You're right. But as I've heard it = defined, socialism is when the government runs everything, but individuals can = own property. Whereas true communist countries people can't own any = property. So these "free" health care systems are truly socialist ideas. But, correct = me if I am wrong, isn't one of the key principles here in America capitalism? Didn't communism start out as socialism? Have you heard = what people in these countries with "free" health care pay for food, gas and = shelter? Give me good old capitalism any day.
Peace out,
Peder
'84 Westy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Leon Korkin
To: pederparizek
Sent: Thursday, September 13, = 2001 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: America

Peder,
I have a feeling you are confused about = communism. So-called free health care you are talking about is wide-spread in = Europe. Does it make those countries communist? Of course not.
It's = socialism. There is also low-cost housing, free food for needy etc. But we have = it here too.
Welfare system. To help out those who are unfortunate. There = simply aren't enough jobs to employ everibody.
Communism was never about = "free" anything, just more even and fair distribution of common wealth and = sharing the cost. Capitalism is based on "free market" and greed. However, = some companys now days become so huge and powerful it's no longer free = market but monopolies and we all end up paying hi price for fuel and other stuff. =
There are few(very few) people on the list who feel we should just = give away our spare parts.
Let them give away their parts.
Leon =
 
 

pederparizek wrote:

These people are not bums, they = are communists. These are the same people that want the government to = give us free health care (communism). What's next free housing, free cars, = free food. Everyone needs to realize that just because it is free to you, = means that someone else is paying for it.Here in America we pay for what we = want.Peace out,Peder'84 Westy

If I may add to = what you wrote, selling on the list is allowed on the list. =
So anyone who complains = about it is on weak footing.

I sell things = occasionally it's a service to the Vanagon community. No one =
except communists or bums = expect it for free. even when I have been broke, I
chose to go without rather = than beg.
So, we bring back the meaning of the term bum-a person who is not willing = to
work for what he wants, and thinks everyone owes him a living, or vanagon
parts for free.

But the = politically correct way of addressing them is now(homeless). My Mom =
used to warn when I was = young-"you don't want to become like the bums on skid
road, do = you"?Bums!
I have got a lot = of vanagon stuff free-does that make me a bum? Well, we used =
to have a junkyard, and = stuff was free on the hulked vanagons heading to the
crusher...

Robert = K
1982 = Westfalia

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