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Date:         Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:53:59 -0600
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: If stuck in snow pull tab to open (gotta see this)
Comments: To: jimt <camper@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
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I think that you'll find elongated holes in the modular frame under those cars. The slot is to catch water so the frame will rust out within ten years and to hold tie down chains in while transporting on tow trucks. If you give those hooks a good "Jerk" it'll rip that 18 gauge frame wide open. In this case it appears that the situation got out of hand pretty quick because, well! We had plenty of Jerks.

Stan Wilder Engine Ceramics 214-352-4931 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jimt" <camper@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:05 PM Subject: Re: If stuck in snow pull tab to open (gotta see this)

Went back and forth on that trying to figure out what they were fastened to. When you look at the section left on the vehicle it is definitely frame member which should have meant the tie down point. Yet when you look a the bumper section you see what appears to be a tie down point but definitely is not strong enough. Is suspect that the vehicle had bogged into and packed in solid. I would not have attempted to pull that vehicle out. I would have been jacking and digging first. Spent to many years in frozen climates to make that mistake. Here in balmy colorado we are supposed to hit 2 degrees tomorrow. I think somebody sent minnesota weater down here.


On 12/22/04 4:01 PM, "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM> wrote:

> Unbelievable. There were, what, 5 guys standing around and they couldn't get > that little POS off of that little hump of snow? When I was in 9th grade a > few of us (five or six) got full of ourselves and 'rearranged' two teacher's > cars; picked one up and flipped it round the other way where he was parallel > parked, and put another up on the sidewalk- small cars like that... > If there was a 'Darwin Award' for car owners, these numbnuts would get at > least an honorable mention. (Can I say numbnuts?) > Maybe it's 'cause I'm in a bad mood (nah), but I got no sympathy for these

> morons. Jeez. In fact, I think watching that made me feel a little better. > : ) > > Cya, > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug in Calif" <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:46 PM > Subject: If stuck in snow pull tab to open (gotta see this) > > > Well, they dont make em like they used to. > > Kind of makes you feel a bit more warm and fuzzy riding around in your (for > the most part) all steel with little plastic, (well constructed) vanagon. > > Doug > > > >

........................................ jimt Planned insanity is best. Remember that sanity is optional. (tech info)

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