warm that Winter...... Yesterday I used my Quantum Syncro Wagon to move wood, took a few more trips than the van, but the 4wd sure was nice. Best wishes, Tony Anthony L. Mourkas Hampden, Maine, USA 1984 Vanagon Westfalia "Gertrude" 1986.5 Quantum Syncro Wagon "Wolfgang" 1991 Jetta Eco Diesel "Liesel" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:42:58 -0400 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: '86 Running very rich still Comments: To: Zoltan In-Reply-To: <03c801c0d765$3cab4560$42d33ad8@zol> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:18 PM 5/7/2001, Zoltan wrote: >This car runs but it uses quite a bit more gas than it should. >What are the sensors that need to be changed to make sure that all >possible trouble makers are eliminated. Oxygen and Temp II are prolly the most likely. Timing, AFM, Temp I, fuel pressure regulator, exhaust leak, injectors leak?, ECU grounds, ECU...if you try to shotgun it you're going to spend a lot of money. d David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:03:48 -0400 Reply-To: Ron Semko Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Ron Semko Subject: Re: Chris Turner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

Steve wrote:

>
>I agree. I once bought a vanagon seat from Chris, and
>when it came it was used! In fact, every vanagon part
>i ever bought from the guy was used. Stay away from
>him! Don't let the low prices fool you!
 
Well Chris, were I you, I would rest my case on the above from Steve.
 
For the rest of us:
 
Chris has been on the list since before me (over five years for me). He's been supplying parts ever since I can remember. I have bought "used" parts from Chris, and have been satisfied with the parts and with Chris.
 
Is he "perfect"? Probably not, but then again most of us aren't, are we? Would I buy something from Chris tomarrow? Yes. Will most of the list? From the responses I've read I would assume yes. Is Chris intitled to a profit, even on the shipping? Yes. Does Chris gouge the list? I think the majority would answere, no".
 
We're a community, more than anything else on this list. The Vanagon just happens to be the tie that binds. You obviously don't want to buy any more parts from Chris, ok don't, but understand when the rest do.
 
Ron
Orlando, Florida (the mouse trap for people)


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========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 22:34:07 -0500 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE yourvan? Comments: To: John Flaherty MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NINE 100+ lb women, hell bent on a shopping spree and visit to the Cabbage Patch Doll hospital. :( ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:37:07 EDT Reply-To: Sersote@aol.com Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Paul M. Hillbish" Subject: Re: What is the biggest & heaviest thing you've carried INSIDE your van? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Otmar should chime in on this one. He'd hold the record I'm sure. No contest. --Paul-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:38:04 -0400 Reply-To: Pat Dooley Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Pat Dooley Subject: Re: Free 85 Body Comments: To: Ron Semko In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0D74E.C2EE6C40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0D74E.C2EE6C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron, save that van for me. I'll drive up from Tampa and get it. I already have the door on my 85 vanagon. And the gas cap and trailer hitch. -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Ron Semko Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:17 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Free 85 Body Well, it's clean out the garage time of year. So, If anyone wants a 1985 Non-Westy Vanagon body, with motor (no trans), just say so, and come and get it (Orlando, Florida). The body is in excellent shape. No rust, no dings, and a decent interior. It is missing only the drivers door. It was a Mark III conversion with auto tranny (again tranny is missing). This is the way I got it. I was going to make a trailer out of it, thought it would be cool to have a Vanagon pulling a Vanagon trailer, and still do, but thjis one is in too good of condition to cut up. Ron Semko Orlando, Florida ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0D74E.C2EE6C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ron,=20 save that van for me.  I'll drive up from Tampa and get it.  I = already=20 have the door on my 85 vanagon.  And the gas cap and trailer=20 hitch.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing = List=20 [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Ron=20 Semko
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 12:17 PM
To:=20 vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Free 85 = Body

Well, it's clean out the garage time of year.
 
So, If anyone wants a 1985 Non-Westy Vanagon body, with = motor (no=20 trans), just say so, and come and get it (Orlando, Florida).
 
The body is in excellent shape. No rust, no dings, and a decent = interior.=20 It is missing only the drivers door. It was a Mark III conversion with = auto=20 tranny (again tranny is missing). This is the way I got it.
 
I was going to make a trailer out of it, thought it would be cool = to have=20 a Vanagon pulling a Vanagon trailer, and still do, but thjis = one is in too good of condition to cut up.
 
Ron Semko
Orlando, Florida


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