Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:03:03 -0700
Reply-To: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Roger Whittaker <rogerwhitt1@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: for those who use wireless on the road ... opps who knew
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dear all surfers
i think i am being unclear about intent of my posting
the point is if you are doing something that falls under the guise of
suspicious
in how a law enforcement official feels the situation is unfolding ...
as with all dealings with law enforcement ...
yes sir no sir three bags full sir is best when one is outside the realm
such as i would be as a canadian in usa or an american in canada
crossing the Canadian USA border is one of those occasions when one is
between realms and in a hinter land where the usual laws apply with a
different template
having a laptop with ripped stuff or a "wireless" booster or what ever is
simply one more reason to look further ...
or if in texas or someplace with anti wireless surfing laws ... one is in
their westie
and a cop who has already decided that westie owners are hippies with left
hand cigarettes ...
if said law enforcement person can not find a suitable reason to claim cause
...
a laptop surfer (and all of the paranoid suspicion that are part and
parcel with that) is sufficient ...
and yes you may beat the rap ... you may even be 100% right all the time ...
but you will have already been denied entry into the country ... lost
computer and likely van ...
and will spend a small fortune fighting the bum rap ...
the purpose in my sharing of this information is to help us as a community
of travelers become more savvy so when we arrive at the border or are
visiting outside our native realm we will make our own journey more
respectful and worthwhile ..
chewing gum in singapore ... so i hear is against the law ... as is long
hair ...
so if i ever go there i will cut my hair and not chew gum in public ...
that way i will avoid the possibility of being caned...
thank you for listening /reading ...
those who missed the original link ...
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/downloads/home/dl_10_laws_computer.pdf
yours
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:50 AM, JP <jpbeauch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank,
>
> I'm an ex lawyer (government prosecutor) and if caught I would argue that
> an
> open wireless is not "a computer networks" Furthermore I would argue that
> the intention of the legislator that passed the law was not to prohibit
> wireless "stealing" but was to prevent people from trying to hack into *
> computers* net woks by all means including wifi access. If you use and
> Internet access point to simply browse the Internet with no arm, you could
> defend yourself very easily from such accusation. Think about it! if the
> legislator intention was to prohibit wifi "stealing" it would have been
> easy
> to wrote the law accordingly. The fact that he didn't plays on the citizens
> side.
>
> Oh and since the arrest in 2007 they have been some developments :
>
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080323-bill-criminalizing-wifi-leeching-shot-down-and-rightly-so.html
>
>
> JP
>
>
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> -----------------------------------------
>
> WELL, that's pretty screwed up BECAUSE Texas offers free WiFi Internet
> service in it's own Rest Stops with Tourist info centres ! You do not
> have
> to go
> in and get permission. We used them coming back from Mexico this past
> Spring. So they are on both sides of the fence ??????? More screwed up
> laws by
> screwed up bureaucrats !!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank Condelli
> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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