As a 60 = year old newbie to computers and Volkswagen vans, I glean information from all messages. = It seems to me that, for the most part, the bickering seems petty, = egocentric and totally useless to me. The folks who sell products usually include = information useful to me in addition to sales pitches.

Please keep = in mind that there are newbies like myself who can use all the help they can get. I = may be missing something about the importance of it all but I fail to see it.