Oil Filter Question

       Chad, I've been using the Canadian Tire= brand Motormaster filter since I bought my '87 Westy seven years ago. = Now with 350,000 km on the original engine I don't think there's any proble= ms with the Motormaster filter !  Oil and filter changed every 3~5000 k= m.  Never have any lifter noise unless the engine has not been run for=20= a few weeks which rarely occurs as it's my daily driver.

Peace=A0

Frank Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
BusFusion a VW C= amper camping event, Almonte, ON, May 30, 31, June 1, 2, 2002
'87 Westy & Lionel Trains
Member: Vanagon List, LiMBO, IWCCC & Capital City VW Club
Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless= Steel Mufflers =A0
Frank Condelli &=20= Associates or http://frankcondelli.com

--part1_7b.1d92443b.29152976_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:07:01 EST Reply-To: RAlanen@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Frank Condelli Subject: Re: Oil Filter Question Comments: cc: groch@worldchat.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_44.15aa90c1.291529d5_boundary" --part1_44.15aa90c1.291529d5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 11/2/2001 4:27:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes: > Oil Filter Question Chad, I've been using the Canadian Tire brand Motormaster filter sinc= e=20 I bought my '87 Westy seven years ago. Now with 350,000 km on the original=20 engine I don't think there's any problems with the Motormaster filter ! Oil= =20 and filter changed every 3~5000 km. Never have any lifter noise unless the=20 engine has not been run for a few weeks which rarely occurs as it's my daily= =20 driver. Peace=A0 Frank Condelli Almonte, Ontario, Canada BusFusion a VW C= amper camping event, Almonte, ON, May 30, 31, June 1, 2, 2002 '87 Westy & Lionel Trains Member: Vanagon List, LiMBO, IWCCC & Capital City VW Club=20 Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless= Steel Mufflers =A0 Frank Condelli & Asso= ciates or http://frankcondelli.com =20 --part1_44.15aa90c1.291529d5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 11/2/2001 4:27:14 PM Eastern Standard Tim= e, LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

Oil Filter Question

       Chad, I've been using the Canadian Tire= brand Motormaster filter since I bought my '87 Westy seven years ago. = Now with 350,000 km on the original engine I don't think there's any proble= ms with the Motormaster filter !  Oil and filter changed every 3~5000 k= m.  Never have any lifter noise unless the engine has not been run for=20= a few weeks which rarely occurs as it's my daily driver.

Peace=A0

Frank Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
BusFusion a VW C= amper camping event, Almonte, ON, May 30, 31, June 1, 2, 2002
'87 Westy & Lionel Trains
Member: Vanagon List, LiMBO, IWCCC & Capital City VW Club
Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley
STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless= Steel Mufflers =A0
Frank Condelli &=20= Associates or http://frankcondelli.com

--part1_44.15aa90c1.291529d5_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 00:42:18 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Uhh. Bigger gallons for you mean more miles per gallon. We'd get fewer. > >I think? Yup. Which is partly why I can't believe a Van could get 40mpg US (?45 imperial?). Regards Andrew ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 00:42:18 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >We never got the engines and thus could never get them imported because of >smog rules. > >Aren't G50's kind of pricey? About $1200US for my LSD 1989 G50 (purchased in Germany; about $2700 if bought in USA), and these don't break or wear out... fitting it to the van body will probably cost more, apart from the KEP kit. A Toyota 3.0 TDi should have fewer smog problems than US diesels or old VW ones... aren't the 3.0 diesel Hiluxes sold there? The 3.0 Prado probably also uses this engine (1KZ-T). Regards Andrew ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 00:42:18 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: What to buy? Many "buying guide" questions Comments: To: DuryeaFineArt@aol.com In-Reply-To: <107.802eaca.2914f772@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Ooooooooooooooh, where can I see one those So. Afro grilles?????!!! >Bill Colo Springs >'87 Syncro >'87 GL Right here... or at least, the attachment... (not my van, but an image from someone in USA). VanAgain sells them, so does Bus Depot and someone else on the list (named Cohen), but these guys charge! To bring one set (2 grills, 2 lights with mounts) cost myself & another Kiwi subaruvanagon listee $205US each... including surface-rate mail and $41US each to cover the South African listee's trouble; both sets sent in one factory grill box, no breakages. Note that the lower grill in the photo is stock narrow German, with Projektzwo extensions which house lights; these are crap[pily-made and VERY expensive. The RSA lower grill is one-piece full-width, has no lights and looks much better! Of course the list will strip off the jpeg... Regards Andrew ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:01:55 EST Reply-To: Galoobs@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mike Galoob Subject: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ae.1d2e8b8b.291544c3_boundary" --part1_ae.1d2e8b8b.291544c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Schrodinger's Cat is a paradox not because he expects you to believe that a cat can be in a state of being both alive and dead (or neither) but rather that the laws of Quantum mechanics (which he devised!) seem to be unable to transcend some boundary between the microscopic and the macroscopic scale. Why doesn't the superposition state of the decaying atom carry over to the billions of wave states that combine to form the cat? One answer is a concept known as decoherance. It basically employs the notion that wave functions have a phase just as an electromagnetic wave such as light has phase. Only light waves of similar phase can display interference, evidence of a superposition state. Due to the multitude of wavestates in the cat, they statistically cannot be in phase to the extent as to be able to merge wave functions in the manner of superposition. Thus "spooky" Quantum effects observed on the atomic scale cannot carry over to the multiphase macroscopic systems of our scale. Mike Galoob 81 westy 88 Subaru GL-10 --part1_ae.1d2e8b8b.291544c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Schrodinger's Cat is a paradox not because he expects you to believe that a cat can be in a state of being both alive and dead (or neither) but rather that the laws of Quantum mechanics (which he devised!) seem to be unable to transcend some boundary between the microscopic and the macroscopic scale. Why doesn't the superposition state of the decaying atom carry over to the billions of wave states that combine to form the cat? One answer is a concept known as decoherance. It basically employs the notion that wave functions have a phase just as an electromagnetic wave such as light has phase. Only light waves of similar phase can display interference, evidence of a superposition state. Due to the multitude of wavestates in the cat, they statistically cannot be in phase to the extent as to be able to merge wave functions in the manner of superposition. Thus "spooky" Quantum effects observed on the atomic scale cannot carry over to the multiphase macroscopic systems of our scale.

Mike Galoob
81 westy
88 Subaru GL-10   --part1_ae.1d2e8b8b.291544c3_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:37:00 -0800 Reply-To: Myron Lind Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Myron Lind Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc Comments: To: Andrew Grebneff Hi Andrew. About the only diesels here in the US are the VW. In the large pickup trucks is the next series, a bit larger than I want for a vanagon. 7.0 Liter or so. How do I find a G50 in Germany? ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Grebneff To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:42 AM Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc > >We never got the engines and thus could never get them imported because of > >smog rules. > > > >Aren't G50's kind of pricey? > > About $1200US for my LSD 1989 G50 (purchased in Germany; about $2700 > if bought in USA), and these don't break or wear out... fitting it to > the van body will probably cost more, apart from the KEP kit. > > A Toyota 3.0 TDi should have fewer smog problems than US diesels or > old VW ones... aren't the 3.0 diesel Hiluxes sold there? The 3.0 > Prado probably also uses this engine (1KZ-T). > > Regards > Andrew > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:47:13 -0700 Reply-To: Gnarlodious Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Gnarlodious Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: Galoobs@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit What a relief to know I will never be simultaneously dead and alive! Rachel http://www.gnarlodious.com Entity Mike Galoob spoke thus: Schrodinger's Cat is a paradox not because he expects you to believe that a cat can be in a state of being both alive and dead (or neither) but rather that the laws of Quantum mechanics (which he devised!) seem to be unable to transcend some boundary between the microscopic and the macroscopic scale. Why doesn't the superposition state of the decaying atom carry over to the billions of wave states that combine to form the cat? One answer is a concept known as decoherance. It basically employs the notion that wave functions have a phase just as an electromagnetic wave such as light has phase. Only light waves of similar phase can display interference, evidence of a superposition state. Due to the multitude of wavestates in the cat, they statistically cannot be in phase to the extent as to be able to merge wave functions in the manner of superposition. Thus "spooky" Quantum effects observed on the atomic scale cannot carry over to the multiphase macroscopic systems of our scale. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:08:48 -0500 Reply-To: Joe Romas Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Romas Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: Joe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, From one Joe to another, you don't need a expensive scanner. Mine is a UMAX Astra 1220U. It's as you probably guessed, 1200 DPI and USB interface flatbed scanner. If your PC is fairly new with a reliable USB interface that's all you need. I once had a HP SCSI scanner and SCSI introduced a whole new can of worms for me. My scanner does a great job of color photos and the like. I also use the "copy machine" feature to fax documents, but it's one page at a time. But with better software you could scan and save each page then fax the entire lot. That being said, look at the software that comes with the scanner. Also if any of your documents are 8.5X14 or legal size, make sure you get one that will do that. Also don't forget the long distance phone charges if it's not a 800 number. And last but not least, DON'T get a parallel interface model, it's made for printers!!! ( I know some will disagree on this point) Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:19 AM Subject: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 > Yes, this is WAY "OT" but this is something of an emergency so please allow > this intrusion. > Because they lost most of it I find myself needing to fax almost my entire > medical record to the Veteran's Administration. I got several estimates from > "Kinko's" and other such places, the lowest of which was about $80. If I > went the Kinko's route I would be out $80 but if I kicked in a few extra > bucks and got a cheap flatbed scanner I could do my own faxing plus I would > be covered in the all-too-likely event they lose it again (I already have > the fax modem and other stuff). > I did not think there would be all that much to buying a flatbed scanner > but a trip to Best Buy, CompUSA and a few other stores showed me different. > I need some objective advice. Several tries on the search engine yielded > nothing but ads who's only advice was "buy me now!". It occurred to me that > most of the folks on the Vanagon list were fairly level headed and > practical. I also remembered several occasions where a number of list > members talked about digitizing one thing or another for posting or > emailing. This, plus the fact that it is Friday convinced me that this > fishing expeditiion might be worth a shot. I figure the worst that could > happen is someonw would have a good time chewing me out for no Vanagon > content. So..... > > Can someone here recommend a good Flatbed Scanner for about $100? Any > warnings of models to keep away from? Any help appreciated. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:21:54 EST Reply-To: Vanagony@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Paul Kirsch Subject: Blowing Voltage Regulator For Guages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend's 83 water cooled Vanagon has trouble with the dash guage voltage regulator. Intermittantly when starting, the regulator blows and guages are thus dead. Grounds have been checked and cleaned. An additional ground has been installed from the starter to the body. He is considering putting a ground wire from the starter to the battery. Any ideas? Paul Kirsch ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:43:41 -0600 Reply-To: John Rodgers Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: John Rodgers Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: Joe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe wrote: > Can someone here recommend a good Flatbed Scanner for about $100? Any > > warnings of models to keep away from? Any help appreciated. Joe, I ran into the Same problem with Kinko's. I need a bunch of pictures scanned. They wanted like $110 for the job. I went next door to CompUSA and found a parallel interface UMAX Astra scanner for $79. You can probably bet a USB interface unit for the same money nowadays. It's sitting on my desk now and works great. It is plain and simple. No whistles and bells. No scan button on the front. Everything is software actuated. But it gets the job done. If I want it to, it scans with a resolution far greater than any that I will ever use unless I want to have an image published. Most color scans that I work with are done at 300 dpi and that is plenty. For black and white scanned records 150 dpi is plenty. Anything you want to publish on the Net works best at 72 to 96 pixels because of the speed of loading. Any greater resolution, while nice, takes forever to load. But for faxing purposes, if you scan at 150 dpi the records should be fine. Good luck. John Rodgers 88 Gl Driver ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:16:20 -0600 Reply-To: Terry Kay Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Terry Kay Subject: Re: Holotron Fire Extinguishers Considered Comments: To: PSavage In-Reply-To: PSavage 's message of Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:44:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Phaedra, Better read the label real good---this stuff is toxic !! The Fe 241 is as good as Halon, but very toxic The FM 200 isn't as toxic, but less effective as Halon. What is as good a s Halon, is the anqueous foam extinguisher. This is what most of the race car round de round guys are using. And none of of this Halon replacement stuff is cheap. Love and kisses, Smokey the Bear ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:40:43 -0600 Reply-To: Joel Walker Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joel Walker Organization: not likely Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What a relief to know I will never be simultaneously dead and alive! so, this Schrodinger ... is he the one that tied the buttered bread to the back of his cat and threw the cat off the kitchen counter?? see, that way, the cat tries to land on its feet, but the buttered bread tries to land on the buttered side, and the cat/bread just sit there spinning in mid-air ... virtual anti-gravity. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:45:53 -0500 Reply-To: Joe Romas Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Joe Romas Subject: Re: Blowing Voltage Regulator For Guages Comments: To: Vanagony@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's possible they are blowing just after starting when the altenator is charging the most and the voltage regulator is dropping the most voltage. A bad connection at or near the battery is a good place to start. Also there was a recent post about loosing altenator grounds at the mount. I would check the whole battery/charging/starting system for resistance. There are a lot of areas for bad connections in our older vans. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kirsch" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Blowing Voltage Regulator For Guages > A friend's 83 water cooled Vanagon has trouble with the dash guage voltage > regulator. Intermittantly when starting, the regulator blows and guages are > thus dead. Grounds have been checked and cleaned. An additional ground has > been installed from the starter to the body. He is considering putting a > ground wire from the starter to the battery. Any ideas? > > > Paul Kirsch > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:02:55 -0700 Reply-To: Karl Wolz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Karl Wolz Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: John Rodgers John, Scanning for internet publication above 72 dpi is actually not any nicer than scanning AT 72dpi, since that's about the maximum resolution of the computer screen. Anything finer doesn't look any better, but as you pointed out, does take longer to load. Karl Wolz ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 > Joe wrote: > > > Can someone here recommend a good Flatbed Scanner for about $100? Any > > > > warnings of models to keep away from? Any help appreciated. > > Joe, I ran into the Same problem with Kinko's. I need a bunch of pictures scanned. They > wanted like $110 for the job. I went next door to CompUSA and found a parallel > interface UMAX Astra scanner for $79. You can probably bet a USB interface unit for the > same money nowadays. > > It's sitting on my desk now and works great. It is plain and simple. No whistles and > bells. No scan button on the front. Everything is software actuated. But it gets the > job done. If I want it to, it scans with a resolution far greater than any that I will > ever use unless I want to have an image published. Most color scans that I work with > are done at 300 dpi and that is plenty. For black and white scanned records 150 dpi is > plenty. > > Anything you want to publish on the Net works best at 72 to 96 pixels because of the > speed of loading. Any greater resolution, while nice, takes forever to load. But for > faxing purposes, if you scan at 150 dpi the records should be fine. > > Good luck. > > John Rodgers > 88 Gl Driver > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:40:34 -0500 Reply-To: LKY Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: LKY Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: Joe In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, How about going to Kinkos and making a coy of your medical record and priority mailing or FEDEX it to the VA. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf > Of Joe > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 4:19 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 > > > Yes, this is WAY "OT" but this is something of an > emergency so please allow > this intrusion. > Because they lost most of it I find myself needing to fax > almost my entire > medical record to the Veteran's Administration. I got several > estimates from > "Kinko's" and other such places, the lowest of which was about $80. If I > went the Kinko's route I would be out $80 but if I kicked in a few extra > bucks and got a cheap flatbed scanner I could do my own faxing > plus I would > be covered in the all-too-likely event they lose it again (I already have > the fax modem and other stuff). > I did not think there would be all that much to buying a > flatbed scanner > but a trip to Best Buy, CompUSA and a few other stores showed me > different. > I need some objective advice. Several tries on the search engine yielded > nothing but ads who's only advice was "buy me now!". It occurred > to me that > most of the folks on the Vanagon list were fairly level headed and > practical. I also remembered several occasions where a number of list > members talked about digitizing one thing or another for posting or > emailing. This, plus the fact that it is Friday convinced me that this > fishing expeditiion might be worth a shot. I figure the worst that could > happen is someonw would have a good time chewing me out for no Vanagon > content. So..... > > Can someone here recommend a good Flatbed Scanner for > about $100? Any > warnings of models to keep away from? Any help appreciated. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:52:48 -0700 Reply-To: Blake Thornton Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Blake Thornton Subject: AFM wierdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an 84 Westy and I took my AFM meter apart yesterday in the hopes of stopping the problem I've been having. What's been happening is that I lose all power suddenly, and almost as suddenly (sometimes) I get back the power. The van doesn't die, but it does absolutely nothing when I move the throttle. So, I took looked at all the wires (and they looked ok) and then took out the AFM and tested it per Bentley. I also have another AFM (new AFM from here on out) thats been sitting around for a couple years that I compared to my old one. In the resistance test, Bentley says to expect between 500-1000 ohms. Old AFM was at about 550 and new AFM was at about 750. In the other test, you just hook up the ohm meter and move the wiper. The numbers seemed different as well. And, it also seemed for both AFM's, the resistance was not strictly increasing or decreasing. The ohms bounced around going up sometime and going down sometimes. it was wierd. I also took the lid off the old AFM and everything looked fine inside. There was not a lot of carbon build up. I haven't taken apart an AFM before so I can't say if it was super clean, but it looked ok. I was a bit upset that I hadn't found the problem there. So, I put the new AFM in my van and left the old AFM on a shelf. When putting it in my van, I tried an experiment. I tried running the van without the AFM connected electronically. The van ran a bit rough but it responded to the throttle. I thought this was odd as I had expected the van to not run at all without being hooked up to the AFM. I suppose the ECU adjusted the fuel mix according the O2 sensor? In any case, I decided that this showed that my problem is probably not an electrical connection between AFM and ecu (because when it happens to me, I get no response from the throttle). Any comments or thoughts? thanks, blake 84 Westy SLC UT ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:01:36 -0500 Reply-To: "James S. Cohen" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "James S. Cohen" Subject: South African parts For Sale..... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1207315595==_ma============" --============_-1207315595==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi Everyone, I have a bunch of SA Vanagon parts for sale. Which I smug....er... IMPORTED from SA. Except where noted, everything is SAVW OEM and works on US Vanagons. Everything listed is in Stock, but my quantities are limited, and getting this stuff to the USA was SUCH a hassle that I'm not sure when I'm going to want to put myself through it again. However, if I get a lot of interest, I would. Prices DO NOT include shipping which would be JUST the straight UPS or USPS (your choice) charges. Leather Steering wheel..........................$295 Really cool looking padded leather. Makes you feel like you're driving a Porshce....(well, not quite I guess!). Two thick spokes angle down in an inverted "V". Comes with horn button. Needs no mods to fit. About same diameter as US power steering wheel 16.75" but is .75" smaller than US NON PS wheels. (I don't think it really would make much difference). Comes in Black only. Extreme Heavy Duty Mud Flaps (set of 4)...........$195 OEM on new SA Vanagons these are super heavy duty. Not like the flimsy "clip on" flaps VW sells here for $360+ a set. Includes mounting hardware. (drilling some screw holes is necessary). Manifold and Exhaust Pipe For Engine conversion........$395 These parts are for a Golf to Vanagon conversion. Brings the exhaust around to the back of the engine so the US Cat and muffler can be used. Makes the exhaust system part of the conversion easy. OEM VWSA. SA Quad Grille Replacement Lights...............$75 (pair $135) Replacements for broken INNER lights or for grilles that didn't come with the OEM lights. Includes mounting "bucket". These are made by Hella and are Driving beams (not Fog lights). Left or Right is available. OEM VWSA (does not include grille ;) ) Hella Relays...........................................$15 Hard to get HIGH Quality relays and brackets made by Hella for the USA. FAR better and longer lasting than the crappy, cheap Radio Shack and Wal-Mart relays! Recommended by Hella (and by me and others on the Vanagon list) to gain more light output from your auxiliary lights AND/OR your Regular headlights. The best and cheapest way to increase you headlight brightness. A MUST for high watt bulbs. Will make STOCK lights seem like they DOUBLED in brightness and whiteness. Emblems for SA Quad Grille............................$20 These are replacements for the original emblem and are NOT OEM SAVW. But are made by VW for the US. They are the same but just missing a very thin black plastic border. (OEM costs $39) Hi-Level (3rd) Brake Light.............................$75 VWSA accessory light. Fits at the top of the hatch window. Microbus Emblems.......................................$29 Chrome Plastic emblems with the word "Microbus". Similar in size and shape to the "Vanagon" emblem on the rear of the US Vanagons. OEM SA Caravelle Emblems................................................$35 Similar to above. (Caravelle is the Deluxe version of the Microbus (vanagon) over in SA) I also have some other misc. goodies (like VWSA OEM wiring harnesses for the headlights, non-Vanagon emblems, etc) and some other stuff that I'm not sure how to price nor know if there is interest. So if you're interested in exotic VW stuff contact me.(Also, if you have any special interests in items from SA) Payment can be made by money order, certified check, or PayPal. You can contact me for further info by email. It would be a good idea to CC your inquires to my other address as well: jscohen@aol.com Or by phone at 212-787-5813 Thanks for you interest! James -- James Cohen (certifiable VW addict) New York, NY 212-787-5813 Email: jscohen@sprynet.com Alt: jscohen@aol.com (checked more often) --============_-1207315595==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Everyone,

I have a bunch of SA Vanagon parts for sale. Which I smug....er... IMPORTED from SA. Except where noted, everything is SAVW OEM and works on US Vanagons.

Everything listed is in Stock, but my quantities are limited, and getting this stuff to the USA was SUCH a hassle that I'm not sure when I'm going to want to put myself through it again. However, if I get a lot of interest, I would.

Prices DO NOT include shipping which would be JUST the straight UPS or USPS (your choice) charges.

Leather Steering wheel..........................$295

Really cool looking padded leather. Makes you feel like you're driving a Porshce....(well, not quite I guess!). Two thick spokes angle down in an inverted "V".  Comes with horn button. Needs no mods to fit. About same diameter as US power steering wheel 16.75" but is .75" smaller than US NON PS wheels. (I don't think it really would make much difference). Comes in Black only.

Extreme Heavy Duty Mud Flaps (set of 4)...........$195

OEM on new SA Vanagons these are super heavy duty. Not like the flimsy "clip on" flaps VW sells here for $360+ a set. Includes mounting hardware. (drilling some screw holes is necessary).

Manifold and Exhaust Pipe For Engine conversion........$395

These parts are for a Golf to Vanagon conversion. Brings the exhaust around  to the back of the engine so the US Cat and muffler can be used. Makes the exhaust system part of the conversion easy. OEM VWSA.

SA Quad Grille Replacement Lights...............$75 (pair $135)

Replacements for broken INNER lights or for grilles that didn't come with the OEM lights. Includes mounting "bucket". These are made by Hella and are Driving beams (not Fog lights). Left or Right is available. OEM VWSA (does not include grille ;)   )

Hella Relays...........................................$15

Hard to get HIGH Quality relays and brackets made by Hella for the USA. FAR better and longer lasting than the crappy, cheap Radio Shack and Wal-Mart relays!

Recommended by Hella (and by me and others on the Vanagon list) to gain more light output from your auxiliary lights AND/OR your Regular headlights. The best and cheapest way to increase you headlight brightness. A MUST for high watt bulbs. Will make STOCK lights seem like they DOUBLED in brightness and whiteness.

Emblems for SA Quad Grille............................$20

These are replacements for the original emblem and are NOT OEM SAVW. But are made by VW for the US. They are the same but just missing a very thin black plastic border. (OEM costs $39)

Hi-Level (3rd) Brake Light.............................$75

VWSA accessory light. Fits at the top of the hatch window.

Microbus Emblems.......................................$29

Chrome Plastic emblems with the word "Microbus". Similar in size and shape to the "Vanagon" emblem on the rear of the US Vanagons. OEM SA

Caravelle Emblems................................................$35

Similar to above. (Caravelle is the Deluxe version of the Microbus (vanagon) over in SA)

I also have some other misc. goodies (like VWSA OEM wiring harnesses for the headlights, non-Vanagon emblems, etc) and some other stuff that I'm not sure how to price nor know if there is interest. So if you're interested in exotic VW stuff contact me.(Also, if you have any special interests in items from SA)

Payment can be made by money order, certified check, or PayPal.

You can contact me for further info by email. It would be a good idea to CC your inquires to my other address as well:

jscohen@aol.com

Or by phone at 212-787-5813

Thanks for you interest!

James

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James Cohen (certifiable VW addict)
New York, NY
212-787-5813
Email: jscohen@sprynet.com
Alt: jscohen@aol.com (checked more often)

--============_-1207315595==_ma============-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:14:56 EST Reply-To: ThingGuy@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Lashley Subject: Re: South African parts For Sale..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/01 11:03:03 AM, jscohen@SPRYNET.COM writes: << Caravelle Emblems................................................$35 Similar to above. (Caravelle is the Deluxe version of the Microbus (vanagon) over in SA) >> I have Vanagon Caravelle badges for $17.50 plus postage. p-mail if interested. Steve Lashley SKL Enterprises Inc. http://EuroCampers.com 636-797-9015 636-789-2127 fax ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:39:57 -0500 Reply-To: Judy Pearce Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Judy Pearce Subject: Re: South African parts For Sale..... Comments: To: ThingGuy@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: <76.1248b800.29158010@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" please explain to this novice: south african parts bay window thanks... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:55:42 EST Reply-To: FrankGRUN@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Frank Grunthaner Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc Comments: To: mdlind@rica.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/2/01 3:17:02 PM, mdlind@rica.net writes: << Frank, I enjoy but barely understand your posts. Myron, its a real problem. I often don't understand them myself! I like to lay the fine points of causation on my monodigit typing limitation. Family (particularly my 85 wpm 13 year old daughter) are talking about sending me to summer typing camp. She just gave me a PAWS Typing Tutor program for my birthday. Also closes the door to the study when I'm in here and she has friends visiting. Too embarrassing! If one was to put a TDI (150ft/lbs or so @ 1900 rpm) into the vanagon, how does one, in your opinion, go about determining proper gearing of the transmission. I am mainly interested in a nice drivable, fuel efficient, Vanagon. The regular WB motors have generally been "peppy" enough for me, I am not after particularly fast acceleration or racing from stoplight to stoplight. What do I miss in overall drivability as I consider mainly 65-70mph road speed. I seems that to match the TDI motor to the vanagon and to still go upwards of 70 mph I should consider a five speed. Why is the diesel less tolerant of high revving than the similar built gasoline engines? Or, why would I want to drive it over 3500-4000 rpm where both the torque and the hp drop rapidly? >> As far as I'm concerned this engine is the unit of choice, but has been too pricey for me to consider. Back when I did the first conversion, I was being quoted $6,000 for the complete motor/computer package. I went out and put some money in Platinum shares - then the cold fusion bubble burst and I went back to sorting out the most cost effective gas engine. I would also agree that the TDi should not be squandered on the 5.86 ring and pinion of the regular N/A 1.6 diesel. Ideal case for a European or SA 5 speed. If I were to do it, I'd probably go for a Porsche 915 trans and have top gear setup for 70 mph at 3000 rpm. Of course, if you are in about $3,000 for the TDi you will probably match that amount for the trans, rebuild of trans and adapter hardware. But in fact there is so much torque available with the TDi, the regular 4 speed transmissions will do just fine. The problem is the strength of the Vanagon transmission. As I have often said, the weak link in this vehicle is just forward of the flywheel! Now the Vanagon 4-spd transmissions have the same 1st through 3rd gearsets (defining 1.26 to be equal to 1.23 for this exercise). Variation is then in the top gear ratio and the ring and pinion. The aftermarket gear sets are stronger than the factory stuff, and the R&P can be beefed in a rebuild (4 spiders vs. 2). I would get a 4.57 or 4.83 trans, depending of what year you are starting with, add a set of 215/75x15 tires (with appropriate rims) and choose a 0.85 or 0.77 gear set for top. To minimize expense, take the stock 0.85. This will give you around 3500 rpm at 70 mph., and a useful mountain gear in 3rd. But the question remains, can the mainshaft and the 3/4 hub hold up to this. Sullivan either knows or will know at least an anecdotal answer (single data point). As to why the torque curves go to hell after 4000 on most automotive diesels, I have always assumed that it was a fuel delivery problem. As the injector transfer pressure go up, and injectors go electrical, and injection is directly into the chamber, the torque curves keep going upward to higher values. In addition, the exhaust circuits in most turbo diesels and flow characteristics of the turbos are designed foe 1200 to 4400 rpm operation. Variable vane technology would enhance this range. So its just money! Frank Grunthaner ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:54:47 -0500 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: Joe , John Rodgers In-Reply-To: <3BE4029D.47C258C3@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:43 AM 11/3/2001, John Rodgers wrote: >interface UMAX Astra scanner for $79. You can probably bet a USB interface >unit for the >same money nowadays. USB ports are so much easier to deal with than parallel ports (for scanners) that I expect parallel-port units to go off the market before long. SCSI is still best for high-speed work but cheap scanners don't scan all that fast. I would anticipate some possible problem with simultaneously accessing a USB Zip drive and a USB scanner because they each use a big chunk of the available bandwidth, but using them separately should be no problem. Rules of thumb for scanner specs -- look at the optical resolution only, the "interpolated resolution" numbers are worthless. One of the things that money buys is scanning speed. If you're scanning lots of unbound documents, consider a sheet-fed scanner that sucks the page through a slot -- they're much more convenient than loading a flatbed scanner with page after page. Unfortunately there probably aren't any under $100 -- Visioneer makes one that lists at $200. Or try for a flatbed with a document feeder. > But for >faxing purposes, if you scan at 150 dpi the records should be fine. Standard faxes have a resolution of 203x98 for normal mode, 203x196 for fine mode. I'd recommend scanning at 200 dpi for this purpose. There is some good info at http://www.scantips.com/basics05.html which I heartily recommend. That's the page on scanning for fax; the home page is http://www.scantips.com/ -- good discussion of many aspects of scanning. david David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:14:43 -0500 Reply-To: Timothy Hannink Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Timothy Hannink Subject: Trip to Atlanta Report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Overall it was a very uneventful drive to/from Atlanta. Thanks to all for the kind offers of support. It was 935 miles roundtrip, averaging 70 mph, 20 mpg, using 1/4 quart of oil. Gas prices -lowest - paid $.95 at a Super Kmart in Valdosta, GA, Highest - paid $1.09 at a Mobil in Winter Park 2 vehicle problems, both caused by owner :<) OXS light came on - forgot to reset it when I changed the O2 sensor last year Forgot gas cap in Forsyth, GA on Wednesday evening. It was still on top of the pump when I stopped there on Friday afternoon. Sightings - No Busses or Vanagons, one Eurovan Camper, two Rialtas Hope to see all of you at Florida Bug Jam on the 11th. www.floridabugjam.com Tim Hannink Goldibox - 1987 Westfalia Camper, Wolfsburg Edition Winter Park, Florida http://home.earthlink.net/~tjhannink/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:17:48 -0500 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Blowing Voltage Regulator For Guages Comments: To: Vanagony@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: <8d.ed11b3d.29155782@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Paul, there's a tech bulletin somewhere that says when replacing the regulator on early Vgons to put a diode in series with one of the legs. Maybe you'll find it before I do... david At 09:21 AM 11/3/2001, Paul Kirsch wrote: >A friend's 83 water cooled Vanagon has trouble with the dash guage voltage >regulator. Intermittantly when starting, the regulator blows and guages are >thus dead. Grounds have been checked and cleaned. An additional ground has >been installed from the starter to the body. He is considering putting a >ground wire from the starter to the battery. Any ideas? > > >Paul Kirsch David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:27:17 -0800 Reply-To: pensioner Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: pensioner Subject: Re: Scanner MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Scanner? Cat Scanner? Buttered Cat Scanner? Did Schroedinger wave at Vanagons? Seriously Joe, hoof it on down to the local copy spot. Make the copies on paper. Mail em off to VA. Cheap. I'll sell you a scanjet 3P B/W scanner for 5$ you pay shipping. Works fine. pensioner ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:13:50 -0800 Reply-To: mike miller Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: mike miller Subject: Re: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 Comments: To: Joe In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Got a u max Astra 2100U for $30 or so at Fry's [west coast retailer]. I work hell out of it. About 5 gigs worth of photos so far and it's done well by me. Mike > From: Joe > Reply-To: Joe > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 04:19:12 -0500 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Good Flatbed Scanner for about $100 > > Yes, this is WAY "OT" but this is something of an emergency so please allow > this intrusion. > Because they lost most of it I find myself needing to fax almost my entire > medical record to the Veteran's Administration. I got several estimates from > "Kinko's" and other such places, the lowest of which was about $80. If I > went the Kinko's route I would be out $80 but if I kicked in a few extra > bucks and got a cheap flatbed scanner I could do my own faxing plus I would > be covered in the all-too-likely event they lose it again (I already have > the fax modem and other stuff). > I did not think there would be all that much to buying a flatbed scanner > but a trip to Best Buy, CompUSA and a few other stores showed me different. > I need some objective advice. Several tries on the search engine yielded > nothing but ads who's only advice was "buy me now!". It occurred to me that > most of the folks on the Vanagon list were fairly level headed and > practical. I also remembered several occasions where a number of list > members talked about digitizing one thing or another for posting or > emailing. This, plus the fact that it is Friday convinced me that this > fishing expeditiion might be worth a shot. I figure the worst that could > happen is someonw would have a good time chewing me out for no Vanagon > content. So..... > > Can someone here recommend a good Flatbed Scanner for about $100? Any > warnings of models to keep away from? Any help appreciated. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:18:02 -0800 Reply-To: mike miller Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: mike miller Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: Galoobs@aol.com In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3087631082_3482257_MIME_Part" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3087631082_3482257_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level. If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. Be afraid, be very afraid. Mike From: Mike Galoob Reply-To: Galoobs@AOL.COM Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:01:55 EST To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Schrodinger's Cat is a paradox not because he expects you to believe that a cat can be in a state of being both alive and dead (or neither) but rather that the laws of Quantum mechanics (which he devised!) seem to be unable to transcend some boundary between the microscopic and the macroscopic scale. Why doesn't the superposition state of the decaying atom carry over to the billions of wave states that combine to form the cat? One answer is a concept known as decoherance. It basically employs the notion that wave functions have a phase just as an electromagnetic wave such as light has phase. Only light waves of similar phase can display interference, evidence of a superposition state. Due to the multitude of wavestates in the cat, they statistically cannot be in phase to the extent as to be able to merge wave functions in the manner of superposition. Thus "spooky" Quantum effects observed on the atomic scale cannot carry over to the multiphase macroscopic systems of our scale. Mike Galoob 81 westy 88 Subaru GL-10 --MS_Mac_OE_3087631082_3482257_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level.

If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Mike

From: Mike Galoob <Galoobs@AOL.COM>
Reply-To: Galoobs@AOL.COM
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:01:55 EST
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited

Schrodinger's Cat is a paradox not because he ex= pects you to believe that a cat can be in a state of being both alive and de= ad (or neither) but rather that the laws of Quantum mechanics (which he devi= sed!) seem to be unable to transcend some boundary between the microscopic a= nd the macroscopic scale. Why doesn't the superposition state of the decayin= g atom carry over to the billions of wave states that combine to form the ca= t? One answer is a concept known as decoherance. It basically employs the no= tion that wave functions have a phase just as an electromagnetic wave such a= s light has phase. Only light waves of similar phase can display interferenc= e, evidence of a superposition state. Due to the multitude of wavestates in = the cat, they statistically cannot be in phase to the extent as to be able t= o merge wave functions in the manner of superposition. Thus "spooky&quo= t; Quantum effects observed on the atomic scale cannot carry over to the mul= tiphase macroscopic systems of our scale.

Mike Galoob
81 westy
88 Subaru GL-10  

--MS_Mac_OE_3087631082_3482257_MIME_Part-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:25:37 -0800 Reply-To: Matthew Pollard Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Matthew Pollard Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: mike miller In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. > I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level. > > If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. > > Be afraid, be very afraid. > > Mike > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:32:53 EST Reply-To: ThingGuy@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Steve Lashley Subject: Re: Scanner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you really want to buy a scanner, buy a good one. I recommend an HP model. It should cost you around $200. I've tried the cheap scanners ($79) and they don't hold up. By the time you buy and install it and get the software setup and the scanner set for the correct resolution and then print out all of your pages, the $80 copy fees will seem cheap. You could also go to Office Depot or Office Max and use the self service copy machines. (pretty cheap) Steve Lashley SKL Enterprises Inc. http://EuroCampers.com 636-797-9015 636-789-2127 fax ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:46:13 -0800 Reply-To: mike miller Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: mike miller Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: Matthew Pollard In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit me? i'm normal. perfectly normal. absolutely totally normal. really. honest. normal. normal normal normal normal normal 'cept for the van, of course. > From: Matthew Pollard > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:25:37 -0800 (PST) > To: mike miller > Cc: > Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited > > Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. > >> I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level. >> >> If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. >> >> Be afraid, be very afraid. >> >> Mike >> > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:08:48 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Stevens Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Bob Stevens Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: mike miller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C16471.0F11EE80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C16471.0F11EE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ....you're all so weird that I'm beginning to feel normal....whatta = stretch! Bob=20 Original Message -----=20 From: mike miller=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited me? i'm normal. perfectly normal. absolutely totally normal. = really. honest. normal. normal normal normal normal normal 'cept for the van, of course. > From: Matthew Pollard > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:25:37 -0800 (PST) > To: mike miller > Cc: > Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited > > Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. > >> I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro = level. >> >> If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. >> >> Be afraid, be very afraid. >> >> Mike >> > ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C16471.0F11EE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

....you're all so weird that I'm beginning to feel=20 normal....whatta stretch!

Bob

Original Message -----

From:=20 mike = miller=20

To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM =

Sent: Saturday, November 03, = 2001 1:46=20 PM

Subject: Re: The cat debacle or = Schrodinger's Cat revisited

me?  i'm normal.  perfectly normal.  = absolutely=20 totally normal.  really.
honest.  normal.

normal = normal=20 normal normal normal

'cept for the van, of = course.


>=20 From: Matthew Pollard <poll7356@uidaho.edu>
> = Date:=20 Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:25:37 -0800 (PST)
> To: mike miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
> = Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM&g= t;
>=20 Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat = revisited
>
>=20 Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
>
>> I = think=20 there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro=20 level.
>>
>> If you don't I'll introduce you to = Pensioner,=20 Karl W, and BenT.
>>
>> Be afraid, be very=20 afraid.
>>
>>=20 Mike
>>
>

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C16471.0F11EE80-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:30:24 EST Reply-To: KENWILFY@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: KENWILFY@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Frustration in Brake Land Comments: To: sbsyncro@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_137.404b563.2915bbf0_boundary" --part1_137.404b563.2915bbf0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all of the advice on the brakes. The concensus was the rear brakes. I checked them again only to find that my helper had installed the adjusters wrong :( He is kinda new, so I can't be too mad. I installed them properly and adjusted them up and now everything is great. Thanks for all the help and advice. Usually the things that frustrate us most are the simple things. Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com Phone: (856)-765-1583 Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_137.404b563.2915bbf0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all of the advice on the brakes.  The concensus was the rear brakes.  I checked them again only to find that my helper had installed the adjusters wrong :(  He is kinda new, so I can't be too mad.  I installed them properly and adjusted them up and now everything is great.  Thanks for all the help and advice.  Usually the things that frustrate us most are the simple things.

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-765-1583
Fax: (856)-327-2242 --part1_137.404b563.2915bbf0_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:44:04 -0700 Reply-To: "Neal R. Hansen" Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Neal R. Hansen" Subject: Frozen tranny plug follow-up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah! Today I finally got that stubborn plug out. I used a new (Sharp) 17MM hex wrench with a two foot pipe. It broke loose, and all is well in the world. At least mine. Thanks to all those list members who offered suggestions. It was really appreciated. Neal ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:09:04 -0800 Reply-To: Tim Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: Matthew Pollard MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Actually I thought Pensioner was Mike's alias? > Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. > > > I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level. > > > > If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. > > > > Be afraid, be very afraid. > > > > Mike > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:21:58 -0800 Reply-To: mike miller Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: mike miller Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited Comments: To: Tim In-Reply-To: <000a01c164b4$26892ea0$5562e9d1@pacbell.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nope pensioner is much to young to be me. To rich too. > From: Tim > Reply-To: Tim > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:09:04 -0800 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: The cat debacle or Schrodinger's Cat revisited > > Actually I thought Pensioner was Mike's alias? > > >> Uhm, Mike, what about yourself? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. >> >>> I think there are lots of spooky things observable at the macro level. >>> >>> If you don't I'll introduce you to Pensioner, Karl W, and BenT. >>> >>> Be afraid, be very afraid. >>> >>> Mike >>> >> > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:33:09 -0500 Reply-To: Rob Le Duc Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rob Le Duc Subject: looking for mike devlin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1648D.9B351C40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1648D.9B351C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable looking for mike devlin ... from new canaan ct. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1648D.9B351C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

looking for mike devlin ... from new = canaan=20 ct.

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1648D.9B351C40-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:33:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Karl M." Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: "Karl M." Subject: Re: Stuck in MD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Teresa is now on her way back to her home via Greyhound. :-( The day's work had no lasting effect on her Vanagon, after ruling out all other issues and bleeding the cooling system several times, the problem appears to be a warped or cracked cylinder head, not coolant pump as we had decided via phone diagnosis, as there is exhaust gas present in the coolant after a highway run (causing it to boil over). The PO had just replaced all hoses, coolant pump, etc., so most likely the van had already shown symptoms of the worsening problem it has now. As I'm in the hurried midst of packing up my belongings to be ready for settlement Friday, I just couldn't afford any more teardown time today, so Teresa decided to leave the van parked at my shop and return home, and to think about what to do with the van, whether it be new engine, new head, or what. I'm sure she'll be here asking for advice when Greyhound deposits her back in Peoria. I did what I could, oh well! Karl Mullendore Westy Ventures 1987 Syncro Westfalia 1.9TD ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:50:47 -0800 Reply-To: Maximiliano Goldschwartz Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Maximiliano Goldschwartz Subject: thefts, security MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Anybody has experience on how to increase the vanagon's security? I mean make it harder for someone to break in and steal the huge amount of stuff that's in the cabinets. Extra locks? Alarms? Explosive handles? Dangerous animals inside? :) max ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:54:30 -0500 Reply-To: Greg Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Greg Marshall Subject: high idle problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, First of all, thanks to all who offered tips on replacing my valve gasket covers. The process went smoothly and I no longer have oil leaking out onto my heater boxes, and consequently, my van doesn't smell like burning oil when I'm driving anymore. Anyhow, the latest problem is a rather high idle when I stop at lights, stop signs and so on. This problem just started a couple weeks ago. The van is an 82 aircooled california model van. Recently, I changed the exhaust system over from the rotted out california setup to a setup with federal (49 state) heater boxes and a bugpack header system. With this system, I removed the O2 sensor and the Cat, because I just couldn't work them into the new setup. The van is running very well, has lots of power, and my mileage has only dropped a bit, about 19 mpg city. I have recently cleaned up all the grounds, fixed the vacum leaks, and replaced a few other corroded connection in the engine bay. One other thing to add is that the van has no Idle stabalizer like the bentley says it should. It doesn't even have The two black plugs for the idle stabalizer. However, there is a screw hole beside the hall sender unit where I think the idle stabalizer used to be. It appears that the previous owner has removed the idle stabalizer, and plugs, and connected the wires directly. I can see some wires with modern looking connectors attaching them together over near the hall sender. I'm new to being an aircooled mechanic, but I'm learning fast, and I'm hoping I can figure out this idle problem on my own. Any suggestions of what to check, or if i should do anything about the lack of 02 sensor and idle stabalizer? Will putting these back in somehow make the van run better? Thanks a bunch. This list is the best. Greg. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:59:55 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc In-Reply-To: <003401c16485$d3e65480$0f4fded8@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Hi Andrew. About the only diesels here in the US are the VW. In >the large pickup trucks is the next series, a bit larger than I >want for a vanagon. 7.0 Liter or so. How do I find a G50 in >Germany? Shame... virtually every Japanese vehicle, apart fromcoupes, sporties, Hondas and Subarus (and Toyota Celsior=Lexus LS series) is available as a diesel (NOT a good thing if it's not a Toyota!). Most of these are brought in as used imports from Japan, which by far outsell new cars! G50? Here's what I passed on to another inquirer: Marty Schneider (MSDS) or makes an installation kit for the G50 trans, which he normally sells only as part of his complete 911-conversion kit. He did say he'd sell me a trans-only part, but then every time I tried to actually order one, he put me off: "Not enough stock just now. I have to consider my full-kit customers first; try again in a few months". His kit includes a CNC-milled mounting block adaptor to fit the 911 shifter into the VW floor; rod adaptors etc, and front trans mount. His prices are frightening, but for the alternative of getting it done from scratch you may pay just as much, and the cobbled-together item may not work well at all. I intend to fit Porsche 993 ventilated drilled brakes at both ends, using Hansen Motorsport (Germany) kit. This will require 17" wheels, in place of the near-new Mercedes CLK 16" alloys with 205/55/16 Continentals I brought in from the States recently... know anyone who wants CLK wheels?? (NOT cheap, but I'm not asking the $4000 they're worth). My used trans came from Sportswagenservice Jacobi, a small Porsche wrecker in Hamminkeln, in the NW corner of Germany, near Dutch border. It was a lot of dicking around; unbelievably, it took over a year to get organized. I am just hoping the thing actually arrives! Contact Martin Jacubowski (his boss Peter Jacobi prefers to leave sales to Martin) at , or at home . Tell him I sent you. Breakdown of my parts: 1989 G50 LSD short-bellhousing trans with slave cylinder & release arm complete, price DM2700 G50 starter DM280 G50 clutch, good used DM1100 G50 gearshift complete system DM450 steel Vanagon engine lid DM100 Konis new set DM750 Handling DM150 (shipping to NZ not included) VAT 16%, refundable on arrival; return shipping documents to Jacobi (odd, but it appears this is how it works buying from Germany). Jacobi does not take creditcards; they want telegraphic transfer. They sent master cylinder instead of slave... Call your bank for latest exchange rates. Another option is Van Zweeden in Holland; contact Melanie at . Trans price similar to Jacobi's, but didn't have the other bits at the time, or just didn't reply. And I bet they woldn't send an LSD unit at that price! Re CV joints & rear axles: MSDS' kit includes Sway-A-Way adaptor axles and Weddle 28-tooth 930-pattern stubaxles. Or buy axles & stubs direct from Weddle; prices start at $549US, depending on axle length etc. Contact Chris Weddle at . Specify Vanagon axles, or you'll get Bug units! G50 PARTS -trans, 1978-1989 -slave cylinder -release mechanism -clutch -gearshift mechanism complete -starter optional (ask KEP) NEW 911 PARTS -4 x 930 CV joints complete KEP -flywheel -adaptor plate (X - VW/Porsche) MSDS -trans-fitting kit OR -Weddle Vanagon/930 stubaxles -Weddle or Sway-A-Way 28-tooth 930 adaptor axles -manufacture front trans mount -manufacture shifter adaptor OTHER -fabricate exhaust -fabricate engine crossmember/mounts -engine electrics (I suggest a Link computer) -convert tacho to read six-cylinder if fitting a six -connect alternator, power steering, aircon HAVE I FORGOTTEN ANYTHING? Here assuming no catalytic converter or other smog gear needed; mine will have none. Get it all done nicely and you'll have the best van in the world... apart from a hotted-up Toyota Hiace Super Custom! Regards Andrew ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:59:55 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: South African parts For Sale..... Comments: To: Judy Pearce In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >please explain to this novice: > south african parts > bay window > >thanks... VW South Africa manufactures various models. The Type 25, or Type 2 T3 Transporter ("Vanagon" in USA), is still made there. The Caravelle version is the top-of-the-line one, with rectangular headlights. The Microbus version has dual round lights; the inner pair is smaller, much like a Golf GTi, and looks really aggressive; this grill fits all round-light T3s. The lower grill is a full-width 1-piece item without any foglights, and looks much better than the stock German Hitler-mustache unit! Bays were the Type 2 T2 (or Series 2), 1967-1989 and still in production in Mexico & Brasil; these are basically much-modified T1s (Splits), with redesigned cab and curved windshield; early models retained the Split's rear shape and lights; later versions changes this to a more squared-off rear. -- Andrew Grebneff 165 EvansSt, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand Ph: 0064 (3) 473-8863 fax: 0064 (3) 479-7527 1986 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE80 diesel sedan 1989 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE96 diesel van 1989 Toyota Corona 2.0D Select CT170 diesel sedan 1992 Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turbodiesel MPV (=narrow "Previa") 1984 VW Caravelle GL (to be fitted with 260hp Subaru SVX flat-6 & Porsche G50 trans) Seashell, Macintosh, VW & Toyota van nut ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:59:55 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: engine efficiency, I4s, subies, etc In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I would also agree that the TDi should not be squandered on the 5.86 ring and >pinion of the regular N/A 1.6 diesel. Ideal case for a European or SA 5 >speed. If I were to do it, I'd probably go for a Porsche 915 trans and have >top gear setup for 70 mph at 3000 rpm. Of course, if you are in about $3,000 >for the TDi you will probably match that amount for the trans, rebuild of >trans and adapter hardware. The Porsche G50 trans is MUCH stronger, and I just got an LSD G50 ex Germany for $1200US, less than the US price for a good 915. >The problem is the strength of the >Vanagon transmission. As I have often said, the weak link in this vehicle is >just forward of the flywheel!.... But the question remains, can the >mainshaft and the 3/4 hub hold up to this. Sullivan either knows or will know >at least an anecdotal answer (single data point). Albins in Australia offers gears (customers' choice of custom ratios) for any rear-engined VW trans; these are wider than stock gears and are the strongest made anywhere; you won't break them. Their mainshaft is also thicker than stock, and won't break either. A full set of gears/mainshaft costs about $1200AUS for a 4-speed van. That's a lot less than $1200US. >As to why the torque curves go to hell after 4000 on most automotive diesels, >I have always assumed that it was a fuel delivery problem. As the injector >transfer pressure go up, and injectors go electrical, and injection is >directly into the chamber, the torque curves keep going upward to higher >values. In addition, the exhaust circuits in most turbo diesels and flow >characteristics of the turbos are designed foe 1200 to 4400 rpm operation. >Variable vane technology would enhance this range. So its just money! Yep. What I want is a direct-injection common-rail DOHC 4-valve TDI with an 8000rpm redline. They'll come... manufacturers are working on these engines, and finally coupes and even sporties (don't make the mistake of confusing the two) will soon be offered with diesel option, eg the Audi TT. How about a diesel 911? (dunno if Porsche is considering dieseling...). I can't see why a high-revving diesel isn't possible, but I doubt the new diesels will be anything like 8000rpm. But they WILL offer AT LEAST as much performance as the gas versions of the same models. -- Andrew Grebneff 165 EvansSt, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand Ph: 0064 (3) 473-8863 fax: 0064 (3) 479-7527 1986 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE80 diesel sedan 1989 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE96 diesel van 1989 Toyota Corona 2.0D Select CT170 diesel sedan 1992 Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turbodiesel MPV (=narrow "Previa") 1984 VW Caravelle GL (to be fitted with 260hp Subaru SVX flat-6 & Porsche G50 trans) Seashell, Macintosh, VW & Toyota van nut ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:32:14 -0500 Reply-To: Greg Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Greg Marshall Subject: O2 sensor question. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an 82 air cooled california vanagon that I've put federal heater boxes on and a header exhaust system. I have removed the O2 sensor, but it has been suggested that my mileage would go up if i reinstalled it. Here's my dilemna. The O2 sensor was originally in the crossover pipe at a point where it was taking a reading from the exhaust out of all four heads mixed together. With my current system, the four headers converge right at the muffler, so there is no way to install the sensor in a place where exhaust from all four cyclinders has merged. The only option for putting the O2 sensor back in the current system, would have the O2 sensor only reading from one of the four header pipes. I assume this means that it would be taking a reading from only one cylinder. Is this a problem? Wouldn't this mean that the ECU would alter the fuel/air mix based on information from only one cylinder? Should I leave the sensor off, or put it back in one of the header pipes? If I put it back, Hwich header pipe should I put it on? Does it matter? Thanks folks. Greg. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:43:19 -1000 Reply-To: Andrew M Fox Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew M Fox Subject: can vanagon run w/out alternator? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My question is if the alternator fails on a vanagon can you keep the engine running assuming you don't need headlights or any other accesories? I know that on some cars the EFI uses electricity so if the alternator goes you have a limited amount of time before there is'nt enough electricity to to run these critical engine electrical systms. If you can't run the engine without proper voltage does anyone know what the electrical draw is of the vanagon engine, ie how long can you go before having to get a tow or switch to your alternate battery (if you have one). Recently on a long trip my alternator stopped working. I was able to drive but when i stopped for gas and tried to start it again there was'nt enough juice for the starter. I used my auxillary battery to jumpstart the van and was on my way. Thanks, Andrew Fox 86 Westy Ft. Collins CO ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:49:37 -0500 Reply-To: George Averill Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: George Averill Subject: Re: antisieze compound Comments: To: Matthew Pollard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the reply. Yes, on the oxygen sensor. I was wondering if you meant that the antisieze tended to isolate the ground side of the circuit by insulating the sensor where the threads meet the exhaust pipe. From your reply, I guess this isn't a problem. George (84 Camper) ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Pollard To: George Averill Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: Re: antisieze compound > antisieze on what? The oxygen sensor i suppose. There is junk in the > antisiezxe compound that will quickly foul up your oxygen sensor. This is > a well known and documented thing. Well, i need to qualify this- when you > purchase some oxygen sensors, they already come with some antisieze > smudged on them (bosch does for sure). That is OK and should be there. IF > you added some antisieze i'd be weary and careful. > > does this help > m > > Matthew Pollard "Racing with the wind and flirting with death > Dept. Of Chemistry So have a cup of coffee and catch your breath" > University of Idaho > www.uidaho.edu/~poll7356 > > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:19:01 -0700 Reply-To: Gnarlodious Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Gnarlodious Subject: Caveat Empyor Comments: To: "Karl M." In-Reply-To: <002c01c164b8$2a61d820$133f2e3f@xtechoem> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Oh boy, that is harsh! My sympathies to Teresa. Guess they DID see her coming. Caveat Emptor means what is says, she can sue the seller. Keep us posted. Rachel http://www.gnarlodious.com Entity Karl M. spoke thus: > All, > Teresa is now on her way back to her home via Greyhound. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:42:01 -0900 Reply-To: Michael Moery Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Michael Moery Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Vanagons, like most all modern vehicles, need electricity to run. When the alternator quits, the engine will run off the battery for quite a while, as long as all the accessories are off, especially the headlights. While it takes just a small current to power the ignition system, the starter is another matter, as you discovered. It takes a lot of amperage to start. Diesels, on the other hand need only enough power to energize the fuel solenoid, so they can run without an alternator for a very long time. Same problem with starting though. Mike Moery, Anchorage, AK =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0---------------- =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0||E[__] [__]|[_]\\=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0| =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D| - =A0=A0|| =A0=20 * * * =A0=3D( o )--------( o )=3D =3D=3D'Ol Bessie '82TD Westy =20 -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Andrew M Fox Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 2:43 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: can vanagon run w/out alternator? My question is if the alternator fails on a vanagon can you keep the engine running assuming you don't need headlights or any other accesories? I know that on some cars the EFI uses electricity so if the alternator goes you have a limited amount of time before there is'nt enough electricity to to run these critical engine electrical systms. If you can't run the engine without proper voltage does anyone know what the electrical draw is of the vanagon engine, ie how long can you go before having to get a tow or switch to your alternate battery (if you have one). Recently on a long trip my alternator stopped working. I was able to drive but when i stopped for gas and tried to start it again there was'nt enough juice for the starter. I used my auxillary battery to jumpstart the van and was on my way. Thanks, Andrew Fox 86 Westy Ft. Collins CO ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 20:54:33 -0500 Reply-To: Greg Marshall Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Greg Marshall Subject: oil pressure sender thread size. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, To install my oil pressure guage, I need the little hose adapter that allows the sender to be mounted slightly away from the engine. I found one for much cheaper than any of the usual vendors, but I'm unsure if the thread is correct. The seller says it is 1/8 npt on each end. Is this right? Is this the same thread as the hole it needs to go into in the engine and the vdo sender? Thanks again folks, you're all so helpful. Greg. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:18:44 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Tony Subject: Re: tyres Comments: To: jboldway@INTCON.NET In-Reply-To: <200111020419.fA24Jnb21038@linux.intcon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks to this list (again) for the great feedback on tires -- i went ahead and ordered (2) Agilis 205/70/14's for my passenger vanagon....$130 mount/balanced, tax....i've heard the thread about Michelin no longer importing them etec...so far they are in stock in August and again now in November..so cool looks like they're gonna be around..anyone know any truth to the rumour that M isn't bringing/making them anymore? Tony --- "James T." wrote: > Due to stupidity (mine), I am able to give a tyre > report. Missed seeing one of > those 6'x8"x8" parking "curbs" in the parking lot of > the local store. Square > corner of parking curb slid up sidewall of tyre and > put a nice dent in one of > the rim halves. So, I have a pair of Agelis 61s on > order. My 85 Westy had > Agelis 61s in the rear and MTX or whatever the older > popular michelin was. Had > a pair of Veredestein transport studded snows that I > picked up mounted on > vanagon rims in Seattle for a foolishly low price - > like new, 1800 LB at 50psi > 185 R14Cs. Put the Ageliss up front and the > vredesteins in the back - will > reinstall new agelis in rear when the arrive and > will go back to studdeds in > like January. > Notes on new tyre combo (with KBY shocks new last > year). I really like the > vredesteins. super stiff sidewall - no rear > fishtailing at all. A little more > vertical "bump" when going over speed bumps, but > otherwise great. Agelis in > front versus older michelisn - older michelins were > more forgiving in all > directions. Agelis seems to let me know I've got a > part or two loose in my > steering gear. But, at the same time, the agelis > seem to turn easier and track > just as well. So, the main things I've noticed after > purchasing the van - > replacing the original Sachs shocks with KBY made > the best improvement, > replacing the michelin MTX rear tyres with Agelis > 61s made the next biggest > improvement as the rear end used to fishtail with > the old MTXs. I keep front at > 48 PSI and rear at 50 PSI. Old Michelin MTX had tons > of tread left, but when i > purchased teh van I had numerous sidewall cracks > near the rim. Not sure if > underinflation or just old age. Was a little scared, > that's why I replaced the > rear michelins. Noticed that the MTXs were made in > France while the Agelis 61s > are made in Italy. Note on Agelis 61s - if you try > to order these through the > computer systems in stores like NTB, Parts Depot, > tire express, etc. you will > get "out of stock." You need to have the salesman > physically call the warehouse > or michelin - and he will be told "these tires are > for emergency release only > for Westy vanagons - no other uses are permitted." > Worries me - sounds like > stock is getting low. > Was told there was a vanagon westy in a salvage yard > near me. I'm going to > check out the tyres and pick up a pair if I can get > them cheap. Sounds like > time to stock up. > Anybody need any funky vanagon/westy parts? Not sure > what year westy in > junkyard is - I'll check it out on Saturday and > report back. Westy vanagons > aren't worth much here in > Kansas. > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:30:19 -0800 Reply-To: Rennie Wible Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rennie Wible Subject: Re: Best Way To Get Factory Parts From The Dealer Comments: To: Derek Drew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Derek. If you need to contact me directly, I can be reached at Peyton Cramer Volkswagen 20460 Hawthorne Blvd Torrance CA 90503 (310) 370-9999 x 253 Fax 793-7967 Cell 614-2967 I can be reached on my cell anytime, but please not too late! Derek Drew wrote: > > Frank, here is the scoop on where to order your factory parts from > when ordering from Volkswagen directly. > > So far as I know, both Rennie and Camelback are still in the business > and are excellent sources of factory parts. Their prices will be > comparable but I think Rennie may have a slight price advantage. > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:50:07 -0800 Reply-To: kirk swezey Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: kirk swezey Subject: Shift Lever Noise Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all. I have a squeaking metal to metal sound with some of my shifts. I have laid plenty of grease on the ball at the base of the shift lever with no result. Does anyone know where to lube this problem? Kirk '90 Syncro ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:59:08 -0800 Reply-To: Brian Cochran Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Brian Cochran Subject: Re: thefts, security Comments: To: maxito@PACBELL.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html

This is a pretty involved question I could answer it with a number of devious answers.

One that comes to mind is, "Make sure that the VANAGON labels are kept clean and easily readable."  But that only works for those thieves that have owned vanagons in the past or know a friend that owns one.

Seriously, I live in Capital hill-Seattle.  Our apartment was burglarized three weeks ago and pretty much all the major valuables were taken.  We lost over ten grand of important stuff.  The lost computer has been an extreme PITA that I'm still dealing with.  Criminal are predators preying on, most of the time, working class folks that are just trying to get by in this world with a little dignity.  The rich folks who can "afford" to lose from petty thievery usually have pretty fancy security systems leaving themselves sittin' pretty.

Sorry for the rampage, but I've built myself an ANGST pile to burn, since most of my valuable that I lost in the incident were in the vanagon shortly before we left for dinner.  I took them out since I thought the apartment would be safer than the vanagon......wrong!  Here's why:

My van was bought with a VIPER alarm system on it. ( I've seen in for about $100) Any doors or any bumps and that damn siren goes off and it is really, really bad.  Just hearing it makes you want to go find the jacka*s that owns it and beat the cr*p out him.  That true for myself include, however, I'm the owner.  Usually it only goes off when the garbage truck is going by. (vibrations).  Aside from that, If you really own the "kind" equip., put the curtains up.  Thieves don't break into something unless what's there and it's a sure thing for something they can turn into liquid$$ to go buy dope.  Keep your CD's out of view.  I have a stereo with a removable face AND a fake cheap-a*s AM radio face to take its place if I'm in a bad area for parking.

The last suggestion is to get insurance for such a horrible event.  Because we should all keep in mind, that there is NO system that is completely secure!! (that goes for national security as well, even though I tried really hard to keep politics out of this.)

Brian Cochran

84 westy

seattle

From:    Maximiliano Goldschwartz <maxito@PACBELL.NET>
Subject: thefts, security

Anybody has experience on how to increase the vanagon's security?
I mean make it harder for someone to break in and steal the huge amount of
stuff that's in the cabinets.

Extra locks?
Alarms?
Explosive handles?

Dangerous animals inside? :)


max

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========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:29:30 -0500 Reply-To: Amy and Andrew Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Amy and Andrew Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a '91 Grand Prix with EFI and it ran for about 30 minutes, after the alternator went, before the voltage got to low (I believe 10 volts) to keep the engine running. I didn't need my headlights or use turn signals, radio, or fan. The Grand Prix had a much smaller battery than my '84 Westy has so I assume my Westy could go much further. Andrew 1984 Westy "Speed Bump" 1996 VW Jetta Trek "Little Beep" (the wife's car) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew M Fox" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 6:43 PM Subject: can vanagon run w/out alternator? > My question is if the alternator fails on a vanagon can you keep the > engine running assuming you don't need headlights or any other accesories? > I know that on some cars the EFI uses electricity so if the alternator > goes you have a limited amount of time before there is'nt enough > electricity to to run these critical engine electrical systms. If you > can't run the engine without proper voltage does anyone know what the > electrical draw is of the vanagon engine, ie how long can you go before > having to get a tow or switch to your alternate battery (if you have > one). Recently on a long trip my alternator stopped working. I was able > to drive but when i stopped for gas and tried to start it again there > was'nt enough juice for the starter. I used my auxillary battery to > jumpstart the van and was on my way. > > Thanks, > Andrew Fox > 86 Westy > Ft. Collins CO > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:44:38 -0500 Reply-To: David Beierl Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: David Beierl Subject: Re: Blowing Voltage Regulator For Guages Comments: To: FrankGRUN@aol.com, Paul Kirsch In-Reply-To: <33.1d5ea931.2915a8e1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:09 PM 11/3/2001, FrankGRUN@aol.com wrote: >David, > >I've never seen this. Any more details? The tech bulletin used to be on line somewhere but I can't find it. It's bulletin 908800, Adding diode to circuit after replacing voltage stabilizer -- available at http://www.alldatadiy.com/alldata/AFI~V81522~C10043~R0~OD~N/0/41745968/56620833/56620834/56620836/34853741/34850750/42063452/42765948 if you happen to have paid Alldata their $20 or whatever it is. david David Beierl - Providence, RI http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" '85 GL "Poor Relation" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:46:30 -0500 Reply-To: Data Services Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Data Services Subject: Re: What to buy? Many "buying guide" questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go a couple grand and do it right. Get a late model (real) Vanagon Westy with all the goodies you want to maintain for about 6k. Put a 2001 golf Tiico conversion with the motronic control for another 6k (after all is done), and you'll have the best of both worlds. Dave 83 Tiico Westy 83 WBX Westy 59 SO4 Westy interior ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Wilder" To: Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: What to buy? Many "buying guide" questions > Bos (San Francisco, CA) .............. Bos Wrote > Is there any reason not to get an older Eurovan instead? (I've seen 93s > and 94s that are not much more expensive than the newer Vanagons). Are > there things to watch out for when looking at Eurovans? If you had $10k, > would you rather buy an excellent Vanagon or a good Eurovan? > > Stan Wilder wrote: > Definitely go for the Eurovan type Westfalia conversion.(92 and up) Horse > power is the key and keeping up with traffic can fry an Air-Cooled or > throw a rod in A WaserBoxer. Newer is better. Nostalgia is for parked > cars. After you've done your first few lengthy trips in your 92 or newer > Eurovan you can pick up a splittie as a hobby car. > > That is the way I'd do it with ten grand. > Of course you always have options but you'll want to turn on your Air > Conditioner without loosing 15 mph and that knocks out Air-Cooled. Travel > should be a pleasure.............. Mountains are great places to camp but > you gotta get there first. > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:47:23 -0800 Hans Bos writes: > > Dear list members (and Vanagon experts), > > > > I have searched the archives for answers to these questions, but > > only found topics concerned with the pros and cons of water vs. air. > > So, here goes: > > > > I am thinking of replacing my too-large Toyota motorhome with a > > Westfalia camper (after renting one in Hawaii and being very pleased > > with the size and driveability). In addition to the motorhome I > > currently own an old beetle convertible and I'm thinking of > > replacing the beetle with some kind of Westfalia that I can actually > > park in front of the house and use to get groceries as well as take > > camping for weekends. The eternal question is what to buy? I could > > spend some money on this project (not as much as a new Eurovan), but > > of course I would try to spend as little as possible and still be > > fairly comfortable. I am very flexible (i.e., I don't really know > > what I want). > > > > Here are my questions: > > > > Aesthetically and emotionally, I think I would prefer a Bay Window > > Type II (bus) instead of a Vanagon. What are the advantages of > > getting an aircooled Vanagon instead? (I live in California, so I'm > > assuming I can find a 70s Type II with a decent body.) Are Vanagons > > considerably more comfortable or powerful than Type IIs? > > > > If I did decide to get a Vanagon, how would I go about finding one > > that is technically sound? Do I need to be more careful with the > > aircooled ones or with the water-cooled ones? Are there any shops > > or used VW dealers in the Bay Area that specialize in Vanagons and > > buses? > > > > Is there any reason not to get an older Eurovan instead? (I've seen > > 93s and 94s that are not much more expensive than the newer > > Vanagons). Are there things to watch out for when looking at > > Eurovans? If you had $10k, would you rather buy an excellent > > Vanagon or a good Eurovan? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > ns Bos (San Francisco, CA) > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:44:23 -0600 Reply-To: Stan Wilder Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Stan Wilder Subject: Re: thefts, security Comments: To: maxito@PACBELL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a brick office building, no windows, no sky lights, very heavy front door with burglar bar grill and super strong overhead door. The entire building was inside of a chain link fence. They crashed a stolen truck into the building to get entry. There aren't any secure ways to keep your possessions, if somebody wants them they'll find a way in. I've never had anything stolen from my Westfalia but I'm expecting it to happen at some point in the future. We've had three cars stolen right out of our driveway and a couple of others that the thieves just mutilated buy cutting the seats, dash board and kicking in the radio and instruments when they could not get past our second ignition trip switch. All I can say is don't leave any valuables in sight and carry hundred dollar items into your house or just find a way not to leave/have them in your vehicle. Car alarm systems go off all of the time while I'm at the grocery store parking lot and they are ignored by everybody. The security guards at shopping malls don't chase to see If a vehicle is being burglarized when the alarm goes off, your neighbors don't even get out of their chairs to take a look when your home or car alarm goes off. Stan Wilder 83 Westfalia Air Cooled On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:50:47 -0800 Maximiliano Goldschwartz writes: > Anybody has experience on how to increase the vanagon's security? > I mean make it harder for someone to break in and steal the huge > amount of > stuff that's in the cabinets. > > Extra locks? > Alarms? > Explosive handles? > > Dangerous animals inside? :) > > > max > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:58:59 -0500 Reply-To: Dennis Haynes Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dennis Haynes Subject: Re: oil pressure sender thread size. Comments: To: Greg Marshall In-Reply-To: <3BE49FD9.BFF6B3EA@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The proper thread is 100mm, 1.0 pitch. -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Greg Marshall Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 8:55 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: oil pressure sender thread size. Hello folks, To install my oil pressure guage, I need the little hose adapter that allows the sender to be mounted slightly away from the engine. I found one for much cheaper than any of the usual vendors, but I'm unsure if the thread is correct. The seller says it is 1/8 npt on each end. Is this right? Is this the same thread as the hole it needs to go into in the engine and the vdo sender? Thanks again folks, you're all so helpful. Greg. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:59:47 -0500 Reply-To: Dennis Haynes Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Dennis Haynes Subject: Re: oil pressure sender thread size. Comments: To: Greg Marshall In-Reply-To: <3BE49FD9.BFF6B3EA@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Oops!! That was 10.0 mm. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Greg Marshall Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 8:55 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: oil pressure sender thread size. Hello folks, To install my oil pressure guage, I need the little hose adapter that allows the sender to be mounted slightly away from the engine. I found one for much cheaper than any of the usual vendors, but I'm unsure if the thread is correct. The seller says it is 1/8 npt on each end. Is this right? Is this the same thread as the hole it needs to go into in the engine and the vdo sender? Thanks again folks, you're all so helpful. Greg. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:08:48 EST Reply-To: TStone8359@AOL.COM Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Tom Stone Subject: Re: oil pressure sender thread size. Comments: To: earthboy@home.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bb.1650e33b.29161950_boundary" --part1_bb.1650e33b.29161950_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure of the size but I used the hose for a manual grease gun to mount mine away from the engine and the used nylon zip ties to hold it tight to the pushrod tubes. Tom '71 Westy, '85 Westy, '91 Carat --part1_bb.1650e33b.29161950_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure of the size but I used the hose for a manual grease gun to mount mine away from the engine and the used nylon zip ties to hold it tight to the pushrod tubes. 

Tom
'71 Westy, '85 Westy, '91 Carat --part1_bb.1650e33b.29161950_boundary-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:15:53 -0500 Reply-To: Carl Hansen Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Carl Hansen Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? Comments: To: Andrew M Fox Comments: cc: SyncroList - post Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 15 miles, then dead. well, not sure how "up" the battery was to start with, but it started normally, so I'm assuming it was OK. Lots of corrosion from sitting for a year with little use, cleaned up the brushes and ?stator? and I may have even replaced the regulator/brushes assembly. YMMV Ch Carl Hansen 609-268-8595 - home 856-866-6387 - work carl_hansen@ieee.org - personal carl.hansen@lmco.com - work In a perfect world without walls or fences........ .....................why would we need Windows or Gates? **** SNIP FROM ORIGINAL **** My question is if the alternator fails on a vanagon can you keep the engine running assuming you don't need headlights or any other accesories? I know that on some cars the EFI uses electricity so if the alternator goes you have a limited amount of ti ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:15:35 -0800 Reply-To: Rennie Wible Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rennie Wible Subject: Re: plastic parts to hold-in and adjust headlights are crumbling Comments: To: Ed Shultz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My headlights are falling out (literally) and ETKA shows the following > part #s required: > > Position Part # Description Quan (total for both sides) > 8 255 941 133 adjusting piece 2 $3.18ea > 9 255 941 133 A adjusting piece 2 $3.18ea > 10 255 941 141 C adjusting piece 2 $3.42ea > 11 191 941 297 adapter with adjusting screw 2 $3.42ea > for vertical adjustment > 12 255 941 141 B adjusting screw 4 $3.04ea > Her are the prices of the above items I can supply. This is the listee price, not including shipping or tax (where applicable). Rennie VolksDragon@earthlink.net Los Angeles Peyton Cramer Volkswagen Ed Shultz wrote: > > Frank, > > Please post your results if you find any. Mine are split and crumbling > also. I'm afraid every time I remove the front grill and the light buckets > for something. > > Thanks, > > Ed > > At 08:40 AM 11/02/2001 -0500, fty@CISCO.COM wrote: > >Ah, the joys of old cars .. > > > >Nearly all the platic parts that hold in and adjust the headlights are > >crumbling on my '86. ETKA shows all the part #s (see below). Was wondering > >if there was another source other than the dealer - checked Bus Depot's part > ># lookup and it has none of them. It's also hard to tell if the part # > >refers to the plastic bit *and* the screw, or just the screw. > > > >Anyone else has headlights that are falling out? Better check! > > > >cheers - Frank > > > > >From ETKA: > >Position Part # Description Quan (total for both > >sides) > >8 255 941 133 adjusting piece 2 > >9 255 941 133 A adjusting piece 2 > >10 255 941 141 C adjusting piece 2 > >11 191 941 297 adapter with adjusting screw 2 > > for vertical adjustment > >12 255 941 141 B adjusting screw 4 > > > >9&12 are for the Hi-beam (smaller light) > >8,10,11 for the Lo-beam > > > > > >\\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ > >Frank Terhaar-Yonkers W4FTY TRA 8325/L2 > >Cisco Systems, Inc. > >NSITE - Pineview Building - RTP > >7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 > >Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 > >fty@cisco.com voice(919)392-2101 fx(919)392-6927 > > Ed Shultz, RCDD > Genuity, Inc. > Manager, Network Systems Design > NSD Home Page: http://eng-web.genuity.com/net-eng/ipeng/nsd/ipnsd.htm > V: 781-262-4324, F:781-262-2744, P:1151209@skymail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:28:11 -0800 Reply-To: Rennie Wible Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rennie Wible Subject: Re: Sensor connector sources? Comments: To: Ed Carroll MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, I can get some of the wires. However, VW only supplies the connectors already crimped on both ends of a 12" wire. These run anywhere from $2. ea to $10 ea, depending on the connector. VW recommends using heat sealed butt connectors when using these wires. Also, use yellow electrical tape. This makes it stand out for the next person that has to troubleshoot it next time! Rennie VolksDragon@earthlink.net Los Angeles Peyton Cramer VW Ed Carroll wrote: > > Don't I remember seeing on some familiar vendor's website a good > variety of the original connectors needed to repair wiring within the > engine compartment? I thought I saw those somewhere and now can't > find them. > > Reason I ask is that the Temp. II sensor connector (blue, two spade > spring clip at the thermostat housing) comes with enough wire to > reach the hot exhaust pipes when doing timing/troubleshooting with > the engine running. Oy! What a smell! I kind of carved away the burnt > parts and stuck it back together, but it's unreliable. Options are: > A) replace, B) duct tape. > > Any help appreciated. > > On another topic (and yes, I will search the archives as well, now > that they work), has anyone done the wiring harness upgrade, and how > many hours would you estimate? Was it worth it? > > Ed Carroll > 87 Weekender > 69 Karmann Ghia convertible ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:33:58 -0800 Reply-To: Robert Crawford Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Robert Crawford Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? Comments: To: Andrew M Fox In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed When my Diesel Vanagon caught fire I just replaced a bunch of fuel hoses, connected a lead to the shut-off solenoid and ran some jumper cables from the starter to the battery. So no, it does not *need* an alternator to run. I will say that it was not running in top form under that condition. At 01:43 PM 11/3/01 -1000, Andrew M Fox wrote: >My question is if the alternator fails on a vanagon can you keep the >engine running assuming you don't need headlights or any other accesories? >I know that on some cars the EFI uses electricity so if the alternator >goes you have a limited amount of time before there is'nt enough >electricity to to run these critical engine electrical systms. If you >can't run the engine without proper voltage does anyone know what the >electrical draw is of the vanagon engine, ie how long can you go before >having to get a tow or switch to your alternate battery (if you have >one). Recently on a long trip my alternator stopped working. I was able >to drive but when i stopped for gas and tried to start it again there >was'nt enough juice for the starter. I used my auxillary battery to >jumpstart the van and was on my way. > >Thanks, >Andrew Fox >86 Westy >Ft. Collins CO ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:02:30 -0800 Reply-To: Rennie Wible Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Rennie Wible Subject: Re: TIICO- Oil Filters - P/N Clarification Comments: To: Gary Stearns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is starting to get away from the TIICO bit, but. . . First off, does the diesel vanagon run the filter in the same location as the TIICO conversion? I ask because VW supplies the same filter for diesel vanagons and Jetta/Rabbits. Maybe run the diesel filter instead? I used to run these on my old 1835cc engines because they wouldn't pop when the pressure got too high for the type 4 filters. Second, the P/N of filters have changed, but not the way everyone has mentioned. 056 115 561G: This was made for all gas early inline w/c engines. VW has superceded this part to 034 115 561A. 034 115 561A: This is used on all gas w/c inline engines until 98 (jetta/beetle/golf), 99 (passat) and up to present on cabrios (you figure it out). A few tech people (at VW) have told me this will be superceded to 06A 115 561B soon. 06A 115 561: Already superceded to 06A 115 561B. IGS 115 561: TIICO filter. Not listed in VW price book, nor is it accepted, or better yet superceded, to any other filter in ETKA. 06A 115 561B: You guessed it, all the gas inline engines newer than the list above. The only differences I have seen on the 034 and the 06A is the location of the check valve. Why VW says to use an 034 on a 99 Passat 1.8T and an 06A on a 99 Beetle 1.8T (exactly the same internals) is way beyond me. p.s. These are for gas, inline, 4 cyl US VWs Just for entertainment purposes. Mongo only pawn in game of life. Rennie VolksDragon@earthlink.net Los Angeles Peyton Cramer VW ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:13:07 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: thefts, security Comments: To: Maximiliano Goldschwartz In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Anybody has experience on how to increase the vanagon's security? >I mean make it harder for someone to break in and steal the huge amount of >stuff that's in the cabinets. > >Extra locks? >Alarms? >Explosive handles? > >Dangerous animals inside? :) Yeah, leave the wife inside... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:16:04 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? In-Reply-To: <001201c164e0$ee4166c0$c5e027cc@d5f1h1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I had a '91 Grand Prix with EFI and it ran for about 30 minutes, after the >alternator went, before the voltage got to low (I believe 10 volts) to keep >the engine running. I didn't need my headlights or use turn signals, radio, >or fan. The Grand Prix had a much smaller battery than my '84 Westy has so I >assume my Westy could go much further. You didn't look in the Pontiac owner's handbook, under the brick in the trunk toolkit. There's a panel on the bottom of the passenger-side dash. Open this, pull out handle and turn to hand-crank magneto to keep engine going... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:16:04 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: thefts, security In-Reply-To: <20011103.214648.-159575.5.wilden1@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Car alarm systems go off all of the time while I'm at the grocery store >parking lot and they are ignored by everybody. >The security guards at shopping malls don't chase to see If a vehicle is >being burglarized when the alarm goes off, your neighbors don't even get >out of their chairs to take a look when your home or car alarm goes off. Agreed. Alarms aren't worth the cost of their packaging... purely because people don't want to get involved. -- Andrew Grebneff 165 EvansSt, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand Ph: 0064 (3) 473-8863 fax: 0064 (3) 479-7527 1986 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE80 diesel sedan 1989 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE96 diesel van 1989 Toyota Corona 2.0D Select CT170 diesel sedan 1992 Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turbodiesel MPV (=narrow "Previa") 1984 VW Caravelle GL (to be fitted with 260hp Subaru SVX flat-6 & Porsche G50 trans) Seashell, Macintosh, VW & Toyota van nut ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:16:04 +1200 Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Andrew Grebneff Subject: Re: can vanagon run w/out alternator? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011103213008.02c4b010@mail.snowcrest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >When my Diesel Vanagon caught fire I just replaced a bunch of fuel hoses, >connected a lead to the shut-off solenoid and ran some jumper cables from >the starter to the battery. So no, it does not *need* an alternator to >run. I will say that it was not running in top form under that condition. An old-fasioned diesel has no engine electrics apart from MAYBE a fuel-shutoff valve, and so can run indefinitely without alternator or battery. But you'd have to pushstart. My 57 panel Split, running a 12V single-port 1600 back in 1983, had a regulator failure at the beginning of a 900km (each way) trip; a wire in the winding broke. I had to use wipers for some time, and it got dark. It did about 320km before the engine began sputtering and I had to turn the wipers off; a further 40 or so before the QH headlights became too much for the draining battery, and we had drive on parking lights to find a town and doss down on the grass in a park (van was FULL of heavy junk). I thought it did really well. By the way, I assume your diesel van's fire was electrical! -- Andrew Grebneff 165 EvansSt, Dunedin 9001, New Zealand Ph: 0064 (3) 473-8863 fax: 0064 (3) 479-7527 1986 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE80 diesel sedan 1989 Toyota Corolla 1.8DX CE96 diesel van 1989 Toyota Corona 2.0D Select CT170 diesel sedan 1992 Toyota Estima Lucida 2.2 turbodiesel MPV (=narrow "Previa") 1984 VW Caravelle GL (to be fitted with 260hp Subaru SVX flat-6 & Porsche G50 trans) Seashell, Macintosh, VW & Toyota van nut ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:44:31 -1000 Reply-To: Mick Kalber Sender: Vanagon Mailing List From: Mick Kalber Subject: Re: Need ECU and Chip Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04CA_01C164C1.7C274A60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04CA_01C164C1.7C274A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I remember people grouping together to buy new chips. Though I've never = read or heard of anyone >saying they were especially glad they did so. = (lilley being the exception since he ratio rockers >whatever they are) Mark... I can't believe you just wrote that. I was involved in the = group purchase and did the half lilley and love it! I have said so any = number of times on this list and the syncro list. The power upgrade was = worth every penny of the price. Does it snap my head back? No. But = does it get me over that annoying powerless hump the WBX is known for... = yes. I rarely floor it anymore. I have enough power to pass. My bus = is really fun to drive now... I try not to put my foot into it, but = sometimes I just can't resist. My wife complains that I drive it like a = sports car... I tell her that it IS a sports car. I can't say enough = good things about the upgrade. In fact, I'm very surprised more people = haven't done it. Or maybe they have and are just laying low. Anybody = out there? =20 BTW, Phil... I had the 022 ECU (unknowingly) when I bought the chip. I = upgraded to the 022D... found someone on the east coast with one in very = nice shape that they sold me for $125. It has worked perfectly for = about a year now. My impression was that that was a pretty cheap price. = Robert Lilley has, or had an almost new one for sale not long ago. Mick Kalber 89 Syncro Westy "Daddeo" Tropical Visions Video, Inc. 62 Halaulani Place Hilo, Hawaii 96720 808-935-5557 808-935-0066 (fax) hotlava@interpac.net www.volcanoscapes.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Dorm=20 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Need ECU and Chip Info I remember people grouping together to buy new chips. Though I've = never read or heard of anyone saying they were especially glad they did = so. (lilley being the exception since he ratio rockers whatever they = are) >=20 >I wish I had 022 D, unfortunately, I'm only a 022. :(=20 >=20 >I'd like to start collecting my parts as described in Mr. Lilley's = parts=20 >list, and I figured the ECU and chip would be a good place to start. = Does=20 >anyone have a used 022D ECU and/or the upgrade chip for sale? I = remember=20 >last year someone bought the chip but had the wrong ECU. Let me know, = >thanks.=20 >=20 >-Phil=20 >89 Westy=20 >Utah=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_04CA_01C164C1.7C274A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>I remember people grouping together to buy new chips. Though I've = never=20 read or heard of anyone >saying they were especially glad they did = so.=20 (lilley being the exception since he ratio rockers >whatever they = are)

Mark... I can't believe you just wrote that.  I was involved in = the=20 group purchase and did the half lilley and love it!  I have said so = any=20 number of times on this list and the syncro list.  The power = upgrade was=20 worth every penny of the price.  Does it snap my head back?  = No. =20 But does it get me over that annoying powerless hump the WBX is known = for...=20 yes.  I rarely floor it anymore.  I have enough power to = pass. =20 My bus is really fun to drive now... I try not to put my foot into it, = but=20 sometimes I just can't resist.  My wife complains that I drive it = like a=20 sports car... I tell her that it IS a sports car.  I can't say = enough=20 good things about the upgrade.  In fact, I'm very surprised more = people=20 haven't done it.  Or maybe they have and are just laying low.  = Anybody=20 out there? 

BTW, Phil... I had the 022 ECU (unknowingly) when I bought the = chip.  I=20 upgraded to the 022D... found someone on the east coast with one in very = nice=20 shape that they sold me for $125.  It has worked perfectly for = about a year=20 now.  My impression was that that was a pretty cheap price.  = Robert=20 Lilley has, or had an almost new one for sale not long ago.

Mick Kalber
89 Syncro Westy "Daddeo"
Tropical Visions Video, = Inc.
62=20 Halaulani Place
Hilo, Hawaii 96720
808-935-5557
808-935-0066=20 (fax)
hotlava@interpac.net
www.volcanoscapes.com

 

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Mark Dorm=20

To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, = 2001 8:22=20 PM

Subject: Re: Need ECU and Chip = Info

I remember people grouping together to buy new chips. Though I've = never=20 read or heard of anyone saying they were especially glad they did so. = (lilley=20 being the exception since he ratio rockers whatever they are)

>

>I wish I had 022 D, unfortunately, I'm only a 022. :(=20

>=20

>I'd like to start collecting my parts as described in = Mr.=20 Lilley's parts=20

>list, and I figured the ECU and chip would be a good = place to=20 start. Does=20

>anyone have a used 022D ECU and/or the upgrade chip for = sale? I=20 remember=20

>last year someone bought the chip but had the wrong = ECU. Let me=20 know,=20

>thanks.=20

>=20

>-Phil=20

>89 Westy=20

>Utah=20

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