It seems to me that the list = cannot be ALL THINGS to ALL PEOPLE , ALL THE TIME. I'm sure that everyone who is = subscribed, finds a few posings each day, not of interest to them, since = the list covers ALL Vanagons, diesel and gas, Westies and just plain = passenger busses.

I certainly disagree with you = that the list has become a sounding board for a select few!!!! Gosh, just look = at the different names over a period of a few days!!! It is true however = that there are some with a great deal of expertise in one or more areas, and = yes they respond often and I certainly am grateful for their knowledge on a = particular subject. I'm glad to see their names over and over, and respect their = desire to help all.

Restore the list?!!! Heck, what needs = restoring? I belong to several "Lists" and each of them goes through = periods of "flames" , corrections, positive AND negative = responses. I certainly enjoy the "open Fridays" also, though many postings = on Friday or not exactly Vanagon related.

You say you "saved" = 50+ messages relating to your bus. That's great, but are you saying that now you'd = quit the list because you now know everything about your bus? Or are you saying = you'd quit the list because others don't post messages the way you'd like to = see them post? Do you realize that you're asking others to "contain = themselves in the simple 1 thru 4, guidelines" that YOU

Childbirth? Interstates? = Bringing in import Vehicles? Would you really ban all this from the list. Are you so = stogy that you resent Ken telling us of his new baby daughter? Someday you = might want to import a Vanagon!

And while it's true that the Interstate thread has = gotten rather long and far afield, there are some interesting points made.

Don't read em! Delete em!, = Block em!, But don't quit the list only because you got your 50+ and you don't = want to hear anything else unless it pertains to your bus!

I have enjoyed the list up = until the last few weeks and I am now leaving it at least for the present time. At first I was super impressed by the = overall help and information that was available and I saved many (50+) messages = that pertain to my bus. For this I thank you who supplied them. Recently though it seems as if the = list has become a sounding board for a select few and on any subject that = they choose. I don't need to know about childbirth, interstates, out of country purchases of vehicles, etc. = Also when a message is sent with an error in it, who are any of us to = correct the sender in a short sarcastic manner, when most of us have made a = similar error in the past. Recently a young lady sent a = joke in about Penn/NJ and was flamed but several others more recently have = sent in off list messages and it seems to be OK. As I look at it = the list seems to be over run by just a few persons who find it their = duty to respond to everything that comes up whether it has a positive or = negative effect on the original message. A few things that would = help to restore the list would be 1. Post only messages that pertain = to the vehicles it was designed for. 2. If you reply, do your = homework and reply with accurate and pertinent information. 3. = Leave out the sarcasm and criticism. 4. Don't hog the bandwidth. 5. And most importantly, treat everyone equally!!! Also for those of you who can't contain = yourselves within these simple lines, maybe you need a social = list for all the other crap.

Dick & Janette Smith
Norwich, NY
KC2AOC
Retired
85 Westy Vanagon GL = "Sally Ann"
"No One May Step Twice In The Same River"