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39986910/05/0408:0532Gas tank and gas cap
39988910/05/0412:5125Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39989110/05/0410:1434Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39989810/05/0414:2521Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39990410/05/0412:0847Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39990710/05/0412:3562Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39990810/05/0412:4644Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39990910/05/0412:4433Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39991010/05/0412:4919Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39991110/05/0413:0729Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39991210/05/0416:1333Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39991510/05/0413:5170Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
39992610/05/0416:3267Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39992710/05/0419:5923Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39992810/05/0417:1445Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39993110/05/0420:2746Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39993210/05/0418:3596Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39993310/05/0420:4731Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
39993610/05/0421:0725Re: Gas tank and gas cap
39994110/05/0423:3070Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
39994210/05/0421:0596Re: Gas tank and gas cap
40126510/05/2105:2466Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40128910/05/2110:2721Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40129010/05/2107:5840Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40130010/05/2111:3121Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40139810/05/2204:1028Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40139910/05/2204:1546Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
40822710/08/2409:5226Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
40823910/08/2413:5616Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
40824210/08/2411:0749Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
Item #399869 (4 May 2010 08:05) - Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Gas tank and gas cap
MIME-Version: 1.0

But . . . every time I "fill" the gas tank (third time was Sunday
afternoon), it only takes between 8-9 gallons. We changed the gas cap as the
one that was on it didn't seem to fit correctly but we can't get the
The questions then are - why am I only getting 8-9 gallons per fill-up
(about 180-ish miles per tank)? And what can I do about a gas cap? I'm
beginning to think I don't have an original gas tank but I don't know how to
tell.

Item #399889 (4 May 2010 12:51) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
>The questions then are - why am I only getting 8-9 gallons per fill-up
>(about 180-ish miles per tank)? And what can I do about a gas cap? I'm
>beginning to think I don't have an original gas tank but I don't know how to
>tell.

Not sure what to say about the cap issue -- the cap mates with a
filler assembly that's not strictly speaking part of the tank at all.

Item #399891 (4 May 2010 10:14) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
>The questions then are - why am I only getting 8-9 gallons per fill-up
>(about 180-ish miles per tank)? And what can I do about a gas cap? I'm
>beginning to think I don't have an original gas tank but I don't know how to
>tell.

Item #399898 (4 May 2010 14:25) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Geo <ahwahneevw@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>

> But . . . every time I "fill" the gas tank (third time was Sunday
> afternoon), it only takes between 8-9 gallons.
How do you know the tank is empty or near empty? i.e. I wouldn't assume
that a gas gauge in the red is accurate. Several things, both mechanical
and electrical, can affect that gauge.

Item #399904 (4 May 2010 12:08) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>

David - It seems fine. The first gas fill-up was before he finished the
other work and same thing. The other 2 tanks were last Thursday and Sunday,
> How do you know the tank is empty or near empty? i.e. I wouldn't assume
> that a gas gauge in the red is accurate. Several things, both mechanical
> and electrical, can affect that gauge.
consistent but really, I have no idea. Is there any way I can tell for sure?
Short of actually running it out of gas, which I'd rather not do.

By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at about
21 mpg, I should be getting about 315 miles per tank. Does that sound

Item #399907 (4 May 2010 12:35) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Peter DiFalco <peter.difalco@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
In-Reply-To: <y2wd7ab470e1005041208za8ea0bf2p75deaf0e55c90ed7@mail.gmail.com>
>
> David - It seems fine. The first gas fill-up was before he finished the
> other work and same thing. The other 2 tanks were last Thursday and Sunday,
> > How do you know the tank is empty or near empty? i.e. I wouldn't assume
> > that a gas gauge in the red is accurate. Several things, both mechanical
> > and electrical, can affect that gauge.
> sure?
> Short of actually running it out of gas, which I'd rather not do.
>
> By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at
> about

Item #399908 (4 May 2010 12:46) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
> > How do you know the tank is empty or near empty? i.e. I wouldn't assume
> > that a gas gauge in the red is accurate. Several things, both mechanical
> > and electrical, can affect that gauge.
>consistent but really, I have no idea. Is there any way I can tell for sure?
>Short of actually running it out of gas, which I'd rather not do.


Mine was running out of gas at the 3/4 mark. The first time I was
just on my way out, turned around, came home and poured a gallon in &
The next time (I had to check it <g>) I was on my way to work and
drove into a gas station bucking and generally feeling like I was out
of gas at the 3/4 mark. It took 12 gallons to fill it and then it ran
great. I changed the tank and all that problem went away.

Item #399909 (4 May 2010 12:44) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: James V <chimivee@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>

> By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at about
> 21 mpg, I should be getting about 315 miles per tank. Does that sound
As has been mentioned, your gauge may be faulty. The sure way to know,
is to carry some spare fuel in a gas can and drive until you run out
of gas (caution!)... OK, perhaps a better, more conservative approach
- just see if it will hit ~250-ish miles.

What was the problem with the stock / Van-Cafe locking gas cap? Snap a
pic of the filler opening without the cap for us to see.

Item #399910 (4 May 2010 12:49) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: James V <chimivee@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>

Item #399911 (4 May 2010 13:07) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Peter DiFalco <peter.difalco@gmail.com>

Item #399912 (4 May 2010 16:13) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Geo <ahwahneevw@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>
> sure?
> Short of actually running it out of gas, which I'd rather not do.
>
> By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at
> about
Correct. Of course -- YMMV (literally). For every new-to-me car I do the
suggested thing of carrying a gallon of gas in the car and driving until the
odometer suggests I am way low on gas. With luck you will not actually run
out.
If you're really detailed-oriented you can note your miles travelled at the
various marks on the gas gauge and once you know your mileage roughly figure
what they mean.

Item #399915 (4 May 2010 13:51) - Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
In-Reply-To: <n2jd7ab470e1005041324qbfc597dcmce01318585d3eaff@mail.gmail.com>
of the red line now so I'll let it go as close to the bottom of that red
area as I dare and see what happens. I'll put the gas can in there with a
gallon or two and hope it doesn't really need it.
there too low. ;-) With little kids often in the car with me, running out of
gas is not on my list of things to do.

And because James asked - here's a picture of the gas filler opening for you
all to check out . . .

The locking gas cap simply won't stay on. It doesn't fit tight and just
comes right off with a little movement.
>
> > By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at
> about
> As has been mentioned, your gauge may be faulty. The sure way to know,
> is to carry some spare fuel in a gas can and drive until you run out
> of gas (caution!)... OK, perhaps a better, more conservative approach
> - just see if it will hit ~250-ish miles.
>
> What was the problem with the stock / Van-Cafe locking gas cap? Snap a
> pic of the filler opening without the cap for us to see.
>

Item #399926 (4 May 2010 16:32) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>
Just speculating here and it's hard to tell from the photo, but if previous
owner had a locking cap and lost the key, the PO make have had to pry the
cap off and this can ruin the filler opening so that no cap will ever fit or
lock down correctly. Both my 84's are the same filler neck as 85 (actually
> of the red line now so I'll let it go as close to the bottom of that red
> area as I dare and see what happens. I'll put the gas can in there with a
> gallon or two and hope it doesn't really need it.
> of
> gas is not on my list of things to do.
>
> And because James asked - here's a picture of the gas filler opening for
> you
>
> The locking gas cap simply won't stay on. It doesn't fit tight and just
> comes right off with a little movement.

Item #399927 (4 May 2010 19:59) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Geo <ahwahneevw@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
In-Reply-To: <v2obfb5ccc41005041632x4b9fb26fi4fbaf59e385399ad@mail.gmail.com>
> Just speculating here and it's hard to tell from the photo, but if previous
> owner had a locking cap and lost the key, the PO make have had to pry the
> cap off and this can ruin the filler opening so that no cap will ever fit
> or
I agree -- I don't like the look of what I can (and can't) see of that inner
lip which is what pulls the cap tight as you turn it. Looks like that lip
may be mooshed a bit?

Item #399928 (4 May 2010 17:14) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Geo <ahwahneevw@gmail.com>
Yes, it does look a little out of whack. But the good news is . . . I just
went and bought a new gas cap - same kind as before - and it fits perfectly.
I don't know why the other 2 we bought and tried didn't fit but this one
So, I'll see what happens with the fill up in the next few days once I've
ran the gas gauge down to the bare minimum. I'll let you all know what I
figure out (or don't figure out, LOL as the case may be).
> previous
> > owner had a locking cap and lost the key, the PO make have had to pry the
> > cap off and this can ruin the filler opening so that no cap will ever fit
> > or
> inner
> lip which is what pulls the cap tight as you turn it. Looks like that lip
> may be mooshed a bit?

Item #399931 (4 May 2010 20:27) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
>
> But . . . every time I "fill" the gas tank (third time was Sunday
> afternoon), it only takes between 8-9 gallons. We changed the gas cap as the
> one that was on it didn't seem to fit correctly but we can't get the
> The questions then are - why am I only getting 8-9 gallons per fill-up
> (about 180-ish miles per tank)? And what can I do about a gas cap? I'm
> beginning to think I don't have an original gas tank but I don't know how to
> tell.

Item #399932 (4 May 2010 18:35) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>
> of the red line now so I'll let it go as close to the bottom of that red
> area as I dare and see what happens. I'll put the gas can in there with a
> gallon or two and hope it doesn't really need it.
> of
> gas is not on my list of things to do.
>
> And because James asked - here's a picture of the gas filler opening for
> you
>
> The locking gas cap simply won't stay on. It doesn't fit tight and just
> comes right off with a little movement.
> >
> > > By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at
> > about
> > As has been mentioned, your gauge may be faulty. The sure way to know,
> > is to carry some spare fuel in a gas can and drive until you run out
> > of gas (caution!)... OK, perhaps a better, more conservative approach
> > - just see if it will hit ~250-ish miles.
> >
> > What was the problem with the stock / Van-Cafe locking gas cap? Snap a
> > pic of the filler opening without the cap for us to see.
> >

Item #399933 (4 May 2010 20:47) - Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
>
> And because James asked - here's a picture of the gas filler opening for you
> all to check out . . .
>
> The locking gas cap simply won't stay on. It doesn't fit tight and just
> comes right off with a little movement.

Looks like the receiver is pretty mucked up. Gasket appears stretched and maybe broken, and there appears to be rust or some other dirty looking material on the receiver. Maybe cleaning it would make a cap fit better, but perhaps it needs replaced. Or maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I've never known of one needing replacing, on a Vanagon or any other vehicle.

Item #399936 (4 May 2010 21:07) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com>

Item #399941 (4 May 2010 23:30) - Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: mcneely4@COX.NET
>other dirty looking material on the receiver. Maybe cleaning it
>would make a cap fit better, but perhaps it needs replaced.

flange that the three mounting screws pull up against the inside of
the bodywork -- the sealing gasket is on the cap itself. The rust on
the sealing edge around nine to two o'clock may be a sealing issue
but not a cap-retention one. The visible tang inside the fitting at
about eight o'clock definitely appears bent as others have said. The
I'd suggest to clean up the rust at the rim, and otherwise if your
cap stays on and holds pressure (your next inspection may tell you
that) to not worry further about it.
after I've been burnt to a crisp. Knowing the empty point and how
much fuel went in after you ran out, you may find a gas station with
enough leisure to allow you to fill it a gallon at a time with a

Item #399942 (4 May 2010 21:05) - Re: Gas tank and gas cap
 From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas tank and gas cap
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@gmail.com>

i used to work at a gas station
that photo was hot ... made me very excited ...
> of the red line now so I'll let it go as close to the bottom of that red
> area as I dare and see what happens. I'll put the gas can in there with a
> gallon or two and hope it doesn't really need it.
> of
> gas is not on my list of things to do.
>
> And because James asked - here's a picture of the gas filler opening for
> you
>
> The locking gas cap simply won't stay on. It doesn't fit tight and just
> comes right off with a little movement.
> >
> > > By my calculations for a standard Vanagon gas tank of 15.9 gallons, at
> > about
> > As has been mentioned, your gauge may be faulty. The sure way to know,
> > is to carry some spare fuel in a gas can and drive until you run out
> > of gas (caution!)... OK, perhaps a better, more conservative approach
> > - just see if it will hit ~250-ish miles.
> >
> > What was the problem with the stock / Van-Cafe locking gas cap? Snap a
> > pic of the filler opening without the cap for us to see.
> >

Item #401265 (21 May 2010 05:24) - Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
Mime-Version: 1.0

Got a BIG A locking gas cap in a box of auction stuff a month or so
ago and since Big A was bought out by Car Quest, it only seemed

35004 gas caps fits:

Item #401289 (21 May 2010 10:27) - Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
Comments: To: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>

*If* you believe them. Try buying a Vanagon gas cap at a
FLAPS. NAPA will order one for you for $45 or so, but the rest* will

Item #401290 (21 May 2010 07:58) - Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
In-Reply-To: <4bf6989a.27f98e0a.3b04.38a6@mx.google.com>
enough and even though you think you might have gotten it on there ok, it
will fall off somewhere on the highway between the gas station and home.

none of the locking ones worked) is 6808 and it's called a Murray Ultra Fuel
Cap.

>
> *If* you believe them. Try buying a Vanagon gas cap at a
> FLAPS. NAPA will order one for you for $45 or so, but the rest* will

Item #401300 (21 May 2010 11:31) - Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
Comments: To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
>none of the locking ones worked) is 6808 and it's called a Murray Ultra Fuel
>Cap.
>

Item #401398 (22 May 2010 04:10) - Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
Comments: To: David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net>

This one is a pretty generic metal cap with the two jaws at 180 to
each other that grab the inner lip of the filler neck. I believe I
>
>*If* you believe them. Try buying a Vanagon gas cap at a
>FLAPS. NAPA will order one for you for $45 or so, but the rest*

Item #401399 (22 May 2010 04:15) - Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
 From: Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
Subject: Re: Friday locking gas cap for many vehicles FS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilxpVdvmeE065vptCWZnzZ6OkzLpVgwfCuQOtIQ@mail.gmail.c om>
>enough and even though you think you might have gotten it on there ok, it
>will fall off somewhere on the highway between the gas station and home.
>
>none of the locking ones worked) is 6808 and it's called a Murray Ultra Fuel
>Cap.
>
> >
> > *If* you believe them. Try buying a Vanagon gas cap at a
> > FLAPS. NAPA will order one for you for $45 or so, but the rest* will

Item #408227 (24 Aug 2010 09:52) - Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
 From: B Feddish <uprightbassghost@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap
gasket)

I need a new one of those rubber tubes that are on the end of the gas tank =
tube. It looks simular to this http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnum=
ber=251201119D but it is wider and has 2 flaps inside that keep the gas f=
rom flowing upward. Not sure of the exact name. I have an 83.5 with the me=
Also, when I topped off the oil this morning a small rubber gasket fell o=
ut of the cap and appaered to disapear into the bumper or somewhere. I need=
a new one of these too.

Item #408239 (24 Aug 2010 13:56) - Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
 From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap
gasket)
i have the 88-'91 style filler neck w/ the float ball at the end for sale.
..keeps gas from spewing out the side of your van when you fill it up..fits
all 2wd vanagons..

Item #408242 (24 Aug 2010 11:07) - Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap gasket)
 From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Looking for rubber filler tube neck for gas tank (and oil cap
gasket)

Oil Cap Gasket is 070 115 331. You can get these from the dealer (prolly
special order) or try Bus Depot:
>
> I need a new one of those rubber tubes that are on the end of the gas tank
> tube. It looks simular to this
> http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber%1201119D but it is wider
> and has 2 flaps inside that keep the gas from flowing upward. Not sure of
> the exact name. I have an 83.5 with the metal filler tube. Any help would
> Also, when I topped off the oil this morning a small rubber gasket fell out
> of the cap and appaered to disapear into the bumper or somewhere. I need a
> new one of these too.

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