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Date:         Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:17:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Nice set of Vanagon Alloys on Ebay
Comments: To: motorbruce@hotmail.com
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If EBay isn't for getting bargains, why does just about every EBay post on this list, mention that the price is really cheap? Of course it won't stay really cheap when you let 1200 of your closest friends in on the secret.

You use EBay for your reasons, I'll use it for mine. Certainly my concern has nothing to do with MAXIMIZING the profit a seller makes. That is where you are cornfused. Part of being an Ebay buyer is being able to find that little nugget. And yes, getting it for 1/2 or less what I would pay for it anywhere else. If I wanted to pay market value, I would just go and pay it. Send Ken @ Vanagain 150 bucks a piece for slightly dinged seconds type wheels. No problem with that, except I won't. I'll wait till I find an EBay auction that you nor anybody else on the list doesn't find and report to all 1200 of our friends and buy the set for the 150 bucks. That's the kinda guy I am. A cheap one.

This thread is getting old, I suspect we should call it a draw, eh?

tim the miser in san jose

>From: "Bruce Nadig" <motorbruce@hotmail.com> >To: killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM >Subject: Re: Nice set of Vanagon Alloys on Ebay >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:18:35 -0600 > > > >Aristotle, > >I have to disagree with you. It is not only the seller who benefits when >news of an auction is spread. Hypothetically, if I were to bid on these >wheels and I became the winning bidder I certainly would be benefiting. As >I said in an earlier post, most of us don't have an unlimited amount of >time to constantly be looking for anything and everything that might be of >interest to us on eBay. Sharing knowledge and information is good. We are a >community and we help each other out. > >Auctions, including eBay auctions, are not about 'getting bargains.' An >auction is a mechanism to put buyers and sellers together and determine the >fair market value for an item. The market value for an item is the >intersection of the highest price a buyer (and it only takes a single >buyer) is willing to spend, and the lowest price a seller is willing to >sell. If the seller is asking too much money, he/she has priced themselves >above what the market will bear. > >Auctions are all about getting top dollar for sellers. While you can find >bargains at auctions, be they eBay auctions or Sotheby's auctions, the >auction format is intended to maximize revenue for the seller. > >This current high bidder in the auction in questions shouldn't be upset >with the original post. When he placed his bid he declared the maximum >amount of money he would happily spend to acquire that set of wheels. If >the price goes above that he is no worse off. He gets to keep all of his >money, he learns what the current market value of those wheels so that his >expectations can be set for his next purchase, and he can go on his way >looking for another set of wheels, be they on eBay or elsewhere. > >Bruce > > > > >>From: Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM> >>Reply-To: Aristotle Sagan <killer_jupiter@HOTMAIL.COM> >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Re: Nice set of Vanagon Alloys on Ebay >>Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:21:56 -0800 >> >>Jason, >>No mistaking anybody's intentions. It's precisely your attitude that >>precludes anyone getting any bargains on EBay anymore. You think you are >>doing us a favor but letting 1200 or so possible interested parties in on >>your 'find' only helps one person, the seller. >> >>As far as sniping, this is a time limit AUCTION. Using a sniping program >>isn't what I call good sportsmanship, but obviously I am in the minority >>in >>this den of snipers. And no, I have no issues with EBay, just occasionally >>EBayers. >> >>Happy New Year. >> >>tim in san jose (home of EBay) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>I think you mistake good intentions for some other motive here. I was >>>just >>>trying to be nice. I am a new member to the Westy world and this listing >>>and I guess I am unaware of the "sniper tactics" which you speak?? >>>Chill out. >>> >>>Obviously you have some issues with ebay. >>> >>>Merry Christmas >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >

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